majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Jul 25, 2016 5:47pm
I know he did not foresee the email thing but why not stick to your guns. Absent this email thing Hillary did not need his endorsement to get the nomination. I think this sets his movement back.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1804360 wrote:Agreed. And there was also no way he was going to be the nomination
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 25, 2016 5:49pm
Or most adults who aren't in denial would realize he sold out just like any typical politician. I have a hard time believing this momentum is carried to the next election cycles, especially after this. I think there is a better chance of the libertarian movement getting stronger.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1804362 wrote:Why would I be? Most adults understand what's at stake.
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Jul 25, 2016 5:52pm
Most adults are going to vote for the corrupt bought and paid for corporate shill or the narcissistic charlatan.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1804362 wrote:Why would I be? Most adults understand what's at stake.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 25, 2016 5:53pm
Most adults understand that worst case scenario Trump is 4 years of disaster.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1804362 wrote:Why would I be? Most adults understand what's at stake.
Bernie sold out; he's supposed movement is tainted. If Bernie really cared about the movement, he would have not endorsed the corrupt Clinton and continued the movement in the future. He sold out.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jul 25, 2016 5:55pm
like_that;1804364 wrote:Or most adults who aren't in denial would realize he sold out just like any typical politician. I have a hard time believing this momentum is carried to the next election cycles, especially after this. I think there is a better chance of the libertarian movement getting stronger.
Why are you expecting people to act like they just found out there's not a Santa Claus lol. Bernie ran a campaign and lost and doesn't want an ego maniacal xenophobe to win. It's as simple as that.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jul 25, 2016 5:56pm
And most adults don't want those 4 years. It's tough I know.sleeper;1804367 wrote:Most adults understand that worst case scenario Trump is 4 years of disaster.
Bernie sold out; he's supposed movement is tainted. If Bernie really cared about the movement, he would have not endorsed the corrupt Clinton and continued the movement in the future. He sold out.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 25, 2016 6:00pm
I just figured he would have more pride than that. ESPECIALLY after DWS became an immediate member of Hillary's campaign team. I guess there is no pride.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1804368 wrote:Why are you expecting people to act like they just found out there's not a Santa Claus lol. Bernie ran a campaign and lost and doesn't want an ego maniacal xenophobe to win. It's as simple as that.
Would you do the same? Would you want your kid to do the same? I was not brought up that way, that is for sure. Cruz is a whacko slimeball, but at least he had enough pride to tell Trump to fuck off with his endorsement.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jul 25, 2016 6:03pm
Of course I'd do the same. Because I'd rather have Hillary than trump. Just as Bernie would rather have Hillary than trump. It's not a tough decision. Maybe Cruz would rather have Hillary too? Sure seems that way.like_that;1804370 wrote:I just figured he would have more pride than that. ESPECIALLY after DWS became an immediate member of Hillary's campaign team. I guess there is no pride.
Would you do the same? Would you want your kid to do the same? I was not brought up that way, that is for sure. Cruz is a whacko slimeball, but at least he had enough pride to tell Trump to fuck off with his endorsement.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 25, 2016 6:13pm
Then I guess you have no pride.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1804371 wrote:Of course I'd do the same. Because I'd rather have Hillary than trump. Just as Bernie would rather have Hillary than trump. It's not a tough decision. Maybe Cruz would rather have Hillary too? Sure seems that way.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jul 25, 2016 6:16pm
like_that;1804372 wrote:Then I guess you have no pride.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 25, 2016 6:33pm
Zwick is a pathetic person. Plain and simple.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jul 25, 2016 7:22pm
OF COURSE there's a Santa Claus....he looks like an eagle and comes the first of every month.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1804368 wrote:Why are you expecting people to act like they just found out there's not a Santa Claus lol.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jul 25, 2016 7:26pm
Cruz' ambition is rivaled only by Hillary. He intended for that to be his "Reagan moment" launching his 2020 campaign. Nothing to do with integrity or pride, and purely a calculated move that Trump will lose and then Cruz would be positioned to come in and pick-up the pieces.like_that;1804370 wrote: Cruz is a whacko slimeball, but at least he had enough pride to tell Trump to fuck off with his endorsement.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jul 25, 2016 7:29pm
16 years of shitty leadership - what's 4 more? Trump blowing up both parties and inspiring nationwide butthurt isn't the worst scenario.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 25, 2016 8:01pm
Fair. I will use Kasich as an example then (or insert any other candidate that didn't show up to the convention).gut;1804387 wrote:Cruz' ambition is rivaled only by Hillary. He intended for that to be his "Reagan moment" launching his 2020 campaign. Nothing to do with integrity or pride, and purely a calculated move that Trump will lose and then Cruz would be positioned to come in and pick-up the pieces.
That would be the one consolation to Trump winning. Especially if the crybabies who threaten to move to Canada actually move.gut;1804388 wrote:16 years of shitty leadership - what's 4 more? Trump blowing up both parties and inspiring nationwide butthurt isn't the worst scenario.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jul 25, 2016 8:19pm
Kasich IS the establishment. Cruz bet on himself and by looks of recent polls has committed political suicide.
Bernie chose life over adding to the Clinton body count.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Jul 25, 2016 9:17pm
I'd argue it's been 20 years. Bill's second term was shitty leadership.gut;1804388 wrote:16 years of shitty leadership - what's 4 more? Trump blowing up both parties and inspiring nationwide butthurt isn't the worst scenario.
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Jul 25, 2016 9:26pm
i just flipped on the DNC......Sara Silverman??? WTF are you doing? "Bernie fans, you are being ridiculous".
Then they roll out Paul Simon.......he sounds like garbage.
Then they roll out Paul Simon.......he sounds like garbage.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Jul 25, 2016 9:27pm
Lmao @ the DNC playing "Bridge Over Troubled Waters" for their theme song.
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Jul 25, 2016 9:37pm
Now Eva Longoria Texas was part of Mexico and the border crossed them. Yikes.
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Jul 25, 2016 9:41pm
why is Cory Booker yelling?
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jul 25, 2016 9:56pm
Because he's an angry black man....unlike the angry white men who were yelling at the RNC.Spock;1804402 wrote:why is Cory Booker yelling?
LOL, seriously Corey Booker is pretty damn good and this is a great speech.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Jul 25, 2016 9:59pm
He's the real deal...definately a player in 2020/24.gut;1804404 wrote:Because he's an angry black man....unlike the angry white men who were yelling at the RNC.
LOL, seriously Corey Booker is pretty damn good and this is a great speech.
Pretty solid meltdown by Sarah Silverman, though. :laugh:
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jul 25, 2016 10:06pm
Michelle needs to troll Trump by plagiarizing part of Melania's speech
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 25, 2016 10:25pm
CNN is so far up Obama/Michelle/Hillary's ass...the dude was just fucking crying FFS.