Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Dec 29, 2015 4:03pm
I'm betting he gets traded or cut in the offseason.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Dec 29, 2015 4:56pm
The video looks like it's at somebodies house. Who gives a fuck.
But after watching Goff today, he's looked impressive. The more I think on Johnny he scares me. If Johnny shows me something Sunday I roll with him next year, if he has another outting like Sunday against KC I'm going Goff. And I love Johnny. If Goff comes out and he's there I take him. Then Josh Docton in the second.
But after watching Goff today, he's looked impressive. The more I think on Johnny he scares me. If Johnny shows me something Sunday I roll with him next year, if he has another outting like Sunday against KC I'm going Goff. And I love Johnny. If Goff comes out and he's there I take him. Then Josh Docton in the second.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Dec 29, 2015 5:31pm
BR1986FB;1771893 wrote:Let's see what Pettine does, if anything, with this.....
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25429805/another-johnny-manziel-drinking-video-emerges-could-result-in-browns-punishment?FTAG=YHF7e3228e
If he benches him again, I'd say that is pretty petty.
I'm starting to get the vibe he's doing this on purpose to force the Browns' hand and get out of here.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 29, 2015 5:51pm
Kind of agree here.lhslep134;1771900 wrote:I'm starting to get the vibe he's doing this on purpose to force the Browns' hand and get out of here.
There was an article on Yahoo earlier today, which I now can't find, about how he was trying to force their hand so he could go to Dallas. I just wish we hear more about how well he's playing on the field (if that were the case) than the stupid tabloid stuff we seem to hear every other week off the field.
Off topic but here are the Browns home/away opponents for next year. On paper it looks like a few more wins but some of the "11-5" comments at the bottom are laughable.
http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2015/12/28/10675570/browns-2016-schedule-home-and-away-opponents-locked-in
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 29, 2015 6:12pm
So you're basing JFF's future in cleveland based on 1 game? Or am I missing something.shook_17;1771897 wrote:The video looks like it's at somebodies house. Who gives a fuck.
But after watching Goff today, he's looked impressive. The more I think on Johnny he scares me. If Johnny shows me something Sunday I roll with him next year, if he has another outting like Sunday against KC I'm going Goff. And I love Johnny. If Goff comes out and he's there I take him. Then Josh Docton in the second.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 29, 2015 8:40pm
If everything stays as it is (Titans with #1 pick, Browns #2) the Browns will actually have two 1st rounder's again this year. New England lost their 1st so the Browns would be selecting at #2 & #32 as the top pick in the rounds flip flops between #1 & #2.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 29, 2015 8:43pm
Bosa and a WR?BR1986FB;1771925 wrote:If everything stays as it is (Titans with #1 pick, Browns #2) the Browns will actually have two 1st rounder's again this year. New England lost their 1st so the Browns would be selecting at #2 & #32 as the top pick in the rounds flip flops between #1 & #2.
Bosa and an ILB?
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 29, 2015 8:49pm
At this point I don't give a shit as long as they're studs. No more Gilbert's or Mingo's. Anyone (please) that can make an impact. If they grade one of the top QB's very high, take one of them.Commander of Awesome;1771926 wrote:Bosa and a WR?
Bosa and an ILB?
I'd really hate to see Bosa wearing purple & black for the next 8-10 years though. And that's just the type of guy Ozzie would take.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 29, 2015 9:00pm
Love how everyone just assumes that if they don't take a QB with their top pick, they're going to draft a stud.
They could just as easily miss on a DE as they could a QB.
They could just as easily miss on a DE as they could a QB.
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Dec 29, 2015 9:50pm
Josh Gordon will be back, right?
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Dec 29, 2015 11:13pm
The one DE that would be a pretty much sure stud would be bosa. The kid has it all. I'm really curious to see how he does against ND. Stanley and mcglinchy will be first round picks at the tackle position.SportsAndLady;1771931 wrote:Love how everyone just assumes that if they don't take a QB with their top pick, they're going to draft a stud.
They could just as easily miss on a DE as they could a QB.
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SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 29, 2015 11:20pm
No such thing as a sure stud.Crimson streak;1771951 wrote:The one DE that would be a pretty much sure stud would be bosa. The kid has it all. I'm really curious to see how he does against ND. Stanley and mcglinchy will be first round picks at the tackle position.
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Bosa has played in games this year and last where we've (osu fans) have all thought "where the hells Bosa been?"
