hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Mar 24, 2016 5:35pm
and with his arm, it's a double anyways. idiot.Azubuike24;1788714 wrote:Not the sharpest tool in the shed.
http://arizonasports.com/story/604587/mets-of-cespedes-loses-track-of-ball-allows-inside-the-park-home-run/
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 24, 2016 7:06pm
I can argue for him a bit.Azubuike24;1788714 wrote:Not the sharpest tool in the shed.
http://arizonasports.com/story/604587/mets-of-cespedes-loses-track-of-ball-allows-inside-the-park-home-run/
*For one I've never seen that in my life
* Ball was trapped so to speak just not by the wall but by warning track surface
We are taught from early age if the ball is at the wall/fence and is trapped....don't touch it and put arms up.
Now common sense makes him look ignorant as in nearly every case with a trapped ball (minus Wrigley ivy)...the ball could easily be dislodged/picked up in the motion of the play. He was a step or so from wall so not sure what his eye level was but maybe his eye level could not immediately detect the bottom of mat not touching ball (much easier for us as camera angle is way back from wall with a perfect angle. Not convinced he had the immediate angle to see what we saw.
Players do dumb stuff and at least this ignorant play was in the split second moment.
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Mar 24, 2016 9:04pm
Did you notice how far the ump had to reach his hand under the pad to flick the ball back back out from under it. It is clear to me that the ball skipped back in there, well out of sight, and to the OF he didn't know what the status of the ball was, and you are taught if it goes in a tight space not to try to retrieve it and empower the runner to circle the bases. The ball was visible to everyone but the player closest to it!Ironman92;1788729 wrote:I can argue for him a bit.
*For one I've never seen that in my life
* Ball was trapped so to speak just not by the wall but by warning track surface
We are taught from early age if the ball is at the wall/fence and is trapped....don't touch it and put arms up.
Now common sense makes him look ignorant as in nearly every case with a trapped ball (minus Wrigley ivy)...the ball could easily be dislodged/picked up in the motion of the play. He was a step or so from wall so not sure what his eye level was but maybe his eye level could not immediately detect the bottom of mat not touching ball (much easier for us as camera angle is way back from wall with a perfect angle. Not convinced he had the immediate angle to see what we saw.
Players do dumb stuff and at least this ignorant play was in the split second moment.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 27, 2016 2:16pm
Watching a little ST with the Yankees. It's incredible that Arod came up in the strike season 1994. In his first game a teammate of his pitched...and that same pitcher pitched against Al Kaline and Frank Howard.
Azubuike24
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Mar 28, 2016 2:16pm
Jason Giambi was teammates with Dennis Eckersley, who played with Frank Robinson. Similar.
Ironman92
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Mar 28, 2016 4:15pm
Is he trying a comeback? He didn't play last season and barely the year before. Arod came up 2+ seasons before GiambiAzubuike24;1789288 wrote:Jason Giambi was teammates with Dennis Eckersley, who played with Frank Robinson. Similar.
Ironman92
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Mar 28, 2016 7:52pm
Something wrong with Matt Harvey and they won't say what. Hopefully nothing major
Classyposter58
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Mar 28, 2016 8:04pm
Best baseball player of my lifetimeIronman92;1789149 wrote:Watching a little ST with the Yankees. It's incredible that Arod came up in the strike season 1994. In his first game a teammate of his pitched...and that same pitcher pitched against Al Kaline and Frank Howard.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 28, 2016 8:08pm
Barry Bonds 7 MVPs not up to snuff?Classyposter58;1789323 wrote:Best baseball player of my lifetime
IggyPride00
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Mar 29, 2016 4:26am
Yup.Ironman92;1789324 wrote:Barry Bonds 7 MVPs not up to snuff?
It's Bonds and it's not even close.
