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Sep 28, 2016 11:29 AM
Trump is walking a very tight path to the white house and I just don't see the numbers working out. First he'll need record turnout amount white voters as that seems to be the only group he does well with and he'll have to count on majority of the white vote being rural white males as he struggles or at best splits groups like white females or college educated whites. I just don't see that being enough to push him over the top. I still think it will be historically close but given that the groups that favor Clinton are heavily concentrated on the west coast, northeast, and great lakes (states with a lot of electoral votes) I don't see a way forward for Trump just based on the electoral math. I even anticipate him flipping Ohio and Florida but the block of "always blue" states will still give her an edge. I am going to amend my previous guess though and say 272-266
Sep 28, 2016 11:29am
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Sep 28, 2016 11:42 AM
Trump is at capacity at his black church visits...Hillary is drawing 25%. He needs to continue to remind the blacks how forgotten they are for 3 and 1/2 years by the Democrats.
Sep 28, 2016 11:42am
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Sep 28, 2016 11:46 AM
bases_loaded;1812997 wrote:Trump is at capacity at his black church visits...Hillary is drawing 25%. He needs to continue to remind the blacks how forgotten they are for 3 and 1/2 years by the Democrats.

Bernie killed Hillary in rallies too.. How'd that work out for him.
Sep 28, 2016 11:46am
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Sep 28, 2016 11:55 AM
bases_loaded;1812987 wrote:You are better than that. Everyday joes aren't the ones donating millions to Hillary. It's Wall Street, Silicon Valley, and any other Billionaire that risks losing the grip they have on the middle class donating to Hillary.
I wonder if anyone with an IQ above room temperature actually believes the "Real, hard-working people support our candidate; out of touch fat-cats support their candidate" rhetoric that always comes up despite how the barest application of logic dictates that both sides are supported by people from virtually all walks of life.
Sep 28, 2016 11:55am
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Sep 28, 2016 12:04 PM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1812999 wrote:Bernie killed Hillary in rallies too.. How'd that work out for him.
The DNC was never letting that happen.
Sep 28, 2016 12:04pm
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Sep 28, 2016 12:08 PM
Automatik;1812944 wrote:lol
Although the wording of it makes him sound like a moron, I agree with the general concept he was talking about.

Corporate tax rates are too high to be competitive and that's why companies spend money building a financial teams to evade taxes LEGALLY. This gives larger corporations an advantage because small companies can't afford that kind of overhead.

I'd support dropping the corporate income tax rate to 20%. It won't stop the problem entirely but it will diminish on the margin the ROI for companies to evade their owed taxes.
Sep 28, 2016 12:08pm
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Sep 28, 2016 12:23 PM
Heretic;1813000 wrote:I wonder if anyone with an IQ above room temperature actually believes the "Real, hard-working people support our candidate; out of touch fat-cats support their candidate" rhetoric that always comes up despite how the barest application of logic dictates that both sides are supported by people from virtually all walks of life.
I provided the list. Normally the two people standing on stage are bought and sold by all walks of life. This time we have someone who is bought and sold and has been for 30 years against someone who used to do the buying. The DNC is really grasping with their attacks as well. The poster girl for their Trump is a bully to women take was a huge piece of shit. If he was such a bigot I'm sure you could find someone better to prop up other than murder getaway driver-porn star. The other straw man was the bogus lawsuit where Trump's company was sued for selling property for more money rather than making it section 8 housing. I talk with small business owners daily, most of them not racists...they are voting for Trump.
Sep 28, 2016 12:23pm
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Sep 28, 2016 1:52 PM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1812983 wrote:but...but.. people are tired of lying career politicians; thats why theyre donating..

donating to.. lying career politicians at a much larger rate?
The funny thing about this is...

Trump is being FAR outspent yet he's getting more coverage. He's getting billiions and billions of dollars just from the network news coverages. Trump has actually been going around to different areas and at times, actually helping people out and giving a damn - instead of sending out a tweet about it lol

There's the difference and why. You know this.
Sep 28, 2016 1:52pm
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Sep 28, 2016 1:55 PM
CenterBHSFan;1813010 wrote:The funny thing about this is...

