Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jan 16, 2017 12:39pm
And it's probably just as accurate now as it was then: over-the-top hyperbole said by a person with nothing other than over-the-top hyperbole to fall back upon.QuakerOats;1833058 wrote:I have that trademarked from about 7 years ago
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Jan 16, 2017 5:00pm
Going to the inauguration?sleeper;1833047 wrote:Hail Trump!
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 16, 2017 5:52pm
No.QuakerOats;1833113 wrote:Going to the inauguration?
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Jan 16, 2017 8:48pm
I like the fact that trump is not going to rely on the major press in this country. CNN, cbs, ABC etc... Are all fake news. He will be using bloggers and Twitter.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jan 16, 2017 9:50pm
That is LITERALLY the worst thing about Trump....so far. That is a horrible turn for this country with respect to transparency from the POTUS and a free & independent press. He's basically proposing to use Twitter to disseminate his state-run propaganda.Spock;1833133 wrote:I like the fact that trump is not going to rely on the major press in this country. CNN, cbs, ABC etc... Are all fake news. He will be using bloggers and Twitter.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 16, 2017 10:37pm
GM to invest another billion into US manufacturing.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jan 16, 2017 11:12pm
Did Obama take credit for that yet?bases_loaded;1833149 wrote:GM to invest another billion into US manufacturing.
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Jan 17, 2017 1:16am
So the POTUS is going to use new media outlets to push state run propaganda outside of what we are accustomed to in the formal press briefings by the propaganda minister himself AKA the press secretary. You can not be more transparent than the POTUS's words himself. Count me in that Twitter rants are beneath the office. Trump has used them throughout the campaign and the free and independent press has ripped him over them yet he is the POTUS elect.gut;1833146 wrote:That is LITERALLY the worst thing about Trump....so far. That is a horrible turn for this country with respect to transparency from the POTUS and a free & independent press. He's basically proposing to use Twitter to disseminate his state-run propaganda.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 17, 2017 5:28am
He's too busy saturating bridges with lighter fluid. His minions will make sure he gets credit for everything good the next 7 1/2 years.gut;1833150 wrote:Did Obama take credit for that yet?
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Jan 17, 2017 7:14am
Hopefully it helps them stop building such shitty vehicles.bases_loaded;1833149 wrote:GM to invest another billion into US manufacturing.
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Spock
Posts: 2,853
Jan 17, 2017 10:26am
Propaganda? Or maybe the untwisted truth. The main stream media is literally fake news. They put the anti right slant on everything.
Why let them put words in your mouth? Trump can bypass the media to get potus info out there. It can't be worse then colluding with the media like Obama did
Why let them put words in your mouth? Trump can bypass the media to get potus info out there. It can't be worse then colluding with the media like Obama did
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Jan 17, 2017 10:44am
"...free & independent..." so long as they report what they want to report, and with a liberal slantgut;1833146 wrote:That is LITERALLY the worst thing about Trump....so far. That is a horrible turn for this country with respect to transparency from the POTUS and a free & independent press. He's basically proposing to use Twitter to disseminate his state-run propaganda.
The press abdicated their responsibility years ago; it will take a lot of rehabilitation to win back their objectivity and role of being the watchdog of (BIG) government.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Jan 17, 2017 10:45am
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/boom-trump-eyes-10-spending-cuts-20-slash-of-federal-workers/article/2612037
Change we can really believe in ....
Change we can really believe in ....
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Jan 17, 2017 10:50am
There we agree. Still, I'm a little concerned about an attack on the freedom of the press.QuakerOats;1833175 wrote:"...free & independent..." so long as they report what they want to report, and with a liberal slant
The press abdicated their responsibility years ago; it will take a lot of rehabilitation to win back their objectivity and role of being the watchdog of (BIG) government.
Soooo that will do nothing.QuakerOats;1833176 wrote:http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/boom-trump-eyes-10-spending-cuts-20-slash-of-federal-workers/article/2612037
Change we can really believe in ....
DOD will increase and the cuts are not part of the mandatory spending. That means you are only cutting at the margins and really less than 5% of the annual budget.Also this would largely by the FY19 budget as the FY18 is largely written already.
Cool story bro.
If you are really serious about shrinking Government, talk to me when DOD and all the entitlements are on the table.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 17, 2017 11:17am
This is in addition to the $2.9B investment they made last year, which you ignored entirely because it doesn't fit your bubble view of reality.bases_loaded;1833149 wrote:GM to invest another billion into US manufacturing.
