HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Mar 13, 2016 9:44pm
If they are playing "moneyball" it's no wonder they let Mack walk.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 13, 2016 9:56pm
Letting Schwartz walk was inexcusable. The other 3, yeah sucks but not going to QQ about Gibson/Benjamin. Mack wasn't this FO's fault, it was farmer's stupidity.shook_17;1786338 wrote:I really hope they don't pull the trigger on Kapernick. They talk how they want to build through the draft but now we want to trade picks? And I saw that kap doesn't want to take a pay cut to come to CLE. He's no good and has gotten worse every single year. I was really big on drafting a qb but the f they went defense I wouldn't be mad. Ramsey or Jack, and start building this defense. But you could go qb if he's truly your number 1 on the big board.
Also I'm salty they let shawrtz walk. Benji idc he was overrated and not every good. Sucks losing Gipson and creating these holes. Alex Mack can't say I blame the guy. All we do is lose.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Mar 13, 2016 10:01pm
lolIggyPride00;1785867 wrote:This is without question the most poorly run organization in professional sports.
Jimmy is bitterly jealous of Dolan and wants the title of the city's biggest cheapskate.
The Depodesta hire was clearly made to gain insight on how the Wilpons and Frank McCourt (2 of the worst, cheapest owners in history) effectively scammed their franchises. Depodesta was right in the middle of both the Dodgers and Mets in their glory days of cheapness.
Next thing we know Jimmy is going to change the team mascot from Swagger to Mr. Krabs from sponge bob in honor of his devotion to cheapness.
This franchise disgusts me, and I don't know what I have done to deserve having a con man take over my favorite team.
Browns fans deserve better.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 14, 2016 7:45am
It sounds like Kaepernick's eagerness to join Hue Jackson in Cleveland has cooled due to a) not wanting to cut the contract, b) going to a losing team and c) having been sacked 80+ times over the past few years, getting behind a rebuilt O-Line.shook_17;1786338 wrote:I really hope they don't pull the trigger on Kapernick. They talk how they want to build through the draft but now we want to trade picks? And I saw that kap doesn't want to take a pay cut to come to CLE. He's no good and has gotten worse every single year. I was really big on drafting a qb but the f they went defense I wouldn't be mad. Ramsey or Jack, and start building this defense. But you could go qb if he's truly your number 1 on the big board.
Also I'm salty they let shawrtz walk. Benji idc he was overrated and not every good. Sucks losing Gipson and creating these holes. Alex Mack can't say I blame the guy. All we do is lose.
Shocker here, Pete Prisco giving the Browns an "F" (the only F) in free agency....
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/pete-prisco/25516088
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Mar 14, 2016 8:03am
Shucks! Fuck KaepernickBR1986FB;1786381 wrote:It sounds like Kaepernick's eagerness to join Hue Jackson in Cleveland has cooled due to a) not wanting to cut the contract, b) going to a losing team and c) having been sacked 80+ times over the past few years, getting behind a rebuilt O-Line.
Shocker here, Pete Prisco giving the Browns an "F" (the only F) in free agency....
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/pete-prisco/25516088
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 14, 2016 8:08am
I mean it still could happen but I read an article from a local beat writer out in the Bay area that stated some of Kaepernick's concerns. Those concerns probably go away if he gets the money he wants.shook_17;1786382 wrote:Shucks! Fuck Kaepernick
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Mar 14, 2016 10:10am
out of 32 teams only one got the grade of "F" in free agency. Guess who?
http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/pete-prisco/25516088/nfl-free-agency-grades-32-grades-for-32-teams-but-only-one-big-fat-f
http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/pete-prisco/25516088/nfl-free-agency-grades-32-grades-for-32-teams-but-only-one-big-fat-f
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 14, 2016 10:11am
It's easy to make that guess considering this grade was posted about 5 posts earlier...HitsRus;1786405 wrote:out of 32 teams only one got the grade of "F" in free agency. Guess who?
http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/pete-prisco/25516088/nfl-free-agency-grades-32-grades-for-32-teams-but-only-one-big-fat-f
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Mar 14, 2016 10:12am
new guys off to a great start!Shocker here, Pete Prisco giving the Browns an "F" (the only F) in free agency....
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/...risco/25516088
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 14, 2016 10:21am
I don't have a huge issue with what they're doing if the intent is to tear it all down & build it back up. What would piss me off is if they brought in Kaepernick to be their "bridge" guy. It would pretty much defy everything they've done up to this point.HitsRus;1786408 wrote:new guys off to a great start!
As previously mentioned, the way Depodesta & Brown are going about this is going to piss off a lot of fans because this team will be bad and many fans won't understand the process. One bright spot is that hopefully they will have some continuity, from a coaching perspective, for a few years as Haslam surely can't expect Hue Jackson to turn water into wine with this turd.
