Columbus:Officer shoots 13-year old, who pulled BB Gun on them during chase

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Sep 15, 2016 8:36 AM
Surprised this wasn't on here yet...from everything in the article, sounds pretty cut and dry that the officer did what he needed to do. Unfortunate and sad? Absolutely. Would I do the same thing in that situation as the officer...Absolutely.

http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com/story/news/nation/2016/09/15/ohio-police-officer-shoots-kills-13-year-old-bb-gun/90398996/?hootPostID=a14cb479903ab18abb2b36a0fdb4f22e

However, I'm just waiting for this to get picked up nationally and seeing how this will be spun by some.
Sep 15, 2016 8:36am
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Sep 15, 2016 9:58 AM
A tragic story, but from the initial reports it sounds like a justified shooting.
Sep 15, 2016 9:58am
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Sep 15, 2016 10:12 AM
Fly4Fun;1810999 wrote:A tragic story, but from the initial reports it sounds like a justified shooting.
If the kid is black and the officer is white, the shooting is never justified.

Also should add, if the kid is white, it won't make national news.
Sep 15, 2016 10:12am
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Sep 15, 2016 10:35 AM
Police said the gun, found at the scene, was later determined to be a BB gun with an attached laser sight.
I mean... really? This is 100% justified. My only question/concern with any situation like this is "shoot to kill." Why can we not shoot to disarm or shoot to disable?
Sep 15, 2016 10:35am
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Sep 15, 2016 10:44 AM
A dead gunman can't shoot back, a wounded one could.
Sep 15, 2016 10:44am
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Sep 15, 2016 10:48 AM
Because shooting to disarm or disable can still get you killed. These guys make $40k a year and want to get back to their families at night.

Have you shot a gun? If you need to stop something you aren't going to aim for the smallest target (an arm or leg).


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Sep 15, 2016 10:48am
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Sep 15, 2016 10:48 AM
ernest_t_bass;1811006 wrote:I mean... really? This is 100% justified. My only question/concern with any situation like this is "shoot to kill." Why can we not shoot to disarm or shoot to disable?
I hate this question. Sorry.

But, to just answer it, maybe the officer did? A couple of shots to disable him...just wasn't able to pull through.
Sep 15, 2016 10:48am
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Sep 15, 2016 10:48 AM
sleeper;1811000 wrote:If the kid is black and the officer is white, the shooting is never justified.

Also should add, if the kid is white, it won't make national news.
Beat me to it.
Sep 15, 2016 10:48am
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Sep 15, 2016 10:48 AM
ernest_t_bass;1811006 wrote:I mean... really? This is 100% justified. My only question/concern with any situation like this is "shoot to kill." Why can we not shoot to disarm or shoot to disable?
My initial thought was...who mounts a laser scope on a BB gun?
Sep 15, 2016 10:48am
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Sep 15, 2016 12:12 PM
Hitting a moving target at a decent range out in 'just a food or arm' is not as easy as they make it seem on TV.
Sep 15, 2016 12:12pm
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Sep 15, 2016 12:43 PM
One doesn't "shoot to kill", they shoot to stop the threat. The best way to do so is to fire center-mass until the bad guy gives up or goes down. Until that happens, he's still a threat to the officer's safety.

Also, it's been estimated that under the stress of these types of situations, even good shooters lose about 60% of their accuracy. You shoot at the largest target available (center-mass), and hope you hit it.
Sep 15, 2016 12:43pm
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Sep 15, 2016 1:45 PM
thavoice;1811031 wrote:Hitting a moving target at a decent range out in 'just a food or arm' is not as easy as they make it seem on TV.
Change "not as easy" to "damn near impossible", especially if you think the target might be shooting back.......Way to much TV.
Sep 15, 2016 1:45pm
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Sep 15, 2016 1:58 PM
Sad, hope there is body cam footage to put the truth out, whatever that may be.
Sep 15, 2016 1:58pm
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Sep 15, 2016 2:09 PM
Zoltan;1811043 wrote:Sad, hope there is body cam footage to put the truth out, whatever that may be.
Does Columbus use them?
Sep 15, 2016 2:09pm
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Sep 15, 2016 2:34 PM
Benny The Jet;1811047 wrote:Does Columbus use them?
I believe Columbus has them but not for every officer. You can probably guess that this officer didn't have one on, but luckily for him there were multiple witnesses of the shooting who are allegedly corroborating the officer's story.
Sep 15, 2016 2:34pm
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Sep 15, 2016 3:16 PM
Point a gun at someone, especially a law enforcement agent who also has a gun, expect to get shot.
Sep 15, 2016 3:16pm
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Sep 15, 2016 3:23 PM
vball10set;1811052 wrote:Point a gun at somebody, especially a law enforcement official who also has a gun, expect to get shot.
Seems simple but the hashtag commandos have started the spin (#TyreeKing). #blacklivesmatterfactsdonot
Sep 15, 2016 3:23pm
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Sep 15, 2016 3:35 PM
queencitybuckeye;1811055 wrote:Seems simple but the hashtag commandos have started the spin (#TyreeKing). #blacklivesmatterfactsdonot
Likely a pay day coming for the family.

Racism will never die because it pays too well.
Sep 15, 2016 3:35pm
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Sep 15, 2016 3:37 PM
sleeper;1811059 wrote:Likely a pay day coming for the family.

Racism will never die because it pays too well.
Never thought of it like that, but it sure makes you wonder.
Sep 15, 2016 3:37pm
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Sep 15, 2016 3:42 PM
vball10set;1811060 wrote:Never thought of it like that, but it sure makes you wonder.
Certainly the race pimps (Jackson, Sharpton, etc.) want nothing to do with the end of racism. Sadly, they and their ilk have convinced a number of dull white SJWs that there's merit to their nonsense.
Sep 15, 2016 3:42pm
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Sep 15, 2016 3:59 PM
vball10set;1811060 wrote:Never thought of it like that, but it sure makes you wonder.
Sandra Bland's family just got $1.9M because she killed herself in police custody.

Do you think a random white person who goes through the same thing gets paid?
Sep 15, 2016 3:59pm
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Sep 15, 2016 4:00 PM
sleeper;1811068 wrote:Sandra Bland's family just got $1.9M because she killed herself in police custody.

Do you think a random white person who goes through the same thing gets paid?
Yes, without a doubt.
Sep 15, 2016 4:00pm
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Sep 15, 2016 4:02 PM
Commander of Awesome;1811069 wrote:Yes, without a doubt.
No chance. It wouldn't make national news and without the political pressure there's no way the police department would have settled.

$1.9M for killing yourself. What a time to be alive.
Sep 15, 2016 4:02pm
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Sep 15, 2016 4:04 PM
sleeper;1811059 wrote:
Racism will never die because it pays too well.
You've said some dumb shit, but this might take the cake. Nice hottaek there shooter.
Sep 15, 2016 4:04pm
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Sep 15, 2016 4:04 PM
sleeper;1811070 wrote:No chance. It wouldn't make national news and without the political pressure there's no way the police department would have settled.

$1.9M for killing yourself. What a time to be alive.
Pretty much this. White people already have too much privilege.
Sep 15, 2016 4:04pm