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bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 17, 2017 11:41am
sleeper;1833182 wrote:This is in addition to the $2.9B investment they made last year, which you ignored entirely because it doesn't fit your bubble view of reality.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Jan 17, 2017 11:49am
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/17/ads-two-dozen-cities-offer-protesters-2500-agitate/
Rent-a-mob work heating up. I hope the agitator organizations are issuing 1099's per IRS guidelines.
Rent-a-mob work heating up. I hope the agitator organizations are issuing 1099's per IRS guidelines.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Jan 17, 2017 11:51am
ptown_trojans_1;1833177 wrote:There we agree. Still, I'm a little concerned about an attack on the freedom of the press.
If you are really serious about shrinking Government, talk to me when DOD and all the entitlements are on the table.
No one is attacking the freedom of the press; many are attacking the press' radical liberal bias.
And yes, entitlements should be on the table, along with everything else, including the sale of federal assets to pay down the national debt.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Jan 17, 2017 11:55am
Yet. No one is attacking them yet. Given his rhetoric, I could see that changing.QuakerOats;1833188 wrote:No one is attacking the freedom of the press; many are attacking the press' radical liberal bias.
And yes, entitlements should be on the table, along with everything else, including the sale of federal assets to pay down the national debt.
Well, Trump does not agree that entitlements should be on the table and the Rs in Congress disagree on selling federal land, especially old and under used DOD lands.
So, I don't expand any real changes at all on that front.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Jan 17, 2017 11:56am
Further, regarding federal spending; in the 4 years before the financial crisis we spent $2.7 trillion annually. In '09 we decided to spend an extra $800 billion on TARP etc.... as a one-time outlay to 'help the economy'. However, this extra $800 billion never went away, and in the 6 years following the crisis we have spent $3.5 trillion annually on average.
Can anyone please tell me where that extra $800 billion is going, every year, year after year? That is a massive 30% increase in spending that never went away ---- what the hell!!!
Can anyone please tell me where that extra $800 billion is going, every year, year after year? That is a massive 30% increase in spending that never went away ---- what the hell!!!
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jan 17, 2017 12:15pm
For me, the issue is more that he simply uses Twitter like a middle-school girl who just got told all her "friends" laugh at her behind her back, where it's less of a buffer to prevent his ideas from being twisted by media and more a pulpit where he can yell at anyone he doesn't like because he's too thin-skinned to be able to handle any criticism and too concerned about looking "tough" to let anything slide. It'd be a lot easier for me to consistently stay in "wait and see; might not be that bad" mode if he could simply act like an actual professional with any sort of consistency, as opposed to the premise for a WACKY THURSDAY NIGHT SITCOM.gut;1833146 wrote:That is LITERALLY the worst thing about Trump....so far. That is a horrible turn for this country with respect to transparency from the POTUS and a free & independent press. He's basically proposing to use Twitter to disseminate his state-run propaganda.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Jan 17, 2017 12:15pm
Quick Google searchQuakerOats;1833191 wrote:Further, regarding federal spending; in the 4 years before the financial crisis we spent $2.7 trillion annually. In '09 we decided to spend an extra $800 billion on TARP etc.... as a one-time outlay to 'help the economy'. However, this extra $800 billion never went away, and in the 6 years following the crisis we have spent $3.5 trillion annually on average.
Can anyone please tell me where that extra $800 billion is going, every year, year after year? That is a massive 30% increase in spending that never went away ---- what the hell!!!
https://www.treasury.gov/initiatives/financial-stability/reports/pages/default.aspx
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 17, 2017 12:50pm
So no acknowledgement of the nearly triple investment from GM during Obama's Presidency?bases_loaded;1833185 wrote:
Your bias is showing.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 17, 2017 12:54pm
Donald Trump's spending plan is an extra $5.3 trillion over the next 10 years. You voted for BIG GOVERNMENT.QuakerOats;1833191 wrote:Further, regarding federal spending; in the 4 years before the financial crisis we spent $2.7 trillion annually. In '09 we decided to spend an extra $800 billion on TARP etc.... as a one-time outlay to 'help the economy'. However, this extra $800 billion never went away, and in the 6 years following the crisis we have spent $3.5 trillion annually on average.
Can anyone please tell me where that extra $800 billion is going, every year, year after year? That is a massive 30% increase in spending that never went away ---- what the hell!!!
Own it.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jan 17, 2017 1:25pm
I didn't vote for him but I'd be happy to own it s long as the increased spending is for military and defense purposes.