Guy was a hall of famer before he ever got on the juice, one of the best all around players ever. Juiced or not the plate discipline he showed during that 2001-4 stretch was like nothing the sport has ever seen. Guy would get maybe one pitch a game to hit and never seemed to miss it. That was at an advanced age as well. Had he been juicing like A-rod in his 20's I can't even imagine the kind of player he could have been.
like_that
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Mar 29, 2016 7:26am
You have to factor in that classy is about 17 years old (based on the material of his posts).
Ironman92
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Mar 29, 2016 7:46am
Even then he still has 4 MVPs to Arods 3like_that;1789342 wrote:You have to factor in that classy is about 17 years old (based on the material of his posts).
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 29, 2016 10:11am
Classy probably doesn't remember Bonds. And you can't diss Bonds for the "roids" in this argument.
From 2001-2004, Barry Bonds posted stats over a 4-year span that blow away anything else in baseball history. His 2001, 2002 and 2004 seasons individually are probably the 3 best single seasons of all time.
From 2001-2004, Barry Bonds posted stats over a 4-year span that blow away anything else in baseball history. His 2001, 2002 and 2004 seasons individually are probably the 3 best single seasons of all time.
Ironman92
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Apr 2, 2016 4:18pm
A.J. Pollock out for the season. Sucks as he was around a top 10-15 NL player
Ironman92
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Apr 3, 2016 3:59pm
Good to see the Cardinals struggle to start the MLB season
Ironman92
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Apr 3, 2016 4:55pm
Cardinals with the worst record in baseball.
Heretic
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Apr 3, 2016 6:17pm
Good way to start the season. Schooling the Cards always makes it a fun day.
Ironman92
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Apr 3, 2016 8:39pm
Royals uniforms look good
Heretic
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Apr 3, 2016 10:19pm
Pirates were able to lock down Polanco for five more years, from what I read while doing a quick Twitter check. Great news, because I think he has the tools to develop into a really good player.
Ironman92
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Apr 3, 2016 10:26pm
He's fun to watch. Could be a great one.Heretic;1790051 wrote:Pirates were able to lock down Polanco for five more years, from what I read while doing a quick Twitter check. Great news, because I think he has the tools to develop into a really good player.
Ironman92
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Apr 3, 2016 10:29pm
I think only 6 players remain who began their MLB careers in the 90's
1. Arod (94)
2. Ortiz (97)
3. Colon (97)
4. Beltran (98)
5. Beltre (98)
6. Pierzynski (98)
1. Arod (94)
2. Ortiz (97)
3. Colon (97)
4. Beltran (98)
5. Beltre (98)
6. Pierzynski (98)
hasbeen
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Apr 4, 2016 7:00am
No random bullpen guys?Ironman92;1790054 wrote:I think only 6 players remain who began their MLB careers in the 90's
1. Arod (94)
2. Ortiz (97)
3. Colon (97)
4. Beltran (98)
5. Beltre (98)
6. Pierzynski (98)
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Apr 4, 2016 7:59am
Not that I know of. Teams going younger and they'd have to be in their 18th season.hasbeen;1790065 wrote:No random bullpen guys?
It's likely next year that only 2-4 active players will have played 2000+ games. Typically 10-12 each year but it's declining.
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Al Bundy
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Apr 4, 2016 8:54am
If you don't think Bonds was on roids from 2001-2004, I have a small lake north of Cleveland that I would like to sell to you.Azubuike24;1789360 wrote:Classy probably doesn't remember Bonds. And you can't diss Bonds for the "roids" in this argument.
From 2001-2004, Barry Bonds posted stats over a 4-year span that blow away anything else in baseball history. His 2001, 2002 and 2004 seasons individually are probably the 3 best single seasons of all time.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Apr 4, 2016 9:14am
Pretty sure Azu wasn't saying that Bonds wasn't on roids. He was just saying that in an argument of who was better between Arod and Bonds it doesn't matter since they both were most likely using during the best periods of their careers.Al Bundy;1790073 wrote:If you don't think Bonds was on roids from 2001-2004, I have a small lake north of Cleveland that I would like to sell to you.