
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jul 26, 2016 5:29pm
I think we've had corrupt and stable for too long.sleeper;1804645 wrote:I'd rather have corrupt and stable HRC than Trump the fucking idiot.
My ONLY solace, if HRC gets elected, is that everyone ... everyone ... knows she's corrupt. Congress knows she's corrupt. Even her own party knows she's corrupt. I doubt she is able to work with Congress at all.
Frankly, I could use four years of that brand of political gridlock.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 26, 2016 5:31pm
Classic Trump supporter.Con_Alma;1804649 wrote:Glad you can have such an opinion. ... just as glad that I don't have to share in it.
MAGA!
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jul 26, 2016 5:33pm
Huh???sleeper;1804653 wrote:Classic Trump supporter.
MAGA!
He didn't get my vote in the primary and I won't be voting for him for Pres.
You ASSume lot.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 26, 2016 5:34pm
I agree. I like the idea of a political outsider uprooting the system but Trump is too big of an idiot to even give a second thought to.O-Trap;1804652 wrote:I think we've had corrupt and stable for too long.
My ONLY solace, if HRC gets elected, is that everyone ... everyone ... knows she's corrupt. Congress knows she's corrupt. Even her own party knows she's corrupt. I doubt she is able to work with Congress at all.
Frankly, I could use four years of that brand of political gridlock.
If you are voting for Trump, you are trash and you deserve everything we get from him.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 26, 2016 5:35pm
A vote for anyone other than HRC is a vote for Trump. Vote your conscience!Con_Alma;1804654 wrote:Huh???
He didn't get my vote in the primary and I won't be voting for him for Pres.
You ASSume lot.

O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jul 26, 2016 5:39pm
LOL! This sounds familiar.sleeper;1804656 wrote:A vote for anyone other than HRC is a vote for Trump. Vote your conscience!
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jul 26, 2016 5:40pm
You couldn't be more wrong in your belief of me being a Supporter of Mr. Trump. :RpS_lol:
I always vote my conscience. Trump isn't conservative enough socially for me and Ms. Clinton has little to no beliefs that represent my views. The people will collectively choose who they wish to tell the electorate they are interested in. My vote will be part of that collective but it won't be for either of those two.
I don't vote so someone will lose and I don't vote for someone who I don't wish to hold the office. I vote my conscience
I always vote my conscience. Trump isn't conservative enough socially for me and Ms. Clinton has little to no beliefs that represent my views. The people will collectively choose who they wish to tell the electorate they are interested in. My vote will be part of that collective but it won't be for either of those two.
I don't vote so someone will lose and I don't vote for someone who I don't wish to hold the office. I vote my conscience

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 26, 2016 5:41pm
Yeah, no delusional bible thumpers left in the race. Sorry!Con_Alma;1804658 wrote:You couldn't be more wrong in your belief of me being a Supporter of Mr. Trump. :RpS_lol:
I always vote my conscience. Trump isn't conservative enough socially for me and Ms. Clinton has little to no beliefs that represent my views. The people will collectively choose who they wish to tell the electorate they are interested in. My vote will be part of that collective but it won't be for either of those two.
I don't vote so someone will lose and I don't vote for someone who I don't wish to hold the office. I vote my conscience
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jul 26, 2016 5:42pm
Indeed. Lol. Same schpeel different group hanging their hat on it as a rallying cry.O-Trap;1804657 wrote:LOL! This sounds familiar.

