sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 25, 2016 4:36pm
She's doing everything possible to make it an actual race instead of a blow out in her favor.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1804330 wrote:The oddest thing to me is how much Hillary DGAF. Hires wauserman who just resigned for coercion. Takes Kain who about as unimpactfull as you can get. It's like she doesn't think this is even a race. And I would have agreed before... But Jesus Christ woman ...
At this point, a president Trump is a real possibility. Incredible.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 25, 2016 4:38pm
Perhaps place some of the blame on Bernie too for being a *****.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1804324 wrote:Bernie booed by his own supporters for still endorsing Hillary. Only the DNC could fuck up something this simple as beating trump lol
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jul 25, 2016 4:38pm
I never would have thought it, but it is.sleeper;1804333 wrote:She's doing everything possible to make it an actual race instead of a blow out in her favor.
At this point, a president Trump is a real possibility. Incredible.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jul 25, 2016 4:40pm
Bernie speaking out does nothing but hands Trump the election. Which is he last thing he wants. Not sure why you don't get that? It doesn't get him the nomination. It doesn't get him on any ballot. It hands trump the election.like_that;1804334 wrote:Perhaps place some of the blame on Bernie too for being a *****.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jul 25, 2016 4:46pm
Bernie speaking out and handing Donald the election ensures an "accident" in his near future.
This guy was about to blow the whistle. https://heatst.com/politics/dnc-staffer-seth-rich-shot-dead-conspiracy-theories/
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This guy was about to blow the whistle. https://heatst.com/politics/dnc-staffer-seth-rich-shot-dead-conspiracy-theories/
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like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 25, 2016 4:48pm
So he comes to heel? Got it. He shouldn't have made the endorsement to begin with. He could easily pull the endorsement and campaign against trump as well. Not all GOP candidates have endorsed trump. Really is not that difficult. As I said before don't sore this revolution bullshit and then come to heel to the same establishment you were revolting against. I gotta give Bernie supporters credit. I am surprised they aren't as dumb as Bernie and the dems thought they were. They so far seem to be seeing right thru the bullshit.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1804336 wrote:Bernie speaking out does nothing but hands Trump the election. Which is he last thing he wants. Not sure why you don't get that? It doesn't get him the nomination. It doesn't get him on any ballot. It hands trump the election.
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Jul 25, 2016 4:50pm
What has Trump done in the last year that indicates he is capable of making smart political decisions in any way? Just about everything he's done publicly has been poorly thought out or poorly executed. Every time he speaks it makes me cringe to think someone else in the world thinks of America this way.Spock;1804331 wrote:A actual non politician in the white house that may actually make smart decisions where he isnt worried about the next election?
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Jul 25, 2016 4:51pm
I have voted primarily for conservatives in the past, but Trump will be a fucking disaster of a leader.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 25, 2016 4:54pm
Trump won't be a disaster. That's hyperbole.GOONx19;1804341 wrote:I have voted primarily for conservatives in the past, but Trump will be a fucking disaster of a leader.
It's more like trump just won't get anything done. If trump wins, IMO, he'll be one of the least productive presidents of all time. But he won't start world wars and build thousand foot walls on the Mexican border like the sky is falling media will have you believe.
I don't want Trump as president because I don't think he'll be a very good president. I don't think he'll make the world and country crumble though.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jul 25, 2016 4:57pm
International relations is the only thing that really worries me if Trump wins. We're fucked regardless, I'm just along for the ride at this point.
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Jul 25, 2016 4:59pm
I don't think he will make anything crumble. I don't think he will start wars or build walls. I do think he will significantly harm our reputation among other world nations, and I think that makes him a shitty leader.SportsAndLady;1804342 wrote:Trump won't be a disaster. That's hyperbole.
It's more like trump just won't get anything done. If trump wins, IMO, he'll be one of the least productive presidents of all time. But he won't start world wars and build thousand foot walls on the Mexican border like the sky is falling media will have you believe.
I don't want Trump as president because I don't think he'll be a very good president. I don't think he'll make the world and country crumble though.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jul 25, 2016 5:08pm
Reputation among world leaders? Are you paying attention? It's a shit show. We need to lead not worry about our reputation.
