Trump vs. Hillary (NO OTHER OPTIONS)

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Jul 27, 2016 10:39am
sleeper;1804639 wrote:I'll add another reason to vote for HRC is to continue to watch QO cry about D's in office. It's pathetic at best.
You don't see me on here deriding Ohio leadership, because it is republican up and down the line at the statewide level, and they have cleaned up all the shit the dems left, from workers comp reform to tax reductions to budget fixes to fracking to common sense government for the most part. We have good leadership that works.

On the other hand, we have radical democrats (not true democrats) controlling the administration and all federal agencies, and the disastrous policies and regulations they have been churning out are putting the final nails in the coffin of the middle class. They said they were for Main St. but only Wall St. has benefited, proving yet again that liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent. Then throw in the fact that their standard bearer is criminal money-laundering, serial liar, and well it is all of our responsibilities to complain about it and do something about it.

Sorry you don't get it.
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Jul 27, 2016 10:48am
Tuesday, July 26
Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton LA Times/USC Trump 47, Clinton 40 Trump +7
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Jul 27, 2016 11:13am
I turned on Bill Clinton for 5 minutes last night....what a horrible speaker. How can he just stand there and lie about loving HC?

He hasn't knocked the dust off that in a decade
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Jul 27, 2016 11:27am
QuakerOats;1804773 wrote:
Tuesday, July 26
Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton LA Times/USC Trump 47, Clinton 40 Trump +7
You do know that it is typical for a candidate to get a large boost immediately after their big pep rally party, don't you? Polls right now have no real meaning, as both parties will get temporary boosts that have no impact on where they'll be in a few weeks, let alone months.
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Jul 27, 2016 11:32am
Heretic;1804780 wrote:You do know that it is typical for a candidate to get a large boost immediately after their big pep rally party, don't you? Polls right now have no real meaning, as both parties will get temporary boosts that have no impact on where they'll be in a few weeks, let alone months.

I trust these numbers more than I trust pundit polls:

http://www.oddsshark.com/entertainment/us-presidential-odds-2016-futures
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Jul 27, 2016 11:33am
Heretic;1804780 wrote:You do know that it is typical for a candidate to get a large boost immediately after their big pep rally party, don't you? Polls right now have no real meaning, as both parties will get temporary boosts that have no impact on where they'll be in a few weeks, let alone months.
Lol right. Although, if wiki leaks truly has more shit to drop as they claim, then I see another trump boost in the coming months.
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Jul 27, 2016 11:34am
Spock;1804776 wrote:I turned on Bill Clinton for 5 minutes last night....what a horrible speaker. How can he just stand there and lie about loving HC?

He hasn't knocked the dust off that in a decade
I think most people on either side of the aisle would agree that Bill is a great speaker. Try not coming off as a complete idiot for once.

With that being said, i heard the speech wasn't that special last night and surely wasn't better than 2012.
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Jul 27, 2016 11:55am
Heretic;1804780 wrote:You do know that it is typical for a candidate to get a large boost immediately after their big pep rally party, don't you?
Yes, I do know that. But it is funny because the lame-stream media was just saying he did not get any significant bounce. They are sooooooooo in the tank for serial liar it is comical.
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Jul 27, 2016 12:40pm
QuakerOats;1804793 wrote:Yes, I do know that. But it is funny because the lame-stream media was just saying he did not get any significant bounce. They are sooooooooo in the tank for serial liar it is comical.
There is no doubt they are protecting her at every turn. When was her last press conference, anyway?

Regarding the comedy...it's on us, isn't it?
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Jul 27, 2016 12:44pm
QuakerOats;1804773 wrote:
Tuesday, July 26
Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
General Election: Trump vs. Clinton LA Times/USC Trump 47, Clinton 40 Trump +7
I heard this is a nightly poll of 3,000 people. Real Clear Politics also is using it.
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Jul 27, 2016 1:03pm
Spock;1804776 wrote:I turned on Bill Clinton for 5 minutes last night....what a horrible speaker. How can he just stand there and lie about loving HC?
He hasn't knocked the dust off that in a decade
If you sat there and watched the whole speech, as I did, you'd be very impressed by his charisma, his knack for storytelling and how he can just get a crowd worked up into tears... literally.

like_that;1804787 wrote:I think most people on either side of the aisle would agree that Bill is a great speaker. Try not coming off as a complete idiot for once.
With that being said, i heard the speech wasn't that special last night and surely wasn't better than 2012.
It actually was a great speech. If you are a person who is too young to remember much about the Clintons's run for the Presidency and then their time spent in the White House, you weren't fooled for a minute. You might actually be insulted and rightfully so.
Likewise, if you are deeply entrenched in the democrat party, what was missing from that speech doesn't really matter to you, anyway.

