Disgusted with Trump administration - Part I

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May 11, 2017 5:46pm
gut;1852585 wrote:Or it was just out-of-date and boring....nothing incriminating like the corrupt Blabbermouthshultz DNC. Honestly, are ANY women in the DNC not bat-shit crazy?
Good to know you are now supporting leaks after earlier crying about the leaks.

Careful, your Fox News is showing.
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May 11, 2017 5:47pm
superman;1852584 wrote:Sleeper has bashed Republicans for caring more about the source of Trump's leaks than what those leaks revealed. He continues to put party over country. That is traitorous and treasonous
I bash lefties too. I'm a moderate and the fact that everyone here thinks I'm an SJW liberal further my point that you are brainwashed right wing extremists.
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May 11, 2017 5:56pm
sleeper;1852588 wrote:I bash lefties too. I'm a moderate and the fact that everyone here thinks I'm an SJW liberal further my point that you are brainwashed right wing extremists.
No one thinks you're a SJW liberal. Everyone just thinks your new shtick is stupid.
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May 11, 2017 5:59pm
fish82;1852591 wrote:No one thinks you're a SJW liberal. Everyone just thinks your new shtick is stupid.
Let me know when you are done crying. Sorry your life is so boring.
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May 11, 2017 6:03pm
sleeper;1852592 wrote:Let me know when you are done crying. Sorry your life is so boring.
Now you're mad.

Sorry, that wasn't my intent.
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May 11, 2017 6:05pm
sleeper;1852588 wrote:I bash lefties too. I'm a moderate and the fact that everyone here thinks I'm an SJW liberal further my point that you are brainwashed right wing extremists.
If this were true, you'd be more upset about what was in the emails than you are about the progressive lie that Russia released the emails.
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May 11, 2017 6:07pm
superman;1852594 wrote:If this were true, you'd be more upset about what was in the emails than you are about the progressive lie that Russia released the emails.
I was upset with what was in the emails. Still wasn't enough to elect the corrupt idiot Donald Trump.
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May 11, 2017 6:07pm
fish82;1852593 wrote:Now you're mad.

Sorry, that wasn't my intent.
Not mad, just tired of dealing with ignorant trash.
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May 11, 2017 6:09pm
sleeper;1852596 wrote:Not mad
Obviously.:laugh:
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May 11, 2017 7:46pm
FatHobbit;1852556 wrote:I find it amusing that people still are concerned with Russian hackers influencing the election. When the media says influencing the election, what they really mean is exposing Hillary's private server that she used to improperly handle classified information, and then she obstructed justice by deleting the emails after a subpoena was issued that those emails be handed over.

Also, don't forget the emails that detailed how the democratic party fucked Bernie and how the dnc chairman gave Hillary the questions prior to the debate.

But yeah, let's just call that interfering with the election.
A foreign government hacked a political party in the U.S. and then used another overseas source to post the emails. Those emails, along with a bunch of other factors, was why Clinton lost. But, the ends do not justify the means. The fact that a foreign government hacked into a U.S. political party needs to be examined and explored to the fullest extent. That includes if there were any ties in the U.S. that knew of the hacking and dissemination of the information.

This applies not only to the Russia/ Clinton emails, but also if any future country, saying China or North Korea, hacks into any other political party.

It should remain a story and needs to be fully investigated until we figure out how exactly it happened.
FatHobbit;1852558 wrote:Like when Hillary tried to pretend the Benghazi attack was due to a YouTube video? And then when questioned about it said "at this point, what difference does it make?"

Why does the "unbiased" media ignore that?
I'm confused. So, if that was bad, what Trump said today and what the WH said, was that also bad as well?
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May 11, 2017 7:49pm
like_that;1852573 wrote:How about Trump contradicting the WH's spin on Comey's firing? LOL, he simply can't shut the fuck up.
I can guess someone in the White House said, "Oh for fuck's sake!" when they heard him today. Reading into the Post stories and so many of the insider accounts, it sounds like Trump is like a freaking kid, obsessed with cable news and being popular.
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May 11, 2017 8:41pm
sleeper;1852588 wrote:I bash lefties too. I'm a moderate and the fact that everyone here thinks I'm an SJW liberal further my point that you are brainwashed right wing extremists.
You're a moderate by whose standards?

Everyone thinks he's moderate and reasonable. :rolleyes:
sleeper;1852595 wrote:I was upset with what was in the emails. Still wasn't enough to elect the corrupt idiot Donald Trump.
What was in the emails wasn't a non-starter, then, was it?
ptown_trojans_1;1852607 wrote:I can guess someone in the White House said, "Oh for fuck's sake!" when they heard him today. Reading into the Post stories and so many of the insider accounts, it sounds like Trump is like a freaking kid, obsessed with cable news and being popular.
I can absolutely imagine this happening. I can see the dude rubbing the arch of his nose or rubbing his eyes in exasperation as he says it.

I used to chuckle at the thought of Bush needing "handlers," but Baron Cheeto von Tinyhands definitely needs handlers. The man is a cartoon.
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May 11, 2017 9:45pm
It would be a challenging job.
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May 11, 2017 9:58pm
ptown_trojans_1;1852606 wrote:A foreign government hacked a political party in the U.S. and then used another overseas source to post the emails.


