Archive 2016 NFL Season

Laley23

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Oct 10, 2016 10:44pm

Not to mention NFL pushing TNF and investing a ton of their own money into it. Every team has to play on TNF, so selection is limited...but moving forward wouldn't be shocked to see the NFL find a way to make those matchups be big games.

Laley23

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Oct 10, 2016 10:48pm

Ironman92;1815028 wrote:Thanks for the info

No problem. ESPN has never been able to show NFL highlights in real time and we're in the verge of having to hold off even during Primtime a few years ago. Their main concern was that, and the game was 2nd, as they thought MNF the product would carry the slot. Bad rating still don't hurt them much, but the severely missed on how badly SNF would kick their ass.

Fred Gaduelli being hired to NBC from ESPN as lead football producernhas literally changed how the NFL is covered, and for the better.

Ironman92

Posts: 49,363

Oct 10, 2016 10:51pm

Still surprised, even with the 4th choice each week they couldn't do better.

Looks more like they chose 7th

SportsAndLady

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Oct 10, 2016 10:59pm

Is that a safety?

SportsAndLady

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Oct 10, 2016 11:02pm

Am I going crazy? Why was that INT not ruled a safety? The ball was punched out of his hand and wasn't tagged down

Laley23

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Oct 10, 2016 11:21pm

Ironman92;1815032 wrote:Still surprised, even with the 4th choice each week they couldn't do better.

Looks more like they chose 7th

Keep in kind, that's 4th choice with restrictions...TNF requirements, only allowed so many primetime requirements, etc. And Carolina vs TB looked damn good preseason as well.

Laley23

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Oct 10, 2016 11:23pm

SportsAndLady;1815039 wrote:Am I going crazy? Why was that INT not ruled a safety? The ball was punched out of his hand and wasn't tagged down

Change of possession started in end zone, I believe that means unless it is exited, it's a touchback. Same as an INT when the man kneels it.

EDIT: thinking more...not sure. If they called it a fumble out of endzone should be safety...

SportsAndLady

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Oct 10, 2016 11:38pm

Laley23;1815045 wrote:Change of possession started in end zone, I believe that means unless it is exited, it's a touchback. Same as an INT when the man kneels it.

EDIT: thinking more...not sure. If they called it a fumble out of endzone should be safety...

I never knew there was a rule about an int happening in the end zone there would be no need to be tagged down. But I'm sure there is.

As a Carolina defense fantasy owner, I was really yelling for that to be reviewed lol.

(Ended up winning by less than half a point, so I guess no harm done.

Laley23

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Oct 10, 2016 11:46pm

SportsAndLady;1815046 wrote:I never knew there was a rule about an int happening in the end zone there would be no need to be tagged down. But I'm sure there is.

As a Carolina defense fantasy owner, I was really yelling for that to be reviewed lol.

(Ended up winning by less than half a point, so I guess no harm done.

I juat know when an INT happens and they kneel, it's a touchback. This would be same principle, but I had never seen it, so I was curious as well.

salto

Posts: 2,611

Oct 11, 2016 3:27am

This thread sucks and so does S&L.

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thavoice

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Oct 11, 2016 11:22am

Laley23;1815049 wrote:I juat know when an INT happens and they kneel, it's a touchback. This would be same principle, but I had never seen it, so I was curious as well.

I have seen it before on interceptions in play, kick returners have used it as well over the years, QBs can down it, and even receivers. It basically falls under giving yourself up. I bet you have seen it more than you realized over the years.

Here is where it atalks about it in the rulebook.

"d) when a runner declares himself down by: (1) falling to the ground, or kneeling, and clearly making no immediate effort to advance
(2) sliding feet-first on the ground. When a runner slides feet first, the ball is dead the instant
he
touches the ground with
anything other than his hands or his feet "

Laley23

Posts: 29,506

Oct 11, 2016 12:24pm

thavoice;1815082 wrote:I have seen it before on interceptions in play, kick returners have used it as well over the years, QBs can down it, and even receivers. It basically falls under giving yourself up. I bet you have seen it more than you realized over the years.

Here is where it atalks about it in the rulebook.

"d) when a runner declares himself down by: (1) falling to the ground, or kneeling, and clearly making no immediate effort to advance
(2) sliding feet-first on the ground. When a runner slides feet first, the ball is dead the instant
he
touches the ground with
anything other than his hands or his feet "

youve seen a defender intercept a pass in the endzone, not declare himself down, have the ball punched out for a what would be fumble out the back of the endzone for a touchback several times??