It sucks but I think they are going to do it the "right" way. This team needed broken down instead of adding aging veterans to try to give them a push toward the playoffs when those vets were usually washed up.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 14, 2016 10:41am
Except we've tried this approach numerous times since the Browns returned to the league. What brings you any confidence that this way is going to help us win a Super Bowl?BR1986FB;1786417 wrote:I don't have a huge issue with what they're doing if the intent is to tear it all down & build it back up. What would piss me off is if they brought in Kaepernick to be their "bridge" guy. It would pretty much defy everything they've done up to this point.
As previously mentioned, the way Depodesta & Brown are going about this is going to piss off a lot of fans because this team will be bad and many fans won't understand the process. One bright spot is that hopefully they will have some continuity, from a coaching perspective, for a few years as Haslam surely can't expect Hue Jackson to turn water into wine with this turd.
It sucks but I think they are going to do it the "right" way. This team needed broken down instead of adding aging veterans to try to give them a push toward the playoffs when those vets were usually washed up.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 14, 2016 10:45am
When, except when they first started out from expansion, have they tried this approach "numerous times?" They've tried to rebuild but I think they are going to gut this down to the bare bones before they are done.sleeper;1786427 wrote:Except we've tried this approach numerous times since the Browns returned to the league. What brings you any confidence that this way is going to help us win a Super Bowl?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 14, 2016 10:49am
If that's the case, why is JT still on the team? If we were truly offered a 1st and a 2nd from the Broncos, that should be a simple decision.BR1986FB;1786428 wrote:When, except when they first started out from expansion, have they tried this approach "numerous times?" They've tried to rebuild but I think they are going to gut this down to the bare bones before they are done.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 14, 2016 10:54am
That offer was on the table before the trade deadline before Sashi & Depodesta were in charge. I wouldn't necessarily say JT is "safe" from trade. Still plenty of time (draft day or trade deadline) for that to happen.sleeper;1786430 wrote:If that's the case, why is JT still on the team? If we were truly offered a 1st and a 2nd from the Broncos, that should be a simple decision.
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Sonofanump
Mar 14, 2016 12:41pm
No thanks to anything much north of $10m a year.BR1986FB;1786383 wrote:I mean it still could happen but I read an article from a local beat writer out in the Bay area that stated some of Kaepernick's concerns. Those concerns probably go away if he gets the money he wants.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 14, 2016 3:14pm
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Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 14, 2016 6:25pm
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Sonofanump
Mar 14, 2016 8:42pm
[video=youtube;JeJpQlGW_GA][/video]Commander of Awesome;1786581 wrote:http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/03/former_browns_owner_randy_lern.html
lol unreal
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 14, 2016 10:17pm
lol, no way that guy is actually playing the keyboard right? No a piano guy but reminds me of this:Sonofanump;1786604 wrote:[video=youtube;JeJpQlGW_GA][/video]
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 14, 2016 11:31pm
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Mar 15, 2016 1:42am
I assume the National media will run with this tomorrow.
Tweets from a SLC radio dude...
@1280Spence Strange scene here at the arena. Kyrie Irving is on the court shooting jumpers while venting to a Cavs assistant coach about something.
@1280Spence Kyrie and Tyronn Lue looked to be arguing about something on the sidelines late in the game. Not sure about specifics, but this is strange.
Tweets from a SLC radio dude...
@1280Spence Strange scene here at the arena. Kyrie Irving is on the court shooting jumpers while venting to a Cavs assistant coach about something.
@1280Spence Kyrie and Tyronn Lue looked to be arguing about something on the sidelines late in the game. Not sure about specifics, but this is strange.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Mar 15, 2016 7:23am
^^^ I don't see this approach working and we will be back here 3 or 4 years. The issue is they think you have to be the smartest guy in the room when all you have to do is watch the tape and not over think it. If they make this work I'll gladly eat the crow.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 15, 2016 11:24am
He's never won anything.Commander of Awesome;1786656 wrote:Pretty interesting read: http://www.baseballamerica.com/majors/paul-depodesta-ready-to-answer-doubters-in-nfl-role/#UAG2loYidooa1rGu.97
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Mar 15, 2016 11:31am
“I was standing right in front of them in line and I could hear them in back of me and they were talking trash about me and the Cleveland Browns,”
Show 'em your World Series ring.
Show 'em your World Series ring.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Mar 15, 2016 10:59pm
Mike Loyko ‏ @ NEPD_Loyko[FONT=Roboto !important]Also told four teams were in the mix for Chandler Jones. Haven't confirmed otherwise but told CLE Jax and GB were among interested teams
take it for what it's worth. Woulda been a nice addition
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take it for what it's worth. Woulda been a nice addition
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