Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Aug 12, 2016 8:29pm
Browns in last season's Mid Season Form already.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Aug 13, 2016 9:05am
How was the game, I couldn't watch and forgot to DVR the replay on NFL network
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Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Aug 13, 2016 9:09am
Brutal lol.iclfan2;1807122 wrote:How was the game, I couldn't watch and forgot to DVR the replay on NFL network
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iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Aug 13, 2016 10:22am
Ha yea I was reading Twitter, a lot of hot takes on the first preseason game. Wtf were people expecting
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Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Aug 13, 2016 10:40am
My guess is not 2 safety's, including an Orlovsky, and not dropping the "free kick" for a turnover immediately after getting a safety on GB. Don't care about forts preseason or not, that's just brutal.iclfan2;1807127 wrote:Ha yea I was reading Twitter, a lot of hot takes on the first preseason game. Wtf were people expecting
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Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Aug 13, 2016 11:08am
I watched the game, big concerns with our oline and running game. Also our starting def couldn't stop the run with an undrafted free agent qb and no passing game.
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Aug 13, 2016 7:36pm
Reading comments, this is the kind of crap I was worried about this year. People's expectations this year need to chill. This is MAYBE a 2 win team. They were a 3 win team last year, and got worse player wise. They looked about what I expected.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Aug 13, 2016 9:32pm
Maybe a 2 win team? WTF?Benny The Jet;1807178 wrote:Reading comments, this is the kind of crap I was worried about this year. People's expectations this year need to chill. This is MAYBE a 2 win team. They were a 3 win team last year, and got worse player wise. They looked about what I expected.
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Aug 13, 2016 10:12pm
You think they got better players this year than last? Im not just saying it for the hot-take. I really think they got worse, and I'm ok with it. Don't mess around and get a meaningless December win to bump you out of the top pick.Ironman92;1807195 wrote:Maybe a 2 win team? WTF?
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Aug 13, 2016 10:14pm
I just don't think any team in NFL is maybe a 2 win team.Benny The Jet;1807202 wrote:You think they got better players this year than last? Im not just saying it for the hot-take. I really think they got worse, and I'm ok with it. Don't mess around and get a meaningless December win to bump you out of the top pick.
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Aug 13, 2016 10:25pm
I just went through that schedule again
..barring injury, Titans and Chargers are about it. And Titans improved
..barring injury, Titans and Chargers are about it. And Titans improved
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Aug 13, 2016 11:10pm
Every team in the NFL that is expected to win fewer than 10 games will beat at least 1 team that no one expects them to.Benny The Jet;1807207 wrote:I just went through that schedule again
..barring injury, Titans and Chargers are about it. And Titans improved
New coach and Gordon returning...no way are the Browns a 1-15 team
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Aug 14, 2016 8:17am
I see them going 5-11, with RGIII exceeding expectations and having a solid year...jmoBenny The Jet;1807178 wrote:Reading comments, this is the kind of crap I was worried about this year. People's expectations this year need to chill. This is MAYBE a 2 win team. They were a 3 win team last year, and got worse player wise. They looked about what I expected.
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Aug 14, 2016 8:35am
They can't run the ball, the offensive line is not good. Thus, teams start teeing off on getting to a fragile qb. That's why I say 2-3 wins. We'll agree to disagree.Ironman92;1807217 wrote:Every team in the NFL that is expected to win fewer than 10 games will beat at least 1 team that no one expects them to.
New coach and Gordon returning...no way are the Browns a 1-15 team
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Aug 14, 2016 8:41am
I really hope they don't win 5 games. That'd mean another 8-10 draft pick. That has done them no good. If you suck, just go all in with sucking and accumulate good picks. Worked for Cavs, Colts, Astros, Cubs and possibly 76ersvball10set;1807228 wrote:I see them going 5-11, with RGIII exceeding expectations and having a solid year...jmo
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Aug 14, 2016 9:00am
I would add Royals but hesitate on all others except Cavs unless the goal isn't to win it all. 76ers? They are risking losing an entire fan base with what they are doing.Benny The Jet;1807230 wrote:I really hope they don't win 5 games. That'd mean another 8-10 draft pick. That has done them no good. If you suck, just go all in with sucking and accumulate good picks. Worked for Cavs, Colts, Astros, Cubs and possibly 76ers
Not trying to be petty but you said they are maybe a 2 win team, which says that you believe they are probably a 1 win team. Regardless, I don't know the team well enough but just thought that was crazy pessimistic of you. I'll likely be pulling for them against the Bengals and probably the Ravens.
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Aug 14, 2016 9:13am
Yea Royals is a good add. 76ers may be a stretch, and I'd be pretty frustrated at this point if I was a fan. I guess my point is I don't see the point of winning a meaningless December game vs 49ers. I'm sure pride has lot to do with it, but does the organization no good.Ironman92;1807231 wrote:I would add Royals but hesitate on all others except Cavs unless the goal isn't to win it all. 76ers? They are risking losing an entire fan base with what they are doing.
Not trying to be petty but you said they are maybe a 2 win team, which says that you believe they are probably a 1 win team. Regardless, I don't know the team well enough but just thought that was crazy pessimistic of you. I'll likely be pulling for them against the Bengals and probably the Ravens.
From what I saw last year, what I've read and saw Friday...my prediction is 2-14. Still can't stop the run, can't run the ball, o-line not good, qb who no doubt will not last 16 games with that bad o-line.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Aug 14, 2016 10:45am
Which is more true?sleeper;1806823 wrote:the worst NFL player ever, JFF.
Tebow > JFF
Tebow < JFF
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Aug 14, 2016 11:37am
All things considered I'd go Ryan Leafernest_t_bass;1807243 wrote:Which is more true?
Tebow > JFF
Tebow < JFF
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Aug 14, 2016 12:12pm
I can't tell if this is e-sarcasm, or a real question.ernest_t_bass;1807243 wrote:Which is more true?
Tebow > JFF
Tebow < JFF
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Aug 14, 2016 12:31pm
Tebow over JFF, and it's not even close.
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Aug 14, 2016 12:46pm
This. Every time.friendfromlowry;1807258 wrote:Tebow over JFF, and it's not even close.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Aug 15, 2016 10:01am
I'd take Tim Tebow with no arms, no legs and half a lung over the dumpster fire NFL player that JFF is.ernest_t_bass;1807243 wrote:Which is more true?
Tebow > JFF
Tebow < JFF
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Aug 15, 2016 10:38am
ernest_t_bass;1807243 wrote:Which is more true?
Tebow > JFF
Tebow < JFF
Ironman92;1807254 wrote:All things considered I'd go Ryan Leaf
friendfromlowry;1807258 wrote:Tebow over JFF, and it's not even close.
Benny The Jet;1807261 wrote:This. Every time.
thesesleeper;1807361 wrote:I'd take Tim Tebow with no arms, no legs and half a lung over the dumpster fire NFL player that JFF is.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Aug 15, 2016 12:03pm
LMAO morons by the end of his career it'll be JFF > Brady
/footwedge'd, just because it's been a while
/footwedge'd, just because it's been a while