Isn't that the reason they aren't supposed to have classified info on personal servers? So it's not easily hackable?
ptown_trojans_1;1852606 wrote: It should remain a story and needs to be fully investigated until we figure out how exactly it happened.


It happened because Clinton used an insecure server, unless I'm misunderstanding. I'm also not certain that wikeleaks or anyone ever confirmed "Russian hackers" as the source.
ptown_trojans_1;1852606 wrote: I'm confused. So, if that was bad, what Trump said today and what the WH said, was that also bad as well?
I don't know what Trump said today, but he is a train wreck in general, so i imagine it was.
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May 11, 2017 9:59pm
ptown_trojans_1;1852607 wrote:I can guess someone in the White House said, "Oh for fuck's sake!" when they heard him today. Reading into the Post stories and so many of the insider accounts, it sounds like Trump is like a freaking kid, obsessed with cable news and being popular.
I imagine Spicer feels like that multiple times per day. Lol turn out the lights...
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May 11, 2017 10:23pm
FatHobbit;1852626 wrote:Isn't that the reason they aren't supposed to have classified info on personal servers? So it's not easily hackable?



It happened because Clinton used an insecure server, unless I'm misunderstanding. I'm also not certain that wikeleaks or anyone ever confirmed "Russian hackers" as the source.



I don't know what Trump said today, but he is a train wreck in general, so i imagine it was.
Two different things. Clinton's servers were not hacked. It was the DNC and one member of her campaign that were hacked. Podesta and then other servers from the DNC were hacked by the Russians. These were reportedly secured servers, and the Russians got into Podesta by a dumb move by him.

Also, our intelligence officials have testified with pretty good confidence that the Russians passed off the information to Wikileaks.
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May 11, 2017 11:17pm
ptown_trojans_1;1852631 wrote:Two different things. Clinton's servers were not hacked. It was the DNC and one member of her campaign that were hacked. Podesta and then other servers from the DNC were hacked by the Russians. These were reportedly secured servers, and the Russians got into Podesta by a dumb move by him.

Also, our intelligence officials have testified with pretty good confidence that the Russians passed off the information to Wikileaks.
Allegedly hacked by the Russians. No proof. Wikileaks said it was an inside leak. Seth Rich died for something and he wasn't robbed.
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May 12, 2017 3:46am
Spock;1852404 wrote:I am getting sick of this Russia scandal that the left wing media spends 25 hours a day on. From what I understand, there is no evidence of anything.
lol

Just admit you don't understand.
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May 12, 2017 10:21am
And Trump threatened Comey this morning on Twitter:
James Comey better hope that there are no "tapes" of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/863007411132649473


Good to know the GOP continues to condone and support our President and his actions.
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May 12, 2017 10:23am
Trump went straight off the rails with like 6 tweets this morning. He's a jackass


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May 12, 2017 10:28am
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/12/us/politics/trump-threatens-retaliation-against-comey-warns-he-may-cancel-press-briefings.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39899542
http://www.cleveland.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/05/president_trump_warns_comey_be.html
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/12/trump-threatens-to-cancel-press-briefings-warns-comey-over-leaks.html

Here, I provided several different links on the same news so nobody gets butt hurt over the source. Trump is getting completely rattled about the firing of Comey. If he did STFU'd for a week it would all go away to a different news cycle. If he keeps getting rattled like this, I am hopping the impeachment or resignation bandwagon.
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May 12, 2017 10:28am
sleeper;1852682 wrote:And Trump threatened Comey this morning on Twitter:



https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/863007411132649473


Good to know the GOP continues to condone and support our President and his actions.
They would be smart and sit down with him to convince him to resign.
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May 12, 2017 10:42am
like_that;1852685 wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/12/us/politics/trump-threatens-retaliation-against-comey-warns-he-may-cancel-press-briefings.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39899542
http://www.cleveland.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/05/president_trump_warns_comey_be.html
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/12/trump-threatens-to-cancel-press-briefings-warns-comey-over-leaks.html

Here, I provided several different links on the same news so nobody gets butt hurt over the source. Trump is getting completely rattled about the firing of Comey. If he did STFU'd for a week it would all go away to a different news cycle. If he keeps getting rattled like this, I am hopping the impeachment or resignation bandwagon.
All Fake News; the President said so!
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May 12, 2017 10:49am
like_that;1852686 wrote:They would be smart and sit down with him to convince him to resign.
President Pence incoming. I may heavily disagree with Pence policy wise but at least I can sleep at night knowing Democracy and the future of this country is in stable hands.
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May 12, 2017 10:55am
iclfan2;1852683 wrote:Trump went straight off the rails with like 6 tweets this morning. He's a jackass


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In the grand scheme of things, I probably wouldn't have that much of an issue with Trump if he had the capacity to come off as remotely professional at doing his job. Instead, we have an adult with the emotional maturity of a spoiled 3rd grader who goes ballistic any time anyone says anything that's not in line with what he wants to hear. No impulse control whatsoever. Like LT said, a lot of shit would just go away if he kept quiet and took more of a "decisions were made; we're moving on" attitude. Instead he HAS to pick fights with the guy he fired, everyone who reports anything that didn't come directly from him and so on.

But such is life in an atmosphere where it seems that the main people wanting to be president are political lifers looking to be #1 and secure their family's position as a true DC powerbroker AND rich entertainers looking to appease their vanity. We could probably get more quality by electing a homeless junkie.