O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jul 26, 2016 5:44pm
Thing about a third-party candidate winning, which so many people don't seem to get, is that it's likely the sort of thing that will have to gain gradually. The Libertarian candidate isn't going to go from 2% in one election to 38% in the next. There are going to be the 4%, 5%, and 10% years where the candidate will not win.sleeper;1804655 wrote:I agree. I like the idea of a political outsider uprooting the system but Trump is too big of an idiot to even give a second thought to.
If you are voting for Trump, you are trash and you deserve everything we get from him.
However, to get to the 38% (or whatever will be necessary to win the general election), you need those in-between years.
With this election, it seems like there is the least to lose. If Trump gets in office, he'll be completely inept and will resort to bullying, name-calling, and childlike temper tantrums that will make a lot of noise, but that won't accomplish anything. If Clinton gets in office, she'll be completely corrupt and will resort to some of the same, with fewer tantrums, but more intimidation. Again, it will make a lot of noise, but it will accomplish little.
This election makes it easy to vote third-party because, frankly, I don't have anything to lose.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jul 26, 2016 5:44pm
No need to apologize but it's more than a "Bible thumper" I'd like to see. In fact it doesn't necessarily even have to be a "Bible thumper".sleeper;1804659 wrote:Yeah, no delusional bible thumpers left in the race. Sorry!
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jul 26, 2016 5:48pm
Mainly I think both candidates are so awful I refuse to validate or contribute to a popular mandate for either platform. AND I think Gary Johnson and the Libertarians might finally be noticed.Con_Alma;1804662 wrote:No need to apologize but it's more than a "Bible thumper" I'd like to see. In fact it doesn't necessarily even have to be a "Bible thumper".
But if my vote actually mattered in my state, I'd vote for Hillary....because Trump is actually much worse.
Just so long as neither party controls all three branches we'll survive.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 26, 2016 5:50pm
That's pretty much my plan as well. Vote HRC and then vote for every Republican possible until 2020.gut;1804663 wrote:Mainly I think both candidates are so awful I refuse to validate or contribute to a popular mandate for either platform. AND I think Gary Johnson and the Libertarians might finally be noticed.
But if my vote actually mattered in my state, I'd vote for Hillary....because Trump is actually much worse.
Just so long as neither party controls all three branches we'll survive.

iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Jul 26, 2016 8:11pm
Lol Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin's moms are speaking at the convention tonight. Martin's didn't even have anything to do with the police. What a clown show.
And in case you forgot, Brown was assaulting a cop when shot. Pandering to minorities is apparently > facts for the democrat party.
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And in case you forgot, Brown was assaulting a cop when shot. Pandering to minorities is apparently > facts for the democrat party.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jul 26, 2016 8:20pm
LOL...someone said "the DNC has all these mothers of "slain" teens speaking....which begs the question where are the fathers?"iclfan2;1804696 wrote:Lol Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin's moms are speaking at the convention tonight. Martin's didn't even have anything to do with the police. What a clown show.
And in case you forgot, Brown was assaulting a cop when shot. Pandering to minorities is apparently > facts for the democrat party.

like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 26, 2016 8:25pm
Now Obama is crying about Russia executing the hacks for Trump. Gotta give the dems credit. They know how to come up with bullshit and get everyone to buy in within 24 hours.

iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Jul 26, 2016 8:26pm
Let's not forget they are letting Lena Dunham speak, who lies about rape and molested her sister. How the hell can anyone relate or even not be disgusted by this.
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iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Jul 26, 2016 8:31pm
Wait, I would never watch this garbage but following on Twitter, the mother of a woman who hung herself in jail now (Sandra Bland)?? They literally chose the worst "victims" parents they could think of.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jul 26, 2016 8:35pm
Was kind of hoping they'd be more creative than the entirely predictable "Russia did it to help Trump"like_that;1804699 wrote:Now Obama is crying about Russia executing the hacks for Trump. Gotta give the dems credit. They know how to come up with bullshit and get everyone to buy in within 24 hours.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jul 26, 2016 8:40pm
Being an ACTUAL victim has never been that important to the Dems.iclfan2;1804700 wrote:Let's not forget they are letting Lena Dunham speak, who lies about rape and molested her sister. How the hell can anyone relate or even not be disgusted by this.

bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jul 26, 2016 9:01pm
One convention had parents of victims of criminals on stage the other just parents of criminals. Guess which one will make headlines.
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like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 26, 2016 9:31pm
Did she really?iclfan2;1804700 wrote:Let's not forget they are letting Lena Dunham speak, who lies about rape and molested her sister. How the hell can anyone relate or even not be disgusted by this.
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iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Jul 26, 2016 9:42pm
"As National Review's Kevin Williamson highlighted in his review of the memoir, Dunham wrote "of casually masturbating while in bed next to her younger sister, of bribing her with 'three pieces of candy if I could kiss her on the lips for five seconds . . . anything a sexual predator might do to woo a small suburban girl I was trying.' At one point, when her sister is a toddler, Lena Dunham pries open her vagina — 'my curiosity got the best of me'..."like_that;1804715 wrote:Did she really?
In that same memoir, the feminist claims to have been raped by a mysterious “Republican” on campus whom she has refused to name; this has led many to believe this cry of rape may have been a hoax."
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SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 26, 2016 10:29pm
Yeah I first heard of the Lena Dunham sister thing a few weeks ago on Reddit. Shit is fucked up.

bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jul 26, 2016 10:34pm
Whoa
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