You'd be jumping in with both feet if he was working for the Steelers.SportsAndLady;1815372 wrote:I don't give a fuck if Briles is a special coach (whatever TF that means) on the Browns.
He didn't rape girls in Georgia bathrooms. I honestly don't care if the browns hire him or not.
Stop being so dramatic.
Yeah totallyqueencitybuckeye;1815421 wrote:You'd be jumping in with both feet if he was working for the Steelers.
Stop being a hypocrite.
Tl;dr you're upset bc of your political affiliation. Got it. Great thing about facts, they're true whether you agree with them or not.like_that;1815405 wrote:Deflecting? You asked me a quesiton and I answered it lolfail. You told me to give you examples, and I did. Hillary was the freshest example that came to me. Don't get butt hurt because the truth hurts. You pick and choose when to get offended.
lol politifact checking trump's quote is your way of deflecting her being a POS btw. The women themselves made the claim. You're not going to believe them, but believe everyone else when it comes to sexual assault (i.e. rapistberger)? Like I said, choosing when to get offended. As for the Indians and wahoo don't root for the team if it is so derogatory. You don't act like a offensive cry baby like you did with the redskins. Btw polls show that native americans don't give a fuck about the redskins name. And actually polls showed less people started to care once the Skins started to win again, but keep up the fight for something that has nothing to do with you! I am sure I can come up with other examples, but the whole point is the hypocrisy coming out of your cry baby storm.
As for JoePa, I am not condoning what he did, neither with Art. You are having a difficult time distinguishing between not condoning something and not being dramatic about it.
Also, 30+ years of hiding child molestation is not even close to what Art did, but that's another argument for another time.
I wasn't aware that art briles is a libertarian. Link?Commander of Awesome;1815441 wrote:Tl;dr you're upset bc of your political affiliation. Got it. Great thing about facts, they're true whether you agree with them or not.
I guess the plain dealer is a "cry baby" too.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/10/the_browns_should_want_nothing.html
Dude, Doc was my all time favorite and sported #16 because of him. Local guy got drafted by the Mets in '84, got to catch Gooden in spring training. When he would be back in town in the winter, knowing I was a looked up to those guys, he told me that 'one day I will tell you how they really are'. SUcks as a kid seeing your "idol" do so much shit wrong. BTW..you see Doc and Darryl 30/30? I knew it was bad...but never realized how bad.Ironman92;1815408 wrote:Damn lol.
Professional athletes will rip your heart and morals apart. It's always been that way. Growing up some of my favorite players: Doc Gooden, Darryl Strawberry, Vince Coleman....you know what screw it, too depressing and numerous to name the probable 100 athletes. So so many are spoiled or entitled or unable to handle the wealth coming from crap or just unable to break from the crap.
Even the ones you feel are damn near perfect athletes make you look stupid if you get attached. Roberto Alomar was my favorite player. He could do it all, then he fucking spits in front of the whole world on an umpire (later more than atoned but still)
I bought my 2 year old son a Michael Vick jersey...he looked awesome in it, then he's killing dogs SMH.
Again, 100's of examples. On the flip side the perfect type athletes are hated (Manning, Jeter, Ripken). I'm convinced there are zero teams with zero assholes, thugs, druggies, womanizers, cheaters etc.
I'm a goody two shoes that doesn't condone any of that nonsense but it's beyond rampant throughout the sports. I think it's dumb as hell and irresponsible as hell that LeVeon Bell keeps getting busted for weed but I'm able to be happy as fuck when he rushes for 120 and adds 80 yards receiving...And I've never even smoked a cigarette.
To enjoy sports, especially in this day and age with the ridiculous amount of social media info...you can't get too personal. I love dogs but still rooted for Michael Vick on every team he's played for. Some of you act like whatever the horrible activity the athlete did was to you or your significant other in your anger.
Before social media and quite honestly this site...I knew little to nothing about so many of the horrible things athletes have done. I always just watched the game, highlights and checked box scores. Yeah I heard about Pacman getting in trouble like 7 or 8 times but can't tell you what he did in any of them....I assume he's done the time or he wouldn't be playing or maybe he had the luxury to get out of stuff me or you couldn't...I don't know. I just like the games. I have little desire to know what they do off the field as long as they do the time if they do the crime.