Azubuike24

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Oct 11, 2016 12:26pm

If he doesn't leave the end zone, wouldn't any fumble by the defense (now the offense) be a touchback regardless?

Laley23

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Oct 11, 2016 12:28pm

Azubuike24;1815093 wrote:If he doesn't leave the end zone, wouldn't any fumble by the defense (now the offense) be a touchback regardless?

Right, which is what I initially said. But I had never actually seen it before so wasn't sure. I assumed the rule was the same as a kickoff, interception down by contact, etc.

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thavoice

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Oct 11, 2016 12:33pm

Laley23;1815092 wrote:youve seen a defender intercept a pass in the endzone, not declare himself down, have the ball punched out for a what would be fumble out the back of the endzone for a touchback several times??

No..Maybe I missed something......I meant giving himself up by kneeling it down and not getting touched down.

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thavoice

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Oct 11, 2016 12:40pm

Laley23;1815029 wrote:Not to mention NFL pushing TNF and investing a ton of their own money into it. Every team has to play on TNF, so selection is limited...but moving forward wouldn't be shocked to see the NFL find a way to make those matchups be big games.

They like to put division games on Thurs night because teams know eachother (travel usually not bad) and already basically have their game plans for them. I think that can affect ratings as well. I know, for me, my viewing usually goes with the steelers first, then division games, conference games and then opposite conference if no other good games piques my interest.

Heretic

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Oct 11, 2016 1:06pm

I see we're getting closer to that magical point of the year when Jerry Jones single-handedly sabotages Dallas' season in order to get Romo out there THE VERY SECOND he is reasonably healthy.

Best case scenario: He gets destroyed in the first quarter of his first game back, so Prescott can go back in without any real loss of momentum.

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Oct 11, 2016 1:09pm

The entire offseason excuses for the cowboys was incredible. "Oh next season with a full season of a healthy Romo..." Considering he's played like 1 full season in his life. Romo must have lemonparty.org type photos of jerry, he's terrible and has always been terrible.

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thavoice

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Oct 11, 2016 1:19pm

Heretic;1815110 wrote:I see we're getting closer to that magical point of the year when Jerry Jones single-handedly sabotages Dallas' season in order to get Romo out there THE VERY SECOND he is reasonably healthy.

Best case scenario: He gets destroyed in the first quarter of his first game back, so Prescott can go back in without any real loss of momentum.

The key is "when he is healthy..." While I wouldnt put it past him to force Romo in the lineup I could also see them keep pushing back when Romo is considered "healthy". If they keep playing well and winning, and if JJ doest interject I wouldnt blame Garrett if he just up and quit...but that wont happen.

Laley23

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Oct 11, 2016 4:14pm

thavoice;1815096 wrote:No..Maybe I missed something......I meant giving himself up by kneeling it down and not getting touched down.

Yeah, we see that weekly. That's not what happened on the play we are discussing.

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thavoice

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Oct 11, 2016 4:18pm

Laley23;1815159 wrote:Yeah, we see that weekly. That's not what happened on the play we are discussing.

I admit I didnt go past the current page and wondered wtf you guys were on never seeing that...but i digress.

I see where the ratings are still projected to be down again. I still think it is just the star power and lack of great and close prime time matchups. Tried to watch it last night with Winston, but there wasnt much happening...

anyone think it really is the debates and protesting?

SportsAndLady

Posts: 35,632

Oct 13, 2016 8:33pm

I'm diggin these Charger jerseys...Broncos are sweet too

Mulva

Posts: 13,650

Oct 13, 2016 8:34pm

SportsAndLady;1815543 wrote:I'm diggin these Charger jerseys...Broncos are sweet too

Exactly what I came to post. These color rush jerseys tonight are nice.

Ironman92

Posts: 49,363

Oct 13, 2016 10:49pm

I flipped over to check out the unis (look good) but am not watching. Just checked scores...can SD blow another one?

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thavoice

Posts: 14,376

Oct 14, 2016 11:22am

Thought someone said here that the bengals could redo their helmets but last night the Broncos did.
NOt a very well played game from what I saw but that was my third option behind the Pengiuns then the baseball game.
Ratings have been down...last night had to be bad I would think