I suspect that the speech was constructed precisely for the latter rather than the former.
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Jul 27, 2016 1:16pm
CenterBHSFan;1804800 wrote:If you sat there and watched the whole speech, as I did, you'd be very impressed by his charisma, his knack for storytelling and how he can just get a crowd worked up into tears... literally.




It actually was a great speech. If you are a person who is too young to remember much about the Clintons's run for the Presidency and then their time spent in the White House, you weren't fooled for a minute. You might actually be insulted and rightfully so.
Likewise, if you are deeply entrenched in the democrat party, what was missing from that speech doesn't really matter to you, anyway.

I suspect that the speech was constructed precisely for the latter rather than the former.
That's the democratic way, so not surprised. I've watched a lot of old Clinton speeches and he definitely knows how to work a mic and crowd. It's impressive.
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Jul 27, 2016 1:22pm
I'm just impressed Bill didn't die during the speech. Holy fuck does he look terrible.
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Jul 27, 2016 2:11pm
QuakerOats;1804793 wrote:Yes, I do know that. But it is funny because the lame-stream media was just saying he did not get any significant bounce. They are sooooooooo in the tank for serial liar it is comical.
If Hillary is a serial liar, what is Trump? Homeboy can't even keeps his stories straight he lies too much.
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Jul 27, 2016 3:14pm
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1804804 wrote:I'm just impressed Bill didn't die during the speech.
Oh gracious no....not until Oct. 30, 2020.
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Jul 27, 2016 4:50pm
If she wins, maybe she will finally divorce him, or he dies from STD's (or some unfortunate 'incident'), then she can marry Huma in a WH ceremony, and the radical left will finally have all they wanted ............................[not].
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Jul 27, 2016 6:54pm
So Trump epic-ly trolls Clinton and the DNC - becomes the front-page, lead story on almost every major news outlet....in the middle of Hillary's coronation.
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Jul 27, 2016 7:15pm
gut;1804831 wrote:So Trump epic-ly trolls Clinton and the DNC - becomes the front-page, lead story on almost every major news outlet....in the middle of Hillary's coronation.
It also was a dumb ass comment though. Now its OMG Trump is telling Russia to commit acts of espionage on our country! He should just stfu and let wiki leaks do their thing.
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Jul 27, 2016 7:16pm
I thought it was a funny/ good comment. If there was nothing classified on her server there is no "espionage". And those calling for treason is laughable. He also only said, "if you have them" you should turn them in. He didn't actively call them to start hacking the DNC. I like him mixing it up


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Jul 27, 2016 7:36pm
like_that;1804833 wrote:It also was a dumb ass comment though.
Of course - we are, after all, still talking about Trump.

But in under 10 seconds and 30 words he blasted Hillary, the DNC, AND the media.....many panties got very bunched. Trolls across the internet universe wish they were 1/10th as good.
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Jul 27, 2016 7:46pm
gut;1804836 wrote:Of course - we are, after all, still talking about Trump.

But in under 10 seconds and 30 words he blasted Hillary, the DNC, AND the media.....many panties got very bunched. Trolls across the internet universe wish they were 1/10th as good.
Not sure if it benefits Trump. Lots of people are grasping onto the Russia narrative (still not proven its Russia) vs actually focusing on how shitty the dems are.

I do find it remarkable the dems are immediately blaming the Russians. Not a very diplomatic approach, and it won't start Hillary off the right foot when she takes office. Also, wouldn't it be more beneficial for the Russians to withhold that information to use it against Hillary as a president?
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Jul 27, 2016 7:56pm
like_that;1804837 wrote:Not sure if it benefits Trump.
Everyone is talking about emails. Everyone is talking about Trump....much more than Hillary and the DNC right now.

This isn't about winning hearts and minds. This is about energizing his base, and discouraging less enthusiastic Hillary supporters from turning out. It's quite similar, if different in execution, to the Obama 2012 playbook.

Quite honestly, the timing and execution was brilliant.
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Jul 27, 2016 7:58pm
like_that;1804837 wrote:... (still not proven its Russia) ...
Is highly confident enough evidence for you??? It sounds as if the digital fingerprint points directly to Russia.

The real question isn't if this was a State sponsored attack...namely Russian but rather rather was it just a successful part of "routine" cyber espionage or an intended hack designed to influence the election.