I've despised the Browns since 1982 and hate druggies but I truly hope Josh Gordon finds a way to turn it around. I hope Vick keeps doing the right thing. I want Brandon Phillips to quit having kids in every state. I want LeBron to quit flopping and bitching about calls. I want Aroldis Chapman to be good to women and learn to speak English. I want James Harrison to help the opponent up. I want Joey Votto to fucking smile...but the negative be it small or prison worthy is rampant. I don't condone any of it and give good effort in ignoring it.
Lastly, I blame the news outlets. These guys are nonstop do I g great things with their money, power and high profile contacts. You might hear 1 out of every 100 good thing they are doing but not only do you hear every negative thing a high profile athlete does....they dwell on it ad nauseum.
No one cares about your opinions. In fact, most stop reading your fucking novels 2 lines in.thavoice;1815458 wrote:Dude, Doc was my all time favorite and sported #16 because of him. Local guy got drafted by the Mets in '84, got to catch Gooden in spring training. When he would be back in town in the winter, knowing I was a looked up to those guys, he told me that 'one day I will tell you how they really are'. SUcks as a kid seeing your "idol" do so much shit wrong. BTW..you see Doc and Darryl 30/30? I knew it was bad...but never realized how bad.
Speaking of Chapman and speaking English......heard Encarnacion interview the other day and that fucker STILL cant speak english. WOnder if he picked up french though while up there!
As for bringing Briles in to "guest coach"......Putting aside all the shitstorm around him does it send out an odd message to your team when this supposed offensive guru, Hue Jackson, is hired and within 5 weeks of the season he already is out of ideas/ways to improve and get the best out of that offense?
Thank you for your feedback. It is greatly appreciated.SportsAndLady;1815464 wrote:No one cares about your opinions. In fact, most stop reading your fucking novels 2 lines in.
He's with Toronto, not Montreal, so French isn't exactly a super-common language where he's at.thavoice;1815458 wrote:Speaking of Chapman and speaking English......heard Encarnacion interview the other day and that fucker STILL cant speak english. WOnder if he picked up french though while up there!
Something everybody in this thread can agree with.SportsAndLady;1815464 wrote:No one cares about your opinions. In fact, most stop reading your fucking novels 2 lines in.
Ok, back to the Washington team name, I'll just respond with a link to an ohio university who used to share the same name but decided to change in the 90's. http://miamioh.edu/about-miami/diversity/miami-tribe-relations/mascot-story/like_that;1815447 wrote:I wasn't aware that art briles is a libertarian. Link?
Your political affiliations are getting in the way of when you decide to be a butt hurt bitch. You're taking everyone's word against art and rapistberger as fact but not Hillary's because one article told you so. And im the one deflecting? Lmao, delusional and hypocritical at best. Have fun going out of your way to get extremely offended (when you pick and choose of course). I'm sure you're a treat to hang out with.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/new-poll-finds-9-in-10-native-americans-arent-offended-by-redskins-name/2016/05/18/3ea11cfa-161a-11e6-924d-838753295f9a_story.html
Keep fighting that fight!
And also lol at using the plain dealer to justify being a cry baby. Whichever poster called you a useful idiot, they were spot on.
Only if you're traveling 88 feet per second.sleeper;1815135 wrote:
Missing by a minute and by mile are pretty similar in sports.
Shut up said.salto;1815522 wrote:Only if you're traveling 88 feet per second.
This is where the useful idiot comment comes into play. Did you even read the article? It literally says nothing, especially why the name was changed. I know why, because Dr. Ellison (the author of your link just in case you didn't even read it) was one of my professors at Miami and we went over the topic. This article doesn't even brush the surface on the name change. Miami University's name is dedicated to the Miami Tribe. They have maintained a relationship with the tribe since its founding. Over the course of Miami's time a small minority like you (white people with no connection to the natives) cried foul about the mascot name. The Miami tribe's response in a nutshell? "We dgaf, because we know its not used as a derogatory term toward the miami tribe nor all native americans. Please understand context people...." Since then the Miami Tribe has migrated to several locations in the US and the only federally recognized branch is the Miami Tribe of Oklahoma. It was the leader of the Oklahoma tribe in 1997 that asked the Miami president to change the name. In an effort to maintain a good standing relationship with the Miami Tribe, the president obliged. The relationship is still in good standing amongst many other reasons, and I even had the opportunity to meet the tribe leader.Commander of Awesome;1815501 wrote:Ok, back to the Washington team name, I'll just respond with a link to an ohio university who used to share the same name but decided to change in the 90's. http://miamioh.edu/about-miami/diversity/miami-tribe-relations/mascot-story/
Take it as you will, doesn't change the fact that having Art Brilles at the Browns facility bothers me. Don't think it's a good look for the organization at all and shows poor judgement.
