
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Oct 20, 2016 5:45pm
Do you think everything is running great with the WR/passing game? See no flaws?SportsAndLady;1817496 wrote:No he's not. He wants urban to completely change how he recruits WR's. Lol

Benny The Jet
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Oct 20, 2016 5:49pm
wildcats20;1817498 wrote:Oh and if Urban isn't getting the "polished" high school receivers, who is?
Alabama, A&M, Oklahoma, Clemson.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 20, 2016 6:40pm
There are flaws but nothing that makes me want to change WR recruiting.Benny The Jet;1817501 wrote:Do you think everything is running great with the WR/passing game? See no flaws?
I think the team is extremely young and talented; and with route running being the 'NFL' skill, it takes time to develop. I'm confident that Urban Meyer will get it figured out.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 20, 2016 6:40pm
I'll take any of OSU's WR over these teams.Benny The Jet;1817502 wrote:Alabama, A&M, Oklahoma, Clemson.

Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Oct 20, 2016 7:40pm
Thanks for the solid input, appreciate it. However, I'd take Mike Williams, Steven Ridley, and Christian Kirk and Speedy Noil, Reynolds in a hearbeat.sleeper;1817509 wrote:There are flaws but nothing that makes me want to change WR recruiting.
I think the team is extremely young and talented; and with route running being the 'NFL' skill, it takes time to develop. I'm confident that Urban Meyer will get it figured out.

Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Oct 20, 2016 9:10pm
In non-WR news, announced Booker is playing this week aye being out since game 1. Listed as Co-starter with Baker

FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Oct 20, 2016 9:23pm
Just for comparison, here are the top 5 receivers for OSU, Bama and aTmBenny The Jet;1817512 wrote:Thanks for the solid input, appreciate it. However, I'd take Mike Williams, Steven Ridley, and Christian Kirk and Speedy Noil, Reynolds in a hearbeat.
OSU
1 C SAMUEL. 403 YARDS
2 D WILSON 232 YARDS
3 N BROWN 213 YARDS
4 M BAUGH 100 YARDS
5 P CAMPBELL 75 YARDS
BAMA (7 games)
1 C RIDLEY 477 YARDS
2 A STEWART 379 YARDS
3 O HOWARD 209 YARDS
4 G DIETER 175 YARDS
5 J JACOBS 85 YARDS
aTm
1 J REYNOLDS 458 YARDS
2 C KIRK 352 YARDS
3 R SEALS-JONES 175 YARDS
4 J TABAYO 149 YARDS
5 S NOIL 116 YARDS
OSU averages 216 passing and 300 rushing. They are 106/167 63.5% throwing and have run 299 times.
Bama averages 258 passing and 274 rushing. They are 133/207 64.3% throwing and have run 298 times.
aTm averages 239 passing and 265 rushing. They are 239/265 53.3% throwing and have run 242 times
If you want to compare offenses, I think it's safe to say we are a run first offense, and sometimes we fall in love with Curtis Samuel (and he is pretty good) and we have inexperienced wide receivers outside on Wilson. Bama and aTm definitely throw the ball more than OSU does so their wide receivers have more opportunity to catch the ball this year.
I wish ESPN tracked targets for college wide receivers like they do pro wide receivers so we could see if it was a lack of catching the ball or a lack of opportunity.

mcburg93
Posts: 3,167
Oct 21, 2016 9:36am
I think for it really to reflect how the receivers are doing, you would have to know how many times Jt was set up to pass and no one was open so he ran. If he passed every time he was suppose to, the pass/rush would probably be a little closer. It is hard to know for sure of those numbers since we do not have anyway of knowing what play was called in each situation.FatHobbit;1817535 wrote:Just for comparison, here are the top 5 receivers for OSU, Bama and aTm
OSU
1 C SAMUEL. 403 YARDS
2 D WILSON 232 YARDS
3 N BROWN 213 YARDS
4 M BAUGH 100 YARDS
5 P CAMPBELL 75 YARDS
BAMA (7 games)
1 C RIDLEY 477 YARDS
2 A STEWART 379 YARDS
3 O HOWARD 209 YARDS
4 G DIETER 175 YARDS
5 J JACOBS 85 YARDS
aTm
1 J REYNOLDS 458 YARDS
2 C KIRK 352 YARDS
3 R SEALS-JONES 175 YARDS
4 J TABAYO 149 YARDS
5 S NOIL 116 YARDS
OSU averages 216 passing and 300 rushing. They are 106/167 63.5% throwing and have run 299 times.
Bama averages 258 passing and 274 rushing. They are 133/207 64.3% throwing and have run 298 times.
aTm averages 239 passing and 265 rushing. They are 239/265 53.3% throwing and have run 242 times
If you want to compare offenses, I think it's safe to say we are a run first offense, and sometimes we fall in love with Curtis Samuel (and he is pretty good) and we have inexperienced wide receivers outside on Wilson. Bama and aTm definitely throw the ball more than OSU does so their wide receivers have more opportunity to catch the ball this year.
I wish ESPN tracked targets for college wide receivers like they do pro wide receivers so we could see if it was a lack of catching the ball or a lack of opportunity.

