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gut
Posts: 15,058
Nov 9, 2016 11:58pm
Bernie would have easily beaten Trump. But I think any number of other Republican candidates would have easily beaten Bernie.O-Trap;1823419 wrote:If election decisions were based on policy, I would agree.
However, based on the comparison between his and her funding, as well as the absence of scandal for him, I think he'd be an easier sell.
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Nov 10, 2016 1:28am
On ideology alone yes he would be a harder sell. The public exposure of the corruption of Hillary, her campaign, and the DNC was unique in our lifetime. There are a significant number of voters who value the rule of law above party. I had resigned myself to a write in for president. Then I saw the political power wielded against Comey and the FBI. I changed my mind and used the only vehicle left to keep the law breaker from being rewarded with the highest office. Our legal system failed me so peacefully I inked an oval for Tump right above the write in blanks I wanted to fill. I am sure I was not alone. Both parties are culpable maybe I should not lay it all on the DNC. Toughest vote I ever cast.iclfan2;1823403 wrote:Maybe I don't get it, but I think Bernie would have been as hard or harder of a sell than Hillary.
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Nov 10, 2016 1:30am
This.gut;1823420 wrote:Bernie would have easily beaten Trump. But I think any number of other Republican candidates would have easily beaten Bernie.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Nov 10, 2016 2:17am
Yeah, I think a lot of the people who were leery of someone with Trump's temperament being president, but were dead-set against Hillary would look at Bernie as a good escape hatch because they'd know his policies would be so far left, everything would get bogged down, so it'd basically be four years of nothing going on.gut;1823420 wrote:Bernie would have easily beaten Trump. But I think any number of other Republican candidates would have easily beaten Bernie.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Nov 10, 2016 2:46am
An interesting theory I saw that a few, at least enough to make a difference in a close election, voted AGAINST Hillary thinking she was going to win anyway while picking Repubs to control the House and Senate. Only flaw with that logic is why not just vote 3rd party - granted, for me it wasn't going to matter but I wasn't going to endorse either one of those clowns with my vote.Heretic;1823424 wrote:Yeah, I think a lot of the people who were leery of someone with Trump's temperament being president, but were dead-set against Hillary would look at Bernie as a good escape hatch because they'd know his policies would be so far left, everything would get bogged down, so it'd basically be four years of nothing going on.
And the other half of the story is a bunch more of Obama's coalition stayed home - Trump will probably just edge McCain's popular vote and fall short of Romney. Trump didn't bungle his way to a win - Hillary flat out lost the election with a campaign that would have embarrassed Mitt Romney.
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Nov 10, 2016 4:19am
I've been wondering lately if Comey wasn't brilliant in his actions. Or inactions, depending on how you see it.majorspark;1823422 wrote:Then I saw the political power wielded against Comey and the FBI.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Nov 10, 2016 4:46am
I don't feel like that last deal had as much impact as people think. I think when he "recommended no charges" and basically laid out the case and showed she lied that it may have cost her the election.CenterBHSFan;1823427 wrote:I've been wondering lately if Comey wasn't brilliant in his actions. Or inactions, depending on how you see it.
But the fact is, while maybe a prosecutor couldn't prove criminal liability, we all KNOW the only reason she did that was a deliberate attempt to evade FOIA and Congressional inquiry.
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Wally
Posts: 481
Nov 10, 2016 6:13am
This really was pretty much like every game thread....when I read it a day or 2 later and see how much Sleeper and Isadore FAIL there was early on....makes me smile.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Nov 10, 2016 6:23am
Shut up and be tolerant of the riotingiclfan2;1823406 wrote:lol burning flags and blocking traffic. So fucking American and tolerant. Hilarity ensues anytime a liberal gets butt hurt, which is apparently a lot.
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Wolves of Babylon
Posts: 408
Nov 10, 2016 6:32am
It amazes me how many people think we should be a true democracy where popular vote decides everything.
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Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Nov 10, 2016 6:34am
Here comes the protesters anti Trump....Career unemployed, educated medicated misfits, uneducated unemployable, all the matter groups, basement dwellers, oc trolls, career felones, professional looters, coat hang supporters, entitlement generation and this could be fun party goers... Protesting for their displeasure with the election of Trump that would be the "title reason" but the real goal for many participants is the opportunity to loot, destroy, robbery and get free stuff...
Not My President .... I can understand that but you better have justifiable reason, commitment to your believes and the criteria of being functional, prosperous, legal, law biding, tax paying citizen if not stfu
Not My President .... I can understand that but you better have justifiable reason, commitment to your believes and the criteria of being functional, prosperous, legal, law biding, tax paying citizen if not stfu
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Nov 10, 2016 7:38am
The "love trumps hate" hypocritical losers is the best part about this election so far.