From the article, "like_that;1815529 wrote:This is where the useful idiot comment comes into play. Did you even read the article? It literally says nothing, especially why the name was changed. I know why, because Dr. Ellison (the author of your link just in case you didn't even read it) was one of my professors at Miami and we went over the topic. This article doesn't even brush the surface on the name change. Miami University's name is dedicated to the Miami Tribe. They have maintained a relationship with the tribe since its founding. Over the course of Miami's time a small minority like you (white people with no connection to the natives) cried foul about the mascot name. The Miami tribe's response in a nutshell? "We dgaf, because we know its not used as a derogatory term toward the miami tribe nor all native americans. Please understand context people...." Since then the Miami Tribe has migrated to several locations in the US and the only federally recognized branch is the Miami Tribe of Oklahoma. It was the leader of the Oklahoma tribe in 1997 that asked the Miami president to change the name. In an effort to maintain a good standing relationship with the Miami Tribe, the president obliged. The relationship is still in good standing amongst many other reasons, and I even had the opportunity to meet the tribe leader.
This is an institution making their own decision to help maintain their relationship to a group of people that the University name has been dedicated to for over 200 years. Completely different from the Washington Redskins, where a large majority of native americans don't give a fuck about the name of a mascot of a random professional organization that has no connection to their tribe. There are more white SJWs like you that care about their name, than native americans care. I can't think of a better example of "going out of one's way to be offended." If you really were concerned, you wouldn't call them by their location either, because George Washington owned slaves. Might as well just call them Maryland, since they play in Maryland. I would say the native americans are probably much more concerned about alcoholism and poverty and a little more pissed about the manifest destiny than some mascot that white SJWs are taking completely out of context.
If you want to go ahead and get overworked about art go for it. None of us supported what he did and hell most of us probably agree with you, but we are not going to get our panties in a bunch as much as you are. The last 10+ years of the Browns is enough for any of us to get upset over. It's your wasted energy to go out of your way to get that upset, not ours. Go for it, but don't be shocked when people call you out for being an overdramatic crybaby. You can also just quit watching the NFL and other sports in general if it is that offensive.
That's not in the link you provided, but I found what you were talking about. Casually leaving this part out:Commander of Awesome;1815530 wrote:From the article, "
Dr. George Fathauer, a professor of Sociology and Anthropology at Miami University, met with Miami President Phillip R. Shriver in December 1971 and shared articles written by Native Americans about the racist nature of Indian related sports mascots. Fathauer suggested that the University abandon its use of the name Redskins along with all of the related symbolism. Dr. Shriver, a renowned Ohio historian, argued that any derogatory stereotyping was unintended, but he was very willing to consider the legitimacy of the complaints made by the articles Fathauer brought him. (photo by George Hoxie)
Shriver consulted the Athletic Advisory Board and that body’s general belief was that the use of Miami University's Indian symbols, “if produced and used as authentically and as proudly as possible, can be truly honorific and not in any sense derogatory.” Their final suggestion indicated that a nickname change would need to be made by a vote of the student body.
Letter to the Editor
In the April 4, 1972 edition of The Miami Student, Fathauer’s letter to the editor, Redskins and Hiawabop: Racism at Miami (PDF) appealed for the elimination of the use of the term Redskins and the appearances of the sideline Indian dancing character Hiawabop. Fathauer agreed with the Athletic Board that Miami University had never intended to derogate Indians. However he pointed out that “this is one of the most pervasive aspects of racism; the dominant group is not even aware that its stereotyping is objectionable to a minority.”
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But that doesn't fit your narrative so what ever makes you feel better. Its like facts don't even matter when arguing with you. That being said, after being schooled about this, THIS ISNT EVEN ON TOPIC! The topic at hand is I don't like the browns bring a sexual assault enabler to HQ. If not being able to say that out loud offends you, for some unknown reason, I would suggest to block me.
Agreed.like_that;1815532 wrote: I think we have said enough on this.
No.Crimson streak;1815701 wrote:If we are sitting at number 1 overall, as much as we need a qb it would be so hard to pass on miles garrett. He's rated as a better prospect than von miller was.
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As much as I hate to say it, Garrett would have probably a bigger impact than a qb in this draft class wouldSportsAndLady;1815703 wrote:No.
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This.SportsAndLady;1815703 wrote:No.
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