Disgusted with Trump administration - Part I

Home ▸ Archive ▸ Politics ▸ Disgusted with Trump administration - Part I
like_that's avatar

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

26,625 posts
Mar 15, 2017 12:02 PM
Is there any doubt that Trump's team leaked the tax returns to cuck MSNBC? Maddow looks like a clown now. If Trump is good at one thing, he is good at pwning the media. It's pathetic how they fall for his shit all the time.

Also, it was only a 2005 return, but further proof that Bernie is a phony. I can't believe that guy is still relevant.
Mar 15, 2017 12:02pm
Heretic's avatar

Heretic

Son of the Sun

18,820 posts
Mar 15, 2017 12:05 PM
like_that;1841847 wrote:Is there any doubt that Trump's team leaked the tax returns to cuck MSNBC? Maddow looks like a clown now. If Trump is good at one thing, he is good at pwning the media. It's pathetic how they fall for his shit all the time.

Also, it was only a 2005 return, but further proof that Bernie is a phony. I can't believe that guy is still relevant.
As long as there are college kids whose entire political knowledge is based on one poly sci class where they spent more time staring at some chick's tits from a couple rows over than actually paying attention, Bernie will still be relevant!

Much like how Trump is relevant because of how a large section of our country looks at reality TV as the peak of culture in our society.
Mar 15, 2017 12:05pm
ptown_trojans_1's avatar

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

7,632 posts
Mar 15, 2017 1:07 PM
like_that;1841847 wrote:Is there any doubt that Trump's team leaked the tax returns to cuck MSNBC? Maddow looks like a clown now. If Trump is good at one thing, he is good at pwning the media. It's pathetic how they fall for his shit all the time.

Also, it was only a 2005 return, but further proof that Bernie is a phony. I can't believe that guy is still relevant.
That's how I viewed it as well. I was like oh it's 2005..so not relevant to today....
And Trump is the master at schooling the media, throwing shit out and letting them chase after it.
Mar 15, 2017 1:07pm
G

gut

Senior Member

15,058 posts
Mar 15, 2017 1:20 PM
ptown_trojans_1;1841879 wrote: And Trump is the master at schooling the media, throwing shit out and letting them chase after it.
Not sure I'd go that far.....This is low-hanging fruit given how irrational and unhinged the liberal media is right now.

But Trump is a compulsive liar and a bully - I don't think a media used to much more professionalism has figured out how to respond. Although, if they sink to his level they will lose.
Mar 15, 2017 1:20pm
fish82's avatar

fish82

Senior Member

4,111 posts
Mar 15, 2017 3:34 PM
ptown_trojans_1;1841845 wrote:Congrats to him.
Now, release all the other years...
Why? He already debunked the "he doesn't pay any taxes" talking point...with prejudice I might add.

Nothing really left for him to prove at this point. He's better served by letting the idiots chase the "links to Russia in the returns" meme and continue looking stupid.
Mar 15, 2017 3:34pm
ptown_trojans_1's avatar

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

7,632 posts
Mar 15, 2017 3:51 PM
gut;1841886 wrote:Not sure I'd go that far.....This is low-hanging fruit given how irrational and unhinged the liberal media is right now.

But Trump is a compulsive liar and a bully - I don't think a media used to much more professionalism has figured out how to respond. Although, if they sink to his level they will lose.
Yeah, let me rephrase. Trump is great at tweeting and having some in the dumb, talking points media, suddenly rush to what he means and why he tweeted it. He also is great at throwing one line statements that are partially or half truths and suddenly it is reported that's what the administration as a whole thinks. The wire tapping, voter fraud, and all the sad! tweets are examples.
fish82;1841938 wrote:Why? He already debunked the "he doesn't pay any taxes" talking point...with prejudice I might add.

Nothing really left for him to prove at this point. He's better served by letting the idiots chase the "links to Russia in the returns" meme and continue looking stupid.
No it doesn't. It is one year, 2005. One data point. Proves nothing.
Mar 15, 2017 3:51pm
G

gut

Senior Member

15,058 posts
Mar 15, 2017 3:58 PM
fish82;1841938 wrote:Why? He already debunked the "he doesn't pay any taxes" talking point...with prejudice I might add.
I'm waiting for someone to pick-up on the fact that $150M in income doesn't seem like much for a guy who claimed to be worth $10B. $150M in income would imply something like $1.5B in real estate assets (unlevered). Of course, we don't know what other investments he had, but other capital gains would only lower the former number.

I've always been of the opinion the reason he doesn't release his tax returns is he doesn't want people to know what he's actually worth (and estimates in the $3-$4B range could be high).
Mar 15, 2017 3:58pm
fish82's avatar

fish82

Senior Member

4,111 posts
Mar 15, 2017 4:03 PM
ptown_trojans_1;1841952 wrote: No it doesn't. It is one year, 2005. One data point. Proves nothing.
He only needs the one. You people have claimed for 12 months that he "doesn't pay any taxes." You've been debunked with prejudice.

