like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 12, 2017 4:20pm
And this was not your reasoning at the time. Keep being a fraud liar though.sleeper;1852735 wrote:Because I was okay with either Obama or Romney winning. Neither of them were a threat to Democracy.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
May 12, 2017 4:44pm
There's only like 11 states where your vote might matter. Every other state is basically whether you endorse the Dem/Repub nominee - and that's why I voted for Gary Johnson.like_that;1852738 wrote:Didn't you vote in the GOP primary?
Although I've been laughing since election night and I'm still laughing. The tech sites have been the best lately. And everyone is whining about the GOP health plan while Obamacare implodes all around them.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 12, 2017 7:03pm
I'm well aware, I'm just poking flaws in Sleeper's idiotic logic.gut;1852741 wrote:There's only like 11 states where your vote might matter. Every other state is basically whether you endorse the Dem/Repub nominee - and that's why I voted for Gary Johnson.
Although I've been laughing since election night and I'm still laughing. The tech sites have been the best lately. And everyone is whining about the GOP health plan while Obamacare implodes all around them.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
May 12, 2017 7:45pm
Gosh a ruddies, deja vu all over again. Its 1973. Shades of the Saturday Night massacre, a President firing an official investigating him. And now tapes. Countdown to impeachment.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 12, 2017 8:23pm
No. I am not a registered Republican or Democrat.like_that;1852738 wrote:Didn't you vote in the GOP primary?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 12, 2017 8:23pm
Link?like_that;1852739 wrote:And this was not your reasoning at the time. Keep being a fraud liar though.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 12, 2017 8:25pm
The country likes Obamacare that's why the GOP healthcare plan is going nowhere. It was a PR move and you bought it!gut;1852741 wrote:There's only like 11 states where your vote might matter. Every other state is basically whether you endorse the Dem/Repub nominee - and that's why I voted for Gary Johnson.
Although I've been laughing since election night and I'm still laughing. The tech sites have been the best lately. And everyone is whining about the GOP health plan while Obamacare implodes all around them.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
May 12, 2017 9:08pm
Obamakare did not make healthcare affordable. Deductibles and premiums are still going up.sleeper;1852752 wrote:The country likes Obamacare
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 12, 2017 9:20pm
It wasn't affordable before Obamacare either. We need single payer healthcare if you actually care about cost.FatHobbit;1852754 wrote:Obamakare did not make healthcare affordable. Deductibles and premiums are still going up.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
May 13, 2017 4:46am
always a lie....now and beforesleeper;1852752 wrote:The country likes Obamacare that's why the GOP healthcare plan is going nowhere.
They have healthcare (homer simpson WOOHOO!)....they just can't afford the copay or out-of-pocket. The Dems gave people insurance they couldn't afford to actually use, and a lot of people who should know better are jerking off to that.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 13, 2017 8:13am
I will wait on your better plan.gut;1852775 wrote:always a lie....now and before
They have healthcare (homer simpson WOOHOO!)....they just can't afford the copay or out-of-pocket. The Dems gave people insurance they couldn't afford to actually use, and a lot of people who should know better are jerking off to that.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
May 13, 2017 9:05am
It was better before....back when we didn't pretend to insure people with insurance they couldn't afford.sleeper;1852784 wrote:I will wait on your better plan.
That was easy. Next question.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 13, 2017 10:02am
It was better before until you got sick. Then insurance companies would deny you coverage until you went bankrupt or died.gut;1852786 wrote:It was better before....back when we didn't pretend to insure people with insurance they couldn't afford.
That was easy. Next question.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
May 13, 2017 10:06am
You're fucking high.sleeper;1852752 wrote:The country likes Obamacare that's why the GOP healthcare plan is going nowhere.
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ppaw1999
Posts: 344
May 13, 2017 10:10am
LOL Ms. Center. All I can do is picture Quaker Oats head exploding as he listens to the "Trumping the World" podcast.:laugh:CenterBHSFan;1852718 wrote:Sam Harris > Cuban
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 13, 2017 10:10am
iclfan2;1852791 wrote:You're fucking high.
