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Jan 12, 2016 5:55 PM
superman;1775163 wrote:My bad. It was a double digit loss to the 5th place team.
In their first game. Last season OSU lost to a team tied for last in their division. 9-10th best team in the ACC last year. I'd say they bounced back nicely. Wouldn't you?
Jan 12, 2016 5:55pm
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Jan 12, 2016 6:03 PM
sportswizuhrd;1775111 wrote:They were ranked over you guys going into the bowl games and beat a team ranked higher than them by nearly double of what you guys did to a team ranked lower. From each teams bowl performances (and that only)what makes you think OSU should jump Stanford?
They jumped OSU after beating USC and that was a joke.

USC got beat in their bowl game, Oregon and Northwestern both sucked and lost their bowl game (Mich St as well knocking OSU back a smidge) Stanford's top win going into their virtual home bowl game was a nail biting win at home versus Notre Dame....who Ohio State beat with much more ease.

1 more loss and wins not any better than OSU. Notre Dame knows who was the better team.
Jan 12, 2016 6:03pm
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Jan 12, 2016 6:03 PM
SportsAndLady;1775160 wrote:No one is forgetting those things they just aren't good arguments. "They've two more games in a row and they won their awful conference!" Doesn't really do much for me. But maybe that's just me.

Having 1 less loss, having a loss to a team in the playoffs, and Stanford losing to northwestern is a much better argument for osu being ahead of Stanford.
What makes their conference awful? Their 1-2 record vs Big 10 in bowl games?
Jan 12, 2016 6:03pm
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Jan 12, 2016 6:09 PM
Ironman92;1775167 wrote:They jumped OSU after beating USC and that was a joke.

USC got beat in their bowl game, Oregon and Northwestern both sucked and lost their bowl game (Mich St as well knocking OSU back a smidge) Stanford's top win going into their virtual home bowl game was a nail biting win at home versus Notre Dame....who Ohio State beat with much more ease.

1 more loss and wins not any better than OSU. Notre Dame knows who was the better team.
It's a joke to win your conference championship and be ranked ahead of someone who didn't even qualify for theirs? Why?

And based on your criteria, can you explain to me why Iowa was ranked ahead of both of them?
Jan 12, 2016 6:09pm
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Jan 12, 2016 6:12 PM
sportswizuhrd;1775168 wrote:What makes their conference awful? Their 1-2 record vs Big 10 in bowl games?
No one in the CFP, average teams outside of Stanford, poor bowl season.

Not saying the B1G is any better but also not using conference championship as an argument.
Jan 12, 2016 6:12pm
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Jan 12, 2016 6:14 PM
sportswizuhrd;1775171 wrote:It's a joke to win your conference championship and be ranked ahead of someone who didn't even qualify for theirs? Why?

And based on your criteria, can you explain to me why Iowa was ranked ahead of both of them?
Why are you putting so much weight on conference championships?

Who had the better regular season:
Team A 11-1, 1 loss to a top 4 team
Team B, 10-2, 2 losses to borderline top 25 teams.
Jan 12, 2016 6:14pm
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Jan 12, 2016 6:18 PM
SportsAndLady;1775173 wrote:Why are you putting so much weight on conference championships?

Who had the better regular season:
Team A 11-1, 1 loss to a top 4 team
Team B, 10-2, 2 losses to borderline top 25 teams.
Don't be bitching when they put two SEC teams in over 2 conference champions.
Jan 12, 2016 6:18pm
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Jan 12, 2016 6:20 PM
SportsAndLady;1775172 wrote:No one in the CFP, average teams outside of Stanford, poor bowl season.

Not saying the B1G is any better but also not using conference championship as an argument.
Pac12 had the 2nd best bowl season of any conference.
Jan 12, 2016 6:20pm
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Jan 12, 2016 6:40 PM
Who cares where anyone finished in the rankings. It's Alabama and then a bunch of losers...
Jan 12, 2016 6:40pm
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Jan 12, 2016 7:02 PM
sportswizuhrd;1775164 wrote:In their first game. Last season OSU lost to a team tied for last in their division. 9-10th best team in the ACC last year. I'd say they bounced back nicely. Wouldn't you?
Yeah they went undefeated the rest of the way. Something Stanford couldn't do.
Jan 12, 2016 7:02pm
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Jan 12, 2016 7:08 PM
sportswizuhrd;1775174 wrote:Don't be bitching when they put two SEC teams in over 2 conference champions.
It happened 4 years ago. It'll happen again.