If you all aren't smart enough to just take the L and drop it, don't blame me.
Mar 15, 2017 4:03pm
fish82's avatar

fish82

Senior Member

4,111 posts
Mar 15, 2017 4:05 PM
gut;1841953 wrote:I'm waiting for someone to pick-up on the fact that $150M in income doesn't seem like much for a guy who claimed to be worth $10B. $150M in income would imply something like $1.5B in real estate assets (unlevered). Of course, we don't know what other investments he had, but other capital gains would only lower the former number.

I've always been of the opinion the reason he doesn't release his tax returns is he doesn't want people to know what he's actually worth (and estimates in the $3-$4B range could be high).
That's a reasonable assumption. That, and I'm sure that while nothing illegal would be found, there would be plenty of deductions that the democrats would be butthurt over.
Mar 15, 2017 4:05pm
ptown_trojans_1's avatar

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

7,632 posts
Mar 15, 2017 4:18 PM
gut;1841953 wrote:I'm waiting for someone to pick-up on the fact that $150M in income doesn't seem like much for a guy who claimed to be worth $10B. $150M in income would imply something like $1.5B in real estate assets (unlevered). Of course, we don't know what other investments he had, but other capital gains would only lower the former number.

I've always been of the opinion the reason he doesn't release his tax returns is he doesn't want people to know what he's actually worth (and estimates in the $3-$4B range could be high).
I fall in that bucket too. He is a known to stretch the truth, so in fact his actual worth may be below what he says it is.
fish82;1841954 wrote:He only needs the one. You people have claimed for 12 months that he "doesn't pay any taxes." You've been debunked with prejudice.

If you all aren't smart enough to just take the L and drop it, don't blame me.
What do you mean you people?

I actually don't think he has any ties to Russia. I just think it is in the best interest of the public officials to release tax returns and be as transparent as possible when it comes to any potential conflict of interest or areas that could be exploited.
I don't care about his 2005 tax return. I care about his 2015 and 2016 tax return.
Mar 15, 2017 4:18pm
fish82's avatar

fish82

Senior Member

4,111 posts
Mar 15, 2017 4:39 PM
ptown_trojans_1;1841958 wrote: What do you mean you people?
You know who you are. ;)
ptown_trojans_1;1841958 wrote:I actually don't think he has any ties to Russia. I just think it is in the best interest of the public officials to release tax returns and be as transparent as possible when it comes to any potential conflict of interest or areas that could be exploited.
I don't disagree, but the fact remains (as I stated above) that Trump's returns would be unlike any previously released byt a POTUS candidate...while I seriously doubt there are "conflicts of interest or areas that could be exploited," I'm sure that there would be no shortage of stuff that the democrats would cry about.
ptown_trojans_1;1841958 wrote:I don't care about his 2005 tax return. I care about his 2015 and 2016 tax return.
That's silly. Why? What leads you to believe they'd be any different?

The question on the table was "we need to see his tax returns, so we can throw a fit about how little he pays." (Yes, I'm paraphrasing, but let's not pretend that wasn't the desired outcome.)

He just shut that down. Asking for 2015/2016 just looks petty at this point. Brian Fallon has the right idea...abandon this silliness and focus on the dumb healthcare replacement.
Mar 15, 2017 4:39pm
G

gut

Senior Member

15,058 posts
Mar 15, 2017 6:50 PM
fish82;1841954 wrote:He only needs the one. You people have claimed for 12 months that he "doesn't pay any taxes." You've been debunked with prejudice.

If you all aren't smart enough to just take the L and drop it, don't blame me.
Yeah, but 1 year could grossly overstate what his actual effective rate is....especially a single return from over a decade ago.

I don't care that much. It seems to be mostly fodder for partisan press to bitch about effective rates, deductions/loopholes, how much they give to charity, etc.. None of that has much to do with their qualification to be POTUS.

Same with Bernie Sanders. I don't care. You're not a hypocrite for taking an allowed deduction you think should be eliminated Nobody does any differently. Maybe you want to take that savings and give it to charity, or family.
Mar 15, 2017 6:50pm
fish82's avatar

fish82

Senior Member

4,111 posts
Mar 16, 2017 9:00 AM
gut;1841993 wrote:Yeah, but 1 year could grossly overstate what his actual effective rate is....especially a single return from over a decade ago.

I don't care that much. It seems to be mostly fodder for partisan press to bitch about effective rates, deductions/loopholes, how much they give to charity, etc.. None of that has much to do with their qualification to be POTUS.