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http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/02/23/support-for-2010-health-care-law-reaches-new-high/
From February 2017. Facts don't care about your feelings. This is not Fox News; this is reality.Currently, 54% approve of the health care law passed seven years ago by Barack Obama and Congress, while 43% disapprove, according to a national Pew Research Center survey conducted Feb. 7-12 among 1,503 adults.
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superman
Posts: 3,582
May 13, 2017 10:16am
If there is anything we've learned this year?
Trust the polls.
Trust the polls.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 13, 2017 10:18am
Yes let's throw out centuries of statistical sampling methodology because some weren't right in 2016.superman;1852794 wrote:If there is anything we've learned this year?
Trust the polls.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
May 13, 2017 10:26am
50% approval isn't the country. And 50% are poor and don't pay taxes, I wonder if there is a correlation.
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sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 13, 2017 10:30am
It's 54% and that's the majority of the country. What do taxes have to do with this?iclfan2;1852797 wrote:50% approval isn't the country. And 50% are poor and don't pay taxes, I wonder if there is a correlation.
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Facts don't care about your feelings.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
May 13, 2017 10:30am
Also, in November 42 approved and 53 disapproved. Sounds like some butt hurt over Trump. Additionally, only 26% would keep it as is. http://www.gallup.com/poll/207671/affordable-care-act-gains-majority-approval-first-time.aspx
Polls on something like this don't even make sense bc most people with jobs were barely affected by this other than maybe higher premiums. Why would they have a strong opinion on for or against if they didn't have to use it or pay the extremely high premiums?
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Polls on something like this don't even make sense bc most people with jobs were barely affected by this other than maybe higher premiums. Why would they have a strong opinion on for or against if they didn't have to use it or pay the extremely high premiums?
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iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
May 13, 2017 10:32am
Intelligence for one. Why would I value people's opinion on if it's a good law or not from people who don't have to pay for anything anyway?sleeper;1852798 wrote:It's 54% and that's the majority of the country. What do taxes have to do with this?
Facts don't care about your feelings.
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sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 13, 2017 10:37am
Right because there wasn't butt hurt from Republicans because a black Democrat passed the Heritage foundation plan instead of a White Republican. But yes, let's be proven wrong and then go back to November to find something that supports my outdated viewpoint.iclfan2;1852799 wrote:Also, in November 42 approved and 53 disapproved. Sounds like some butt hurt over Trump. Additionally, only 26% would keep it as is. http://www.gallup.com/poll/207671/affordable-care-act-gains-majority-approval-first-time.aspx
Polls on something like this don't even make sense bc most people with jobs were barely affected by this other than maybe higher premiums. Why would they have a strong opinion on for or against if they didn't have to use it or pay the extremely high premiums?
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They don't need a strong opinion to be polled. They were asked if they approve or disapprove of Obamacare keeping in mind that some who disapprove, like myself, may do so because they want Single Payer, not the Republican Heritage Foundation plan.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 13, 2017 10:38am
You don't have to value their opinion; that doesn't change the reality that the majority of this country likes Obamacare.iclfan2;1852800 wrote:Intelligence for one. Why would I value people's opinion on if it's a good law or not from people who don't have to pay for anything anyway?
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Sorry you were proven wrong so easily. Try to watch something other than Fox News and develop independent thoughts.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
May 13, 2017 10:41am
The "majority" approves for the first time ever. Good work. That doesn't equal "the country approves it". I don't care about the Trump plan either. My insurance was fine in 2010 and is fine now. None of it affects me, but when you have full states where not one Obamacare exchange exists, or the largest insurance companies are dropping out of it, there is clearly a problem.
I don't watch the news, I'm not a 60 year old. People watching the news is the problem when it's propaganda 99% of the time. Hence my intelligence comment, the problem with the country is the lack of intelligent people, and as college campuses have shown, it is only getting worse.
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I don't watch the news, I'm not a 60 year old. People watching the news is the problem when it's propaganda 99% of the time. Hence my intelligence comment, the problem with the country is the lack of intelligent people, and as college campuses have shown, it is only getting worse.
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