Benny The Jet
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Oct 21, 2016 9:59am
Good point. Maybe it has something to do with the heavy rotation of WR that there isn't a good connection with 1 specific group of 3 guys. Would like to see something like Brown outside, Samuel in slot who can motion into backfield when needed, and then 1 other (Paris maybe?) get like 80% of the plays...vs. swapping in and out constantly. Heavy rotation could also be due to still looking for the right guy, who knows.mcburg93;1817589 wrote:I think for it really to reflect how the receivers are doing, you would have to know how many times Jt was set up to pass and no one was open so he ran. If he passed every time he was suppose to, the pass/rush would probably be a little closer. It is hard to know for sure of those numbers since we do not have anyway of knowing what play was called in each situation.

FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Oct 21, 2016 10:17am
This article says JT was pretty good against the badgers
http://ohiostate.247sports.com/Bolt/Barrett-was-better-than-most-think-in-beating-Badgers-48380265
http://ohiostate.247sports.com/Bolt/Barrett-was-better-than-most-think-in-beating-Badgers-48380265

Benny The Jet
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Oct 21, 2016 10:55am
So after reading that article...it sounds like they're putting most of the miscues and in-completions on the WR, no?FatHobbit;1817600 wrote:This article says JT was pretty good against the badgers
http://ohiostate.247sports.com/Bolt/Barrett-was-better-than-most-think-in-beating-Badgers-48380265

mcburg93
Posts: 3,167
Oct 21, 2016 11:26am
The article did place all the blame on the WRs. I am confident we can win every game up to the Meatchicken game with the way we are playing. I think if we dont get some improvement from the receivers we might have some trouble with ttun.Benny The Jet;1817607 wrote:So after reading that article...it sounds like they're putting most of the miscues and in-completions on the WR, no?

Benny The Jet
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Oct 21, 2016 12:09pm
Agreed. (Cue sleeper's 50 point guarantees against um, Alabama, and Clemson)mcburg93;1817619 wrote:The article did place all the blame on the WRs. I am confident we can win every game up to the Meatchicken game with the way we are playing. I think if we dont get some improvement from the receivers we might have some trouble with ttun.

FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Oct 21, 2016 1:06pm
Ha ha I did not mean that as a continuation of the receiver debate, I just thought it was interesting. But yes they do put a lot of the blame on the receiversBenny The Jet;1817607 wrote:So after reading that article...it sounds like they're putting most of the miscues and in-completions on the WR, no?

Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Oct 22, 2016 8:45pm
Catching a punt is not that difficult god damn.

wildcats20
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Oct 22, 2016 8:54pm
Curtis Samuel has no carries, no catches, and only one target. This offense is straight trash right now.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 22, 2016 9:00pm
Tough conditions. But still, horrible first half for the offense.

Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Oct 22, 2016 9:07pm
Why the fuck are they not giving the ball to Curtis Samuel early and often? It's unbelievable

Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Oct 22, 2016 9:07pm
Why is osu trying so hard to force the passing game.

Benny The Jet
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Oct 22, 2016 9:08pm
Very predictable right now, running routes short of 1st down marker, no separation. Curtis not touching the ball. This isn't real pretty right now

mcburg93
Posts: 3,167
Oct 22, 2016 9:16pm
I hate when I see any team throw the ball short of the first down. Pisses me off even more when a receiver runs a route short of a first down. Just bad coaching in my opinion. The receivers are still not getting separation. Unreal.Benny The Jet;1817825 wrote:Very predictable right now, running routes short of 1st down marker, no separation. Curtis not touching the ball. This isn't real pretty right now

wildcats20
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Oct 22, 2016 9:29pm
Hell of a play by Baugh.

wildcats20
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Oct 22, 2016 9:39pm
JT with a Houdini play.

SportsAndLady
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Oct 22, 2016 9:50pm
Big mistake by UM to call a timeout on that drive. Should have just taken a 12-0 halftime lead

wildcats20
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Oct 22, 2016 9:51pm
He didn't.SportsAndLady;1817831 wrote:Big mistake by UM to call a timeout on that drive. Should have just taken a 12-0 halftime lead