Same with Bernie Sanders. I don't care. You're not a hypocrite for taking an allowed deduction you think should be eliminated Nobody does any differently. Maybe you want to take that savings and give it to charity, or family.
I agree...I'm sure he didn't choose 2005 by accident, and there are probably several years that he didn't pay 25%. I'd be willing to wager that he's in the 16-20% range most years, though.
Mar 16, 2017 9:00am
I

isadore

Senior Member

7,762 posts
Mar 18, 2017 3:46 PM
Hail Trump
and now our great leader manages to insult our closest ally with a lie
Mar 18, 2017 3:46pm
Q

QuakerOats

Senior Member

8,740 posts
Mar 20, 2017 4:33 PM
I didn't know we had any allies left after the last 8 years, unless you're counting Iran et.al...
Mar 20, 2017 4:33pm
ptown_trojans_1's avatar

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

7,632 posts
Mar 20, 2017 4:47 PM
QuakerOats;1842989 wrote:I didn't know we had any allies left after the last 8 years, unless you're counting Iran et.al...
Nah man, just Russia now, amirite?
Seriously, what a dumb comment.
Mar 20, 2017 4:47pm
ptown_trojans_1's avatar

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

7,632 posts
Mar 20, 2017 4:50 PM
Also, of note, the Solicitations for the prototypes for the Wall dropped on Friday.
Two requirements, one for concrete ideas and one for other type of structures.
Each contract will have a max value of $300M, so $600M total for the prototypes.

Bids are due end of March and they hope for Awards by May/ June to start.

Your tax dollars at work folks.
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=c0cce0b2ef8d297b22dc251ea14c60d1&tab=core&tabmode=list&=
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=cff7de3dac2790e71966a823b73ec024&_cview=1
Mar 20, 2017 4:50pm
G

gut

Senior Member

15,058 posts
Mar 20, 2017 4:59 PM
ptown_trojans_1;1842994 wrote:Also, of note, the Solicitations for the prototypes for the Wall dropped on Friday.
Two requirements, one for concrete ideas and one for other type of structures.
Each contract will have a max value of $300M, so $600M total for the prototypes.
But why are you dismissing the massive amounts of tourist dollars that will flow in to see such a "great, beautiful wall"? :RpS_w00t:
Mar 20, 2017 4:59pm
like_that's avatar

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

26,625 posts
Mar 20, 2017 5:23 PM
ptown_trojans_1;1842994 wrote:Also, of note, the Solicitations for the prototypes for the Wall dropped on Friday.
Two requirements, one for concrete ideas and one for other type of structures.
Each contract will have a max value of $300M, so $600M total for the prototypes.

Bids are due end of March and they hope for Awards by May/ June to start.

Your tax dollars at work folks.
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=c0cce0b2ef8d297b22dc251ea14c60d1&tab=core&tabmode=list&=
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=cff7de3dac2790e71966a823b73ec024&_cview=1
lol, nobody is going to read this shit.
Mar 20, 2017 5:23pm
Q

QuakerOats

Senior Member

8,740 posts
Mar 21, 2017 10:24 AM
ptown_trojans_1;1842994 wrote:Also, of note, the Solicitations for the prototypes for the Wall dropped on Friday.
Two requirements, one for concrete ideas and one for other type of structures.
Each contract will have a max value of $300M, so $600M total for the prototypes.

Bids are due end of March and they hope for Awards by May/ June to start.

Your tax dollars at work folks.
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=c0cce0b2ef8d297b22dc251ea14c60d1&tab=core&tabmode=list&=
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=cff7de3dac2790e71966a823b73ec024&_cview=1


Let's build bridges not walls
Love trumps hate
Kumbaya




Or, we could adhere to the U.S. Constitution, Article IV, Section 4.
Mar 21, 2017 10:24am
ptown_trojans_1's avatar

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

7,632 posts
Mar 21, 2017 10:46 AM
QuakerOats;1843067 wrote:Let's build bridges not walls
Love trumps hate
Kumbaya




Or, we could adhere to the U.S. Constitution, Article IV, Section 4.
Actually, I would like to spend that money on better roads, dams, deeper harbors, bridges, and fixing our D grade infrastructure.
Give me better infrastructure instead of the wall.
Mar 21, 2017 10:46am
like_that's avatar

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

26,625 posts
Mar 21, 2017 11:43 AM
ptown_trojans_1;1843071 wrote:Actually, I would like to spend that money on better roads, dams, deeper harbors, bridges, and fixing our D grade infrastructure.
Give me better infrastructure instead of the wall.
Crazy concept that has been overlooked for a couple decades now.
Mar 21, 2017 11:43am
J

jmog

Senior Member

6,567 posts
Mar 21, 2017 11:49 AM
Devils Advocate;1843072 wrote:[video]http://iwastesomuchtime.com/this_is_a_wall__17317[/video]
Funny thing about that, is that most people I have seen online that want that wall built stronger also comment that Churches should be taxed...in other words they only want the wall to be a one way wall.
Mar 21, 2017 11:49am
G

gut

Senior Member

15,058 posts
Mar 21, 2017 12:20 PM
ptown_trojans_1;1843071 wrote:Actually, I would like to spend that money on better roads, dams, deeper harbors, bridges, and fixing our D grade infrastructure.
Give me better infrastructure instead of the wall.
Interestingly enough, I feel like we just spent a trillion dollars not long ago that, somehow, managed to address none of that.
Mar 21, 2017 12:20pm