Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 14, 2015 5:57pm
Damn, Haden to IR over concussions. Must have been one hellva of concussion.
http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2015/12/14/browns-place-joe-haden-on-injured-reserve-make-3-other-roster-moves/#.Vm9FNBzfBzQ.twitter
http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2015/12/14/browns-place-joe-haden-on-injured-reserve-make-3-other-roster-moves/#.Vm9FNBzfBzQ.twitter
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 14, 2015 6:02pm
Either that or he was afraid to play and get another bad one in a meaningless season. Wouldn't blame him.Commander of Awesome;1769477 wrote:Damn, Haden to IR over concussions. Must have been one hellva of concussion.
http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2015/12/14/browns-place-joe-haden-on-injured-reserve-make-3-other-roster-moves/#.Vm9FNBzfBzQ.twitter
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 14, 2015 6:21pm
He would have to be throwing the tests on purpose then since he's still in the concussion protocol. I find that hard to believe. Doesn't mean I want him to come back this season, no reason to.SportsAndLady;1769478 wrote:Either that or he was afraid to play and get another bad one in a meaningless season. Wouldn't blame him.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 14, 2015 6:32pm
Thought maybe team was just shutting him down...didn't realize he was still on protocol.
Former Browns QB Hoyer with his 2nd concussion in a month...thinking he returned too soon.
Former Browns QB Hoyer with his 2nd concussion in a month...thinking he returned too soon.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Dec 14, 2015 8:36pm
Really excited to see how Manziel does against the Seahawks D.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 14, 2015 8:58pm
Big measuring stick for Manziel.
BRF
Posts: 8,748
Dec 14, 2015 9:34pm
I'm not so much "really excited", but I AM looking forward to it!
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Dec 15, 2015 12:36am
If we fall a couple of slots because JFF proves that he can play in this league I'm OK with that.
rrfan
Posts: 1,922
Dec 15, 2015 7:40am
Going to be a painful weekend for the Browns. Seattle is not SF JFF will find that out quickly.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 15, 2015 7:48am
Agreed. It's not so much that I don't believe he can make the throws as much as it is "can the receivers get open against the Seahawks secondary." I also expect the running game to go back to putrid and the Crow to come back to reality.rrfan;1769558 wrote:Going to be a painful weekend for the Browns. Seattle is not SF JFF will find that out quickly.
Seattle's defense is playing very well right now. I doubt the Browns will put up 10 points, on offense, in this one.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 15, 2015 8:18am
Seahawks make a lot of good QB's look bad. Just like I'm not going to judge manziel after playing the lowly niners, I'm not going to judge him after playing the Seahawks.
Hopefully he plays well but I'm not expecting much.
Hopefully he plays well but I'm not expecting much.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 15, 2015 8:38am
Unlike a certain individual on another thread who has already enshrined him, the expectations of Manziel in this game shouldn't be high. It would be nice to just see him progress and continue to improve.SportsAndLady;1769564 wrote:Seahawks make a lot of good QB's look bad. Just like I'm not going to judge manziel after playing the lowly niners, I'm not going to judge him after playing the Seahawks.
Hopefully he plays well but I'm not expecting much.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 15, 2015 10:42am
Don't get your hopes up. Manziel is still one of the worst QBs in the league.lhslep134;1769507 wrote:Really excited to see how Manziel does against the Seahawks D.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Dec 15, 2015 10:47am
I have zero expectations of him. I'm excited because we can finally see if he's made any improvement. He's getting tested by a great defense and not whatever you want to call the Niners effort on Sunday.sleeper;1769588 wrote:Don't get your hopes up. Manziel is still one of the worst QBs in the league.
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Sonofanump
Dec 15, 2015 12:25pm
The line 14.5. That is all you need to know.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 15, 2015 12:49pm
Sonofanump;1769603 wrote:The line 14.5. That is all you need to know.
That seems low based on the past 2 weeks.
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Sonofanump
Dec 15, 2015 1:23pm
San Diego is a 1 point favorite this week at home.Sonofanump;1769422 wrote:Tennessee: Houston and Indy could be winnable.
15 Sun, Dec 20 @ New England 1:00 PM ET 16 Sun, Dec 27 Houston 1:00 PM ET 17 Sun, Jan 03 @ Indianapolis 1:00 PM ET
San Diego: Chance to win any of these three, if Denver has nothing to play for and rest starters.
15 Sun, Dec 20 Miami 4:25 PM ET 16 Thu, Dec 24 @ Oakland 8:25 PM ET 17 Sun, Jan 03 @ Denver 4:25 PM ET
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 15, 2015 1:45pm
How Gordon's keeping himself occupied during his suspension....
http://cle.247sports.com/Bolt/Josh-Gordon-turns-to-art-during-suspension-42047622
http://cle.247sports.com/Bolt/Josh-Gordon-turns-to-art-during-suspension-42047622
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 15, 2015 1:47pm
Considering that in the losses since the Browns started 7-4 last year, their average margin of loss has been about 14 points, I'd agree.Mulva;1769610 wrote:That seems low based on the past 2 weeks.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 15, 2015 3:35pm
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 15, 2015 4:02pm
He's made zero improvement. He's not good.lhslep134;1769589 wrote:I have zero expectations of him. I'm excited because we can finally see if he's made any improvement. He's getting tested by a great defense and not whatever you want to call the Niners effort on Sunday.
I expect an absolute dismal, borderline trash performance from Manziel on Sunday. Beating the lowly 49er's is barely worth the breath to talk about how low of an accomplishment that is.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 15, 2015 6:05pm
This is such over the top bullshit. To say "zero" is preposterous.sleeper;1769634 wrote:He's made zero improvement.
I don't think he's their long term answer but if you can't see that he's improved from Tennessee to Pittsburgh to SF, you're blind. And it's obvious you didn't watch that Cincinnati debacle last year.
Granted, SF wasn't much of a test but his play could've been significantly worse. He's far from a "franchise QB" at this point but he has "improved."
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 16, 2015 10:26am
Improved from dog shit to potential backup is an improvement; however irrelevant to solving the Browns rotating door at QB.BR1986FB;1769657 wrote:This is such over the top bullshit. To say "zero" is preposterous.
I don't think he's their long term answer but if you can't see that he's improved from Tennessee to Pittsburgh to SF, you're blind. And it's obvious you didn't watch that Cincinnati debacle last year.
Granted, SF wasn't much of a test but his play could've been significantly worse. He's far from a "franchise QB" at this point but he has "improved."
Manziel is going to get his ass handed to him against the Seahawks. His "improvement" is a joke at best. He's not good, he will never be good, and if the Browns had any balls they'd cut him immediately.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 16, 2015 10:41am
Well that's more than "zero" improvement. He may never be good enough to be an NFL starter but you at least have to give the guy his due that he has gotten better.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 16, 2015 1:21pm
This isn't high school or college. Improving is useless.BR1986FB;1769765 wrote:Well that's more than "zero" improvement. He may never be good enough to be an NFL starter but you at least have to give the guy his due that he has gotten better.
Manziel sucks. Cut him.