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ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jul 25, 2016 5:10pm
Again... I think you're underestimating what his support means to beat Trump. Without his supporters, trump wins.like_that;1804339 wrote:So he comes to heel? Got it. He shouldn't have made the endorsement to begin with. He could easily pull the endorsement and campaign against trump as well. Not all GOP candidates have endorsed trump. Really is not that difficult. As I said before don't sore this revolution bullshit and then come to heel to the same establishment you were revolting against. I gotta give Bernie supporters credit. I am surprised they aren't as dumb as Bernie and the dems thought they were. They so far seem to be seeing right thru the bullshit.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 25, 2016 5:22pm
Maybe I am, but based on poll numbers (most of his supporters are moving to Johnson or Stein, hillary has a low count, and trump very low) and the current reaction to him it doesn't look like he made the right bet with endorsing Hillary.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1804346 wrote:Again... I think you're underestimating what his support means to beat Trump. Without his supporters, trump wins.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 25, 2016 5:22pm
I think his supporters are confused by a guy who campaigned against Clinton on the issue of money in politics and then turns around and endorses the candidate who is the pinnacle of money in politics.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1804346 wrote:Again... I think you're underestimating what his support means to beat Trump. Without his supporters, trump wins.
Trump may be a lot of things, but he's not bought. I find the irony amusing.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jul 25, 2016 5:25pm
He's also everything a progressive is against. And who are Bernie supporters?sleeper;1804348 wrote:I think his supporters are confused by a guy who campaigned against Clinton on the issue of money in politics and then turns around and endorses the candidate who is the pinnacle of money in politics.
Trump may be a lot of things, but he's not bought. I find the irony amusing.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jul 25, 2016 5:31pm
Who? Plenty are. I'm not sure what you are asking.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1804350 wrote:He's also everything a progressive is against. And who are Bernie supporters?
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jul 25, 2016 5:32pm
Majority are progressives.sleeper;1804352 wrote:Who? Plenty are. I'm not sure what you are asking.
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Jul 25, 2016 5:40pm
If Bernie would not have sold out, with this email shit proving he got the shaft, if 489 of Hillary's 602 super delegates believe Hillary stands a good chance of loosing to Trump it would not have been impossible at the convention for him to get the nomination. Bernie started a fire and he can't put it out.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1804336 wrote:Bernie speaking out does nothing but hands Trump the election. Which is he last thing he wants. Not sure why you don't get that? It doesn't get him the nomination. It doesn't get him on any ballot. It hands trump the election.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jul 25, 2016 5:40pm
He probably didn't. But he made the only play possible to beat trump.like_that;1804347 wrote:Maybe I am, but based on poll numbers (most of his supporters are moving to Johnson or Stein, hillary has a low count, and trump very low) and the current reaction to him it doesn't look like he made the right bet with endorsing Hillary.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jul 25, 2016 5:41pm
Lol there was 0% chance of Bernie stealing the nomination at the convention. Get real.majorspark;1804354 wrote:If Bernie would not have sold out, with this email shit proving he got the shaft, if 489 of Hillary's 602 super delegates believe Hillary stands a good chance of loosing to Trump it would not have been impossible at the convention for him to get the nomination. Bernie started a fire and he can't put it out.
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Jul 25, 2016 5:42pm
If he were the nominee he would have beat Trump. Now he has sold out.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1804355 wrote:He probably didn't. But he made the only play possible to beat trump.
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Jul 25, 2016 5:43pm
Are you still upset Bernie has sold out? I thought he had a revolution going.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1804357 wrote:Lol there was 0% chance of Bernie stealing the nomination at the convention. Get real.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jul 25, 2016 5:43pm
Agreed. And there was also no way he was going to be the nominationmajorspark;1804359 wrote:If he were the nominee he would have beat Trump. Now he has sold out.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jul 25, 2016 5:47pm
Why would I be? Most adults understand what's at stake.majorspark;1804361 wrote:Are you still upset Bernie has sold out? I thought he had a revolution going.