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BoatShoes

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Apr 21, 2016 4:30 PM
Wolves of Babylon;1792430 wrote:This should have been a slam dunk win for the Republicans against Hilary, but the nominee is Trump.

Donald Trump vs Hilary ... smh

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Pretty incredible, really.
Apr 21, 2016 12:30pm
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BoatShoes

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Apr 21, 2016 4:35 PM
ptown_trojans_1;1792393 wrote:Well Trump destroyed last night. pretty much wiping out everything Cruz has did the last month.
Math wise, Cruz cannot get to 1237. After next week, looking at the polls, Trump should sweep the states, further adding to his total.
It is possible he clinches 1237 in June.

I've accepted he is now the R nominee.
Unless there are some crazy upsets, he will either get really close, or clinch in June.
Only way to stop him at this point is the party just saying "fuck you" to the voters with convention rule shenanigans. Dems did in 1968. The Cuyahoga will burn again!
Apr 21, 2016 12:35pm
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BoatShoes

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Apr 21, 2016 4:41 PM
fish82;1790931 wrote:I think there's a difference between just being "stupid," and being "intellectually lazy."

Yes, it's a stupid thing to do, but I don't think that necessarily equates to the person actually being stupid. (Although I'm sure there are no shortage of cases where it does, LOL)
A lot of people just aren't that into politics at all and just vote with their subtle biases.
Apr 21, 2016 12:41pm
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HitsRus

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9,206 posts
Apr 22, 2016 7:47 PM
BoatShoes;1792672 wrote:A lot of people just aren't that into politics at all and just vote with their subtle biases.
people seem more concerned about having a right to vote, than in actually exercising that right responsibly. I am amazed at the number of single issue voters there are.....and a lot of these issues are just not very important in the scheme of things.
Apr 22, 2016 3:47pm
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queencitybuckeye

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Apr 23, 2016 1:10 PM
HitsRus;1792865 wrote:people seem more concerned about having a right to vote, than in actually exercising that right responsibly. I am amazed at the number of single issue voters there are.....and a lot of these issues are just not very important in the scheme of things.
Like what bathroom people go to, or (GASP!) abortion.
Apr 23, 2016 9:10am
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QuakerOats

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Apr 26, 2016 6:23 PM
We'll see; he may come up about 80 short, but there would be a mini-revolution if they try to screw with him. Everybody needs to suck it up and get behind him because there is an awful lot at stake over the next 4-8 years.
Apr 26, 2016 2:23pm
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Crimson streak

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Apr 26, 2016 6:31 PM
Just put in my vote for trump on the pa primary. At this point might as well rally behind him, better than Hillary


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Apr 26, 2016 2:31pm
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ptown_trojans_1

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Apr 26, 2016 6:38 PM
QuakerOats;1793401 wrote:We'll see; he may come up about 80 short, but there would be a mini-revolution if they try to screw with him. Everybody needs to suck it up and get behind him because there is an awful lot at stake over the next 4-8 years.
Doubt it. All the numbers and polls have him rolling over 1237.
Apr 26, 2016 2:38pm
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Al Bundy

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Apr 26, 2016 7:31 PM
ptown_trojans_1;1793407 wrote:Doubt it. All the numbers and polls have him rolling over 1237.
Has the rules committee even set 1237 as the magic number for the 2016 convention yet? I know the media is using the old data, but rules normally change for each convention.
Apr 26, 2016 3:31pm
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Wolves of Babylon

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Apr 26, 2016 7:36 PM
QuakerOats;1793401 wrote:We'll see; he may come up about 80 short, but there would be a mini-revolution if they try to screw with him. Everybody needs to suck it up and get behind him because there is an awful lot at stake over the next 4-8 years.
Do you honestly in your heart and mind think Trump could beat Hilary?

I don't and we will be left Hilary Clinton which is a nightmare.