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ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Nov 10, 2016 9:26am
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Nov 10, 2016 10:07am
Thank you. I am not going to be gloating; I was not a big Trump fan, especially on the personal level. I tried to concentrate on the major issues and how he was vastly different, and better, on those issues vs. Clinton. I was with the 70% of The People who believe our country is on the wrong track. We have a great opportunity to get back on the right track, first by ridding federal agencies of the left-wing radicals who have infiltrated and control BIG government. From there, we implement the pro-growth economic policies we so desperately need. Lastly, the cultural marxism driven by the radical left must be vanquished so that we can eliminate the destructive identity politics which is the driver of the wedge dividing Americans.jedbartlet02;1823384 wrote:Some Conservatives here were quite gracious and respectful 4 and 8 years ago so I'm trying to be the same today
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Nov 10, 2016 10:11am
majorspark;1823422 wrote:On ideology alone yes he would be a harder sell. The public exposure of the corruption of Hillary, her campaign, and the DNC was unique in our lifetime. There are a significant number of voters who value the rule of law above party. I had resigned myself to a write in for president. Then I saw the political power wielded against Comey and the FBI. I changed my mind and used the only vehicle left to keep the law breaker from being rewarded with the highest office. Our legal system failed me so peacefully I inked an oval for Tump right above the write in blanks I wanted to fill. I am sure I was not alone. Both parties are culpable maybe I should not lay it all on the DNC. Toughest vote I ever cast.
You are to be admired for 'taking one for the team'.
Thank you for your 'service' to the republic.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Nov 10, 2016 10:24am
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/people-have-to-die-anti-trump-protester-calls-for-violence-on-cnn/
The preachers of tolerance now say people have to die ................because they disagree with cultural marxism.
Let the shit-show begin.
The preachers of tolerance now say people have to die ................because they disagree with cultural marxism.
Let the shit-show begin.
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wkfan
Posts: 1,641
Nov 10, 2016 10:52am
It already has......QuakerOats;1823482 wrote:Let the shit-show begin.
It began the moment the butt-hurt people whose candidate lost started rioting in the streets.
Such hypocrites.....preaching love and tolerance (good values) and then behaving like this. Such a good thing that their ideology and thought process was rejected.
Here's hoping that a more tolerant, more welcoming atmosphere is coming to this country.
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Nov 10, 2016 11:20am
All these millenials that got trophies in youth soccer and got to win at everything don't know how to lose. Get ready for 40 more years of this crap. They might be worse then the baby boomers
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Nov 10, 2016 11:37am
First of all, Belly, you started a trend! "Not my President!"ernest_t_bass;1823458 wrote:[video=youtube;NXUaQe3ziEY][/video]
Secondly, aren't all of those young people adorable? I guess the left really does have its fair share of "scare bears".
Just too cute!
Thirdly, their tears tastes like Strongbow Cherry Blossom hard cider. *sips while holding pinky out*
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 10, 2016 11:39am
There's no way even the worst of the Millennials will be as bad as what the Boomers have done to this country.Spock;1823515 wrote:All these millenials that got trophies in youth soccer and got to win at everything don't know how to lose. Get ready for 40 more years of this crap. They might be worse then the baby boomers
I'll take the most educated generation in American history, who value women, people of color, and gay people over the trash clowns who voted Donald Trump in as President.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Nov 10, 2016 11:55am
*thanSpock;1823515 wrote:All these millenials that got trophies in youth soccer and got to win at everything don't know how to lose. Get ready for 40 more years of this crap. They might be worse then the baby boomers
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Nov 10, 2016 11:58am
sleeper;1823523 wrote:There's no way even the worst of the Millennials will be as bad as what the Boomers have done to this country.
I'll take the most educated generation in American history, who value women, people of color, and gay people over the trash clowns who voted Donald Trump in as President.
It's a good thing they are the 'most educated', because they lack common sense and are far too dumb to ever work in a factory.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 10, 2016 12:04pm
Yeah none of us want to work in a factory. That's for trash.QuakerOats;1823535 wrote:It's a good thing they are the 'most educated', because they lack common sense and are far too dumb to ever work in a factory.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Nov 10, 2016 12:06pm
sleeper;1823540 wrote:Yeah none of us want to work in a factory. That's for trash.
You wouldn't last 30 minutes; part of the reason you just got your ass handed to you.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 10, 2016 12:08pm
So textile factories are coming back?
When should we expect Apple to start shifting iPhone production to the US?
When should we expect Apple to start shifting iPhone production to the US?