I do think he'll be a good pro but certainly isn't a 100% lock to be a stud.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Dec 30, 2015 2:04am
I'd bench him for having shitty taste in alcohol. Comes from wealth, makes how much playing professional football -- still drinks cheap garbage like he's back in the dorms.
What's different? Pettine is days from being fired and doesn't have administrations support in benching Manziel anymore?Pettine, however, did add that he believed this latest video is different than the one that got Manziel into trouble in November.
"These circumstances are different from the incident that occurred before," Pettine said. "I'm just not going to go into a ton of detail with it until I get a little bit more information about it, but it's something that I'm sure privately we'll discuss if it needs to be discussed."
By the way, Manziel gets himself into trouble -- warranted or not -- every time a video surfaces of him drinking. Yet he keeps hanging with people who record him and post it online? Get some better fucking friends.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 30, 2015 3:25am
The only problem I have with Bosa is that if they keep Pettine, or hire a coach who favors the 3-4, will he fit the system? Listed at 276 lbs, that's kind of light for a 3-4 DE. Do they try to convert him to OLB? He's going to be a better fit in a 4-3, imo.Crimson streak;1771951 wrote:The one DE that would be a pretty much sure stud would be bosa. The kid has it all. I'm really curious to see how he does against ND. Stanley and mcglinchy will be first round picks at the tackle position.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 30, 2015 3:27am
As sad as that sounds, it's true.friendfromlowry;1771960 wrote: By the way, Manziel gets himself into trouble -- warranted or not -- every time a video surfaces of him drinking. Yet he keeps hanging with people who record him and post it online? Get some better fucking friends.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Dec 30, 2015 8:04am
It sort of fits the narrative he's doing this because he wants outfriendfromlowry;1771960 wrote:
Yet he keeps hanging with people who record him and post it online? Get some better fucking friends.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Dec 30, 2015 8:35am
Agree 100%.lhslep134;1771972 wrote:It sort of fits the narrative he's doing this because he wants out
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 30, 2015 8:38am
Manziel is a douche. Good riddance if he leaves.
That being said, Pettine and his handling of manziel couldn't have been worse.
Basically everyone sucks in Cleveland. Except Joe Thomas.
That being said, Pettine and his handling of manziel couldn't have been worse.
Basically everyone sucks in Cleveland. Except Joe Thomas.
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Sonofanump
Dec 30, 2015 9:32am
Who is on the decline, but still top 3 tackle in the league.SportsAndLady;1771974 wrote:Basically everyone sucks in Cleveland. Except Joe Thomas.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 30, 2015 9:51am
I just meant from a personality standpoint. Joe just STFU and plays. People should take notes.Sonofanump;1771980 wrote:Who is on the decline, but still top 3 tackle in the league.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Dec 30, 2015 10:03am
I mean yeah if I was Manziel I'd want out from dealing with Pettine after what happened this season, but he needs to stop exacerbating the situation with this stupid shit that he knows the media will jump on.SportsAndLady;1771974 wrote:
That being said, Pettine and his handling of manziel couldn't have been worse.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Dec 30, 2015 10:14am
I just don't understand how you can go to "rehab" (yes, most likely a PR move), still continue to drink openly and put yourself in situations that will be viewed negatively. He took time away from his job to "rehabilitate" himself and this is now the 3rd incident, correct? It's a slap in the face to his employer.
I don't think the last two videos are a big deal at all, but I won't be surprised if he's gone sooner than later.
I don't think the last two videos are a big deal at all, but I won't be surprised if he's gone sooner than later.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 30, 2015 12:52pm
Still #1 in Pass and Run by PFF. Not even sure why you bothered to bring up he's on the "decline".Sonofanump;1771980 wrote:Who is on the decline, but still top 3 tackle in the league.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Dec 30, 2015 1:06pm
Adding to things in at least a weird way, according to Deadspin, Manziel is being checked for concussion protocol today, which could put his ability to play Sunday at risk. Cue the "is he really concussed or is he "concussed" as a way to take the easy way out as far as dealing with him goes?" pondering.lhslep134;1771972 wrote:It sort of fits the narrative he's doing this because he wants out
At least, between his shitty day passing Sunday, his latest party vid and now the possibility of being injured, we've gone a few days without Foot acting like he's Jesus in Shoulder Pads, still on pace to wind up about the 2nd best QB of all time.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Dec 30, 2015 1:11pm
According to Twitter, Pryor getting reps at QB.