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Apr 26, 2016 3:36pm
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ptown_trojans_1

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Apr 26, 2016 7:42 PM
Al Bundy;1793415 wrote:Has the rules committee even set 1237 as the magic number for the 2016 convention yet? I know the media is using the old data, but rules normally change for each convention.
The Convention, no, obviously, but the RNC has stated those have been the targets since last year.
Changing the 1237 number now only plays right into Trump's argument that the system is rigged.

If Trump hits 1237, there is no way the RNC can deny him the nomination. There would be a revolt on the floor.
Apr 26, 2016 3:42pm
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HitsRus

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Apr 27, 2016 11:28 AM
Trump closes to within 200 delegates. :cry:
Apr 27, 2016 7:28am
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Fab4Runner

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Apr 27, 2016 1:11 PM
Can't wait for at least four years of Hillary. Thanks, Trumpeters!
Apr 27, 2016 9:11am
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4cards

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Apr 27, 2016 8:25 PM
...Cruz is going to name Carly Fiorna has his running mate. I like Carly because of her business savvy and her toughness but I doubt it will change the outcome of Trump winning the Republican nomination. As far as Hillary being the next president, I think she's in for tough go with the dirt she's going to have to explain & may be forced to set aside amid all the scandals she's embroiled in.
Apr 27, 2016 4:25pm
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SportsAndLady

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Apr 27, 2016 8:35 PM
Lol that is such an awful move.
Apr 27, 2016 4:35pm
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sleeper

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Apr 27, 2016 8:39 PM
Yeah, what? Fiorina isn't as bad as Palin, but what a dumb move.
Apr 27, 2016 4:39pm
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sleeper

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Apr 27, 2016 8:40 PM
4cards;1793627 wrote:...Cruz is going to name Carly Fiorna has his running mate. I like Carly because of her business savvy and her toughness but I doubt it will change the outcome of Trump winning the Republican nomination. As far as Hillary being the next president, I think she's in for tough go with the dirt she's going to have to explain & may be forced to set aside amid all the scandals she's embroiled in.
She will have a tough go but I'd still bet on her to win the Presidency. Trump will hammer her repeatedly in the debates but I'm not sure it'll matter much in the national polls.
Apr 27, 2016 4:40pm
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ptown_trojans_1

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Apr 27, 2016 8:40 PM
Yeah, not a good move. Seems desperate, cause it is.

Trump picked up 33 Penn Delegates, giving him 987 total.
Trump now has a majority of the delegates awarded so far. He has to win just 48 percent of the remaining delegates to clinch the nomination and avoid a contested convention.

His speech today was also just full of contradictions and is a sharp departure from the R policy of the last 16 years.
Apr 27, 2016 4:40pm
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iclfan2

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Apr 27, 2016 8:42 PM
The only states that matter are Indiana and California. And if the RNC changes the rules or not. Do not like the fiorina pick at all.


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Apr 27, 2016 4:42pm
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ptown_trojans_1

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May 2, 2016 3:02 PM
Given Rasmussen's awful record, and right leaning, I wouldn't take those results too likely. Rasmussen was incredibly off in 2012.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/10/which-polls-fared-best-and-worst-in-the-2012-presidential-race/
May 2, 2016 11:02am
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ptown_trojans_1

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May 2, 2016 3:05 PM
Fivethirtyeight lists Trump has a 69% chance of winning Indiana. Their polls plus marker I think has been accurate on pretty much every state.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/indiana-republican/

If that holds, the race is over. Trump would hit 1237 with a win in Cal.
May 2, 2016 11:05am
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fish82

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May 2, 2016 6:25 PM
ptown_trojans_1;1794498 wrote:Given Rasmussen's awful record, and right leaning, I wouldn't take those results too likely. Rasmussen was incredibly off in 2012.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/10/which-polls-fared-best-and-worst-in-the-2012-presidential-race/
Everyone was off to some extent in 2012.

Rasmussen's record over their history is actually pretty damn good.
May 2, 2016 2:25pm