The SEC is overrated. Nice argument!
Jan 12, 2016 7:08pm
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Jan 12, 2016 7:21 PM
sleeper;1775185 wrote:It happened 4 years ago. It'll happen again.

The SEC is overrated. Nice argument!
What you and I think doesn't matter at all. It's happened once, it can happen again. Whether it's the ACC, P12 or SEC, it can happen again. I don't mention the Big 10 because no one on here would complain about that.
Jan 12, 2016 7:21pm
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Jan 12, 2016 7:22 PM
sportswizuhrd;1775175 wrote:Pac12 had the 2nd best bowl season of any conference.
Then mention the fact that they lost two games rather than singling out one loss that happened in the very start of the season.
Jan 12, 2016 7:22pm
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Jan 12, 2016 7:27 PM
sportswizuhrd;1775199 wrote:Then mention the fact that they lost two games rather than singling out one loss that happened in the very start of the season.
Stanford? Why are we talking about Stanford? Stanford is straight garbage and has never won ANYTHING. They've won nothing! Fucking zero.
Jan 12, 2016 7:27pm
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Jan 12, 2016 7:28 PM
sportswizuhrd;1775197 wrote:What you and I think doesn't matter at all. It's happened once, it can happen again. Whether it's the ACC, P12 or SEC, it can happen again. I don't mention the Big 10 because no one on here would complain about that.
It should never happen if it didn't happen this year. The best team in CFB played ND in the Fiesta Bowl.
Jan 12, 2016 7:28pm
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Jan 12, 2016 7:43 PM
slingshot4ever;1775178 wrote:Who cares where anyone finished in the rankings. It's Alabama and then a bunch of losers...
This.

LOL arguing over the AP poll.
Jan 12, 2016 7:43pm
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Jan 12, 2016 7:46 PM
I don't get the SEC hate. Say what you will about the Big 10 but the bottom half of the conference was terrible


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Jan 12, 2016 7:52 PM
superman;1775182 wrote:Yeah they went undefeated the rest of the way. Something Stanford couldn't do.
Then mention the fact that they lost two games rather than singling out one loss that happened in the very start of the season.
Jan 12, 2016 7:52pm
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Jan 12, 2016 7:54 PM
Classyposter58;1775207 wrote:I don't get the SEC hate. Say what you will about the Big 10 but the bottom half of the conference was terrible


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And the SEC was just as bad, if not worse.
Jan 12, 2016 7:54pm
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Jan 12, 2016 8:22 PM
sportswizuhrd;1775174 wrote:Don't be bitching when they put two SEC teams in over 2 conference champions.
I'm talking about THIS YEAR. You're talking about hypothetical situations.
Jan 12, 2016 8:22pm
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Jan 12, 2016 8:24 PM
sportswizuhrd;1775175 wrote:Pac12 had the 2nd best bowl season of any conference.
No conference really had a good bowl season, other than the SEC.

Just because they were 2nd best doesn't really mean anything.
Jan 12, 2016 8:24pm
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Jan 12, 2016 9:02 PM
sportswizuhrd;1775209 wrote:Then mention the fact that they lost two games rather than singling out one loss that happened in the very start of the season.
The fact that they have lost two games has been mentioned ad nauseum but you keep arguing in circles. You asked why two big ten teams should be ranked ahead of them. I gave you a reason.
Jan 12, 2016 9:02pm
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Jan 12, 2016 9:16 PM
2 losses should outweigh a conference championship
Jan 12, 2016 9:16pm
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Jan 12, 2016 11:00 PM
sportswizuhrd;1775171 wrote:It's a joke to win your conference championship and be ranked ahead of someone who didn't even qualify for theirs? Why?

And based on your criteria, can you explain to me why Iowa was ranked ahead of both of them?
Because every conference is different. How good are the wins and losses of each team.

Edge to Stanford if they only had 1 loss, edge to OSU since Stanford had 2.
Jan 12, 2016 11:00pm
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Jan 12, 2016 11:10 PM
Per AP rankings...

Stanford beat #9 handily and #11 in a nail-biter at home.....lost to #19 and #23

Ohio State beat #11 and #12 both handily and lost to #6

Getting way too much credit for beating a 6 loss USC team
Jan 12, 2016 11:10pm