HitsRus;1779198 wrote:yep.....hard to replace a pro bowl center.

BR1986FB;1779194 wrote:Hopefully a positive sign?

http://cle.247sports.com/Bolt/Alex-Mack-Browns-going-in-the-right-direction-43268254

Go4alOngbOmB;1779367 wrote:I am completely alright with whoever we decide to take at #2 if it is a QB. Both seem like high moral guys, who work hard and WANT to be better. My concern is at #34, round 2.....we lead the league in receivers under 6 feet tall.....you have to give whoever you are giving the rock to, a chance. Watching (yes I know the joke) the Pro Bowl, in our division we have a guy who can make catches on throws a QB "shouldnt have made" in AJ Green, we need a prolific receiver, over the 6'2 mark, to throw those balls to. Just my opinion, we draft yet ANOTHER offensive lineman, with that pick, I blow my top, we have a stable if we keep everyone healthy.

SportsAndLady;1779384 wrote:We do have Gordon back (or at least we should). But I agree they need to grab taller receivers. I'd like to see that second pick on the defensive side but wouldn't be mad if they went wr.

like_that;1779388 wrote:I'm ok with either WR or best available player on the defensive side.

BR1986FB;1779392 wrote:Heard Dane Brugler (CBS Sports) who is supposed to be a draft "guru" said good gets for the Browns would be QB at 2, whoever they like (he has Goff rated as the 4th best player in the draft, Wentz #11), and either Michael Thomas (OSU) with that 2nd pick or a D-Lineman because this draft is supposed to be deep at that position and one could fall. Would love to see Zeke fall to the Browns 2nd pick but he's projected top 10.

Interesting to note, Brugler has Braxton Miller going to the Bengals with their first rounder. I believe both Marvin Jones & Sanu are FA's so they could be Hue Jackson targets in FA, should they want to go that route. I'd rather have Jones if they decide to do that.

BR1986FB;1779436 wrote:Brugler also called Wentz a "suped up, more athletic version of Alex Smith with a skillset closer to Derek Carr."

He also said that Goff didn't have the big arm, size or athleticism of Wentz but had a big advantage over the rest of the QB's with what he had "between the ears." Said he was very good at reads.

Also said every one of these QB's would benefit from "sitting & learning" although he said Goff should only need a couple of weeks before he'd be ready to be thrown into the fire.

"We've been clear about expectations for our players on and off the field. Johnny's continual involvement in incidents that run counter to those expectations undermines the hard work of his teammates and the reputation of our organization. His status with our team will be addressed when permitted by league rules. We will have no further comment at this time."

Automatik;1779450 wrote:He will be let go 12:01am Feb 8th. Book it.

Automatik;1779478 wrote:I wonder more details will come out from this incident in DFW. The reasoning for needing a fucking helicopter!?

Con_Alma;1779482 wrote:I was under the impression the helicopter search was because his girlfriend said she thought he might be a danger to himself. Seems a bit crazy but his whole life is crazy.

Automatik;1779478 wrote:I wonder more details will come out from this incident in DFW. The reasoning for needing a fucking helicopter!?

sleeper;1779481 wrote: I haven't looked too much at the QB class this year but I expect everyone to blindly follow whatever declaration I make as fact.

BR1986FB;1779514 wrote:I've made my share of QB mistakes (too long on the Weeden Wagon') but you also kept harping on the Browns bringing in Troy Smith, so it's not all sunshine & ponies.

sleeper;1779516 wrote:Troy Smith probably has more NFL wins than all of them. Remember, T.Smith was slated to play the season Flacco was a rookie but got sick in training camp. Given how Flacco was carried to a few super bowls by a great defense, T. Smith had a chance at minimum to win the largest contract in the NFL + a few super bowl MVPs.