Trump is being FAR outspent yet he's getting more coverage. He's getting billiions and billions of dollars just from the network news coverages. Trump has actually been going around to different areas and at times, actually helping people out and giving a damn - instead of sending out a tweet about it lol

There's the difference and why. You know this.
oh stop it. Trump gets coverage b/c he's a train wreck and everybody loves watching a train wreck. I can't wait for November for this train wreck to be over. Thanks Republicans.
Sep 28, 2016 1:55pm
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Sep 28, 2016 2:17 PM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1812999 wrote:Bernie killed Hillary in rallies too.. How'd that work out for him.
He was taken out at the knees by the DNC conspiracy, as the emails reflect.
Sep 28, 2016 2:17pm
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Sep 28, 2016 2:28 PM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1813012 wrote:oh stop it. Trump gets coverage b/c he's a train wreck and everybody loves watching a train wreck. I can't wait for November for this train wreck to be over. Thanks Republicans.
That train wreck has been more presidential than the sitting President and the anointed one with about every major crisis that has hit this country the last year and he's doing it on his dime. People are noticing, they may not wear the hats, shirts, or share the posts, but they are paying attention.
Sep 28, 2016 2:28pm
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Sep 28, 2016 2:36 PM
I'm changing my vote to Hillary. Katy Perry got "naked" and voted. So did Madonna...oh and fake White House people are touring Ohio for her. The amount of time/money spent pandering to those already voting for her is absurd.
Sep 28, 2016 2:36pm
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Sep 28, 2016 2:40 PM
bases_loaded;1813015 wrote:I'm changing my vote to Hillary. Katy Perry got "naked" and voted. So did Madonna...oh and fake White House people are touring Ohio for her. The amount of time/money spent pandering to those already voting for her is absurd.
A good choice. HRC will be a good corrupt President.

It's what the GOP deserves after nominating the complete embarrassment that is Donald Trump.
Sep 28, 2016 2:40pm
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Sep 28, 2016 2:43 PM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1813012 wrote:oh stop it. Trump gets coverage b/c he's a train wreck and everybody loves watching a train wreck. I can't wait for November for this train wreck to be over. Thanks Republicans.

Everything that I said was a fact. The one fact that could be wrong is that "you know this". Maybe you didn't know.
Sep 28, 2016 2:43pm
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Sep 28, 2016 2:47 PM
sleeper;1813016 wrote:A good choice. HRC will be a good corrupt President.

It's what the GOP deserves after nominating the complete embarrassment that is Donald Trump.
On second thought, I'm voting Gary Johnson unless Katy Perry pops a real tit out.
Sep 28, 2016 2:47pm
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Sep 28, 2016 3:06 PM
sleeper;1813016 wrote:A good choice. HRC will be a good corrupt President.

It's what the GOP deserves after nominating the complete embarrassment that is Donald Trump.
As you know, the crossovers and independents put Trump over the top, not the GOP. But that's ok, Trump may save the GOP from itself and other establishment elites, by saving the country from completely going over the cliff.
Sep 28, 2016 3:06pm
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Sep 28, 2016 4:11 PM
Independent here. Trump has done absolutely nothing to sway my vote and I was hoping to vote R this time around to keep Hillary out.
Sep 28, 2016 4:11pm
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Sep 28, 2016 4:16 PM
Automatik;1813025 wrote:Independent here. Trump has done absolutely nothing to sway my vote and I was hoping to vote R this time around to keep Hillary out.
Same here. I'd vote for almost anyone to keep HRC out of office except for Donald Trump(probably Cruz too if I'm being honest).

Actually if it was Cruz, I'd vote Johnson but since it's Trump, I'll happily vote for HRC knowing it will keep the clown out of office.
Sep 28, 2016 4:16pm
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Sep 28, 2016 4:29 PM
At this rate it really is not going to matter. It looks like the GOP might even hold the senate and in 2018 they are favored to gain more seats as they aren't defending many seats. So basically we are going to see more of the same shit, except this time be accused of being sexist if we criticize Hillary for not working with congress. The GOP will also continue not to learn their lesson. Both parties are very weak. The dems can't even take control of congress and have lost over 900+ state legislative seats since Obama took over. They are just as flawed as the GOP, but that is always overshadowed by the GOP's ineptness during presidential elections.
Sep 28, 2016 4:29pm
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Sep 28, 2016 4:34 PM
like_that;1813035 wrote:At this rate it really is not going to matter. It looks like the GOP might even hold the senate and in 2018 they are favored to gain more seats as they aren't defending many seats. So basically we are going to see more of the same shit, except this time be accused of being sexist if we criticize Hillary for not working with congress. The GOP will also continue not to learn their lesson. Both parties are very weak. The dems can't even take control of congress and have lost over 900+ state legislative seats since Obama took over. They are just as flawed as the GOP, but that is always overshadowed by the GOP's ineptness during presidential elections.
It's an almost guarantee that we will have a GOP lead Congress for the foreseeable future. I doubt HRC gets anything done which is why I'm rationalized that its okay to vote for her.
Sep 28, 2016 4:34pm
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Sep 28, 2016 4:46 PM
GOP has 4 years to revamp and get with the fucking times. Let's hope it happens.

I'll be surprised if Hillary can make it 4 years in office. 8? I highly doubt it.
Sep 28, 2016 4:46pm