Ironman92
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Jan 7, 2016 4:24pm
Jeter will be first unanimous
like_that
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Jan 7, 2016 4:28pm
I doubt it, and if he is that would be fucking absurd considering the guys who didn't go in unanimous.Ironman92;1773927 wrote:Jeter will be first unanimous
Ironman92
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Jan 7, 2016 9:12pm
I don't disagree at all. It's idiotic.like_that;1773929 wrote:I doubt it, and if he is that would be fucking absurd considering the guys who didn't go in unanimous.
Laley23
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Jan 7, 2016 10:52pm
No he won't. Trout is the only guy I can think of who might be when the time comes.
Ironman92
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Jan 7, 2016 11:01pm
That will be 20+ more years....a lot can happen in that time.Laley23;1773981 wrote:No he won't. Trout is the only guy I can think of who might be when the time comes.
Mariano Rivera?
Laley23
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Jan 7, 2016 11:18pm
Not sure a closer will ever get 100%.Ironman92;1773982 wrote:That will be 20+ more years....a lot can happen in that time.
Mariano Rivera?
I say Trout because he is past the steroid issue, 5 tool, and might break all kinds of records if he stays healthy. I mean, he may be talked about among the greats it all categories of baseball, not just power/speed/average etc. Only a handful have ever had that, and he started being this good as a rookie at like 19. I just don't see anyone else who would have a shot at unanimous.
Ironman92
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Jan 8, 2016 8:00am
He did not start being anywhere near that good at 19....but point takenLaley23;1773985 wrote:Not sure a closer will ever get 100%.
I say Trout because he is past the steroid issue, 5 tool, and might break all kinds of records if he stays healthy. I mean, he may be talked about among the greats it all categories of baseball, not just power/speed/average etc. Only a handful have ever had that, and he started being this good as a rookie at like 19. I just don't see anyone else who would have a shot at unanimous.
Ironman92
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Jan 8, 2016 8:01am
Hoffman got in the 60's....Rivera blows him out of the water and then add postseason
like_that
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Jan 8, 2016 10:33am
I get ironman's approach on this. He is looking for a guy that every member of the media LOVES. The way these guys vote, if a player hurt their feelz they won't vote for him. Baseball writers are a bunch of crybabies. It's like the time Mo Vaughn won MVP over Albert Belle. Complete joke.
Ironman92
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Jan 8, 2016 11:07am
That was deplorable. For the most part, sportswriters are the worst....but the old baseball guys voting no on Greg Maddux because old times voted no for Mays, Aaron and others. They shouldn't have any so whatsoever.like_that;1774039 wrote:I get ironman's approach on this. He is looking for a guy that every member of the media LOVES. The way these guys vote, if a player hurt their feelz they won't vote for him. Baseball writers are a bunch of crybabies. It's like the time Mo Vaughn won MVP over Albert Belle. Complete joke.
Laley23
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Jan 8, 2016 11:10am
I think they get this stigma about 1st ballot. They vote no because they don't think someone should be 1st ballot and then would vote yes the next year. Of course, there is no next year, cause they get 95%+ of the vote. I wonder if someone like Maddux would've been 100% on his second year??
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 8, 2016 11:17am
That's why I hate all hall of fames. You are either a hall of famer or not. Making a candidate wait an extra year does nothing. What did the candidate do in that year to help improve his case? Absolutely nothing, because he isn't playing. I think all HOFs should have a system where you either get in the first time or you don't. You can have a class of 15 one year, and a class of 1 the next.Laley23;1774055 wrote:I think they get this stigma about 1st ballot. They vote no because they don't think someone should be 1st ballot and then would vote yes the next year. Of course, there is no next year, cause they get 95%+ of the vote. I wonder if someone like Maddux would've been 100% on his second year??
hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Jan 8, 2016 12:23pm
Good. I want the Mariners to have their hat on display finally.Sonofanump;1773787 wrote:Apparently, the BBHOF gave Griffey the option of having his hat backwards on his plaque, he declined.
God no.Ironman92;1773927 wrote:Jeter will be first unanimous
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Jan 16, 2016 8:14pm
Scott Boras did it again.
Got Chris Davis 7/$161 when there was no market this off-season for Davis at anywhere near that number.
How this guy is continually able to get teams to bid against themselves and his mystery teams just astounds me.
They would have been much better off doing something at 4/5 years with Cespedes or Upton at around 100 million and using that other $60 million for pitching.
Got Chris Davis 7/$161 when there was no market this off-season for Davis at anywhere near that number.
How this guy is continually able to get teams to bid against themselves and his mystery teams just astounds me.
They would have been much better off doing something at 4/5 years with Cespedes or Upton at around 100 million and using that other $60 million for pitching.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Jan 18, 2016 10:33pm
Upton to the Tigers.
6/$132.
Wow. His market looked like it had dried up. That's a ton of money for him.
6/$132.
Wow. His market looked like it had dried up. That's a ton of money for him.
lhslep134
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Jan 19, 2016 3:26pm
Azubuike24
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Jan 19, 2016 4:06pm
Amazing how a bum like Joe Blanton gets a guaranteed deal for 4M. The Dodgers. I guess the goal will be to just avoid using him unless it's an emergency.
Heretic
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Jan 19, 2016 4:09pm
Blanton was good in long relief for the Pirates. As a starter, he's been a failure, but in shorter doses, he's shown the ability to be a contributor.Azubuike24;1776743 wrote:Amazing how a bum like Joe Blanton gets a guaranteed deal for 4M. The Dodgers. I guess the goal will be to just avoid using him unless it's an emergency.
Azubuike24
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Jan 19, 2016 5:05pm
That's my point. He'll probably pitch like 40 innings. And has a history of getting shelled. Got 4M.
Ironman92
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Jan 21, 2016 11:52am
Nats looking at Cespedes lol Dusty gets handed some crazy talented teams. They can get Kershaw, Trout and Goldschmidt and still wouldn't win it all.
Ironman92
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Jan 22, 2016 11:34pm
Mets get Cespedes 3/75
hasbeen
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Jan 23, 2016 9:38am
Isn't there a year 1 opt out?Ironman92;1777687 wrote:Mets get Cespedes 3/75
Ironman92
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Jan 23, 2016 12:39pm
I believe sohasbeen;1777700 wrote:Isn't there a year 1 opt out?
hasbeen
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Jan 23, 2016 1:13pm
Which is crazy. If he goes off, with the weak OF class next year (i think i heard that on the effectively wild podcast) he could get even more.
sherm03
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Jan 25, 2016 6:51pm
Have no fear, Reds fans! Bronson Arroyo was in Cincinnati throwing for the Reds yesterday. This season might be saved after all!