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Ironman92
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Dec 18, 2015 12:13pm
The terrible Reds were actually 4-0 during the games I attended last year.
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Dec 19, 2015 1:56pm
Looks like BP is staying in Cincy.
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Dec 19, 2015 2:08pm
Pirates are doing a really great job of dumping salary to sign blah players. I mean, Charlie Morton wasn't that good against teams other than the Reds, but replacing him with Ryan Vogelsang, who's 38 and mediocre? Fuck that noise. They're basically acting like if they stay the course, they're good for the wild card game and not really trying to legit complement their talent. That'd work out better if so many of their young arms haven't missed a lot of recent time with arm troubles (Kingham, Tallion, etc.), meaning they're not as ready to come up and contribute as they would have been.
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Dec 19, 2015 3:11pm
wildcats20;1770365 wrote:Looks like BP is staying in Cincy.
Looking forward to him complaining to the media about losing and him being unhappy with the way things are going by about June. He'll only have himself to blame.
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Dec 19, 2015 4:06pm
Ironman92;1770030 wrote:I say "contender" doesn't matter to him
Well....
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friendfromlowry
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Dec 19, 2015 10:15pm
I haven't been paying attention the past day or two but what happened with BP? All that was left was for him to okay the deal, right?
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friendfromlowry
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Dec 19, 2015 10:22pm
hasbeen;1770182 wrote:For a rebuilding team, it's all about securing plays that have years of team control left. You're trading 2 years of Frazier for (hopefully) ~15 years of other players.
sherm03;1770185 wrote:It's also about building up a farm system that has a bunch of players/talent so when you are in a position to actually contend, you have the prospects available to trade for a big name player that may put you over the hump. Right now, the Reds have a pretty empty cupboard in the minors. So the moves now are to build that up.
I get it. I'm not one of the fools on Twitter complaining to the Reds media. Like I said, I realize they don't need Frazier, Chapman, Phillips, Bruce, etc. to do this poorly. Just going to be a couple more sad seasons at GABP (probably, who knows).
I'm still fascinated with how rebuilding works in baseball, though. The Reds are making these moves and probably won't be competitive until like 2018. Just a lot more planned out long-term in baseball than football or basketball.
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Dec 19, 2015 10:58pm
friendfromlowry;1770421 wrote:I get it. I'm not one of the fools on Twitter complaining to the Reds media. Like I said, I realize they don't need Frazier, Chapman, Phillips, Bruce, etc. to do this poorly. Just going to be a couple more sad seasons at GABP (probably, who knows).
I'm still fascinated with how rebuilding works in baseball, though. The Reds are making these moves and probably won't be competitive until like 2018. Just a lot more planned out long-term in baseball than football or basketball.
The joys of a sport with no salary cap...
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Dec 19, 2015 11:22pm
friendfromlowry;1770420 wrote:I haven't been paying attention the past day or two but what happened with BP? All that was left was for him to okay the deal, right?
Yes....he wanted the Reds to give him a big number to accept the trade.

He has no desire to play on a contender and not even for the manager that will let him do whatever.

He's content to play for a 95 loss team because he can play everyday and no matter how good or bad will be slobbered on by all of the Reds announcers and he need not do anything to have a gigantic contingent of fans. For the Reds he can bat 1st, 2nd or 4th without any worry. If he slumps and bats .225, it doesn't matter. He'll be in there everyday and probably in front of Votto to get some pitches.

How can a player past his prime that has accomplished about everything he's capable of not want to go play for a strong contender? Have a chance to be a postseason winner/hero.....do it a couple times and then have an argument for HOF.

But he's king in Cincy
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Dec 22, 2015 12:42pm
Mike Leake to the Cardinals

5 yr $80 million
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Dec 22, 2015 12:45pm
Ironman92;1770990 wrote:Mike Leake to the Cardinals

5 yr $80 million
He'll be an MVP candidate in St Louis

Watch
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Dec 22, 2015 2:36pm
SportsAndLady;1770993 wrote:He'll be an MVP candidate in St Louis

Watch
He pitched well against the Cubs last year in a small sample size.

I hate that he's on the Cardinals but really like him
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Dec 28, 2015 4:39pm
Chapman traded to the Yankees
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Dec 28, 2015 4:43pm
"So the Yankees gave up RHPs Caleb Cotham and Rookie Davis and INFs Eric Jagielo and Tony Renda. It seems the price did drop on Chapman."

Looks like the reds are trading everyone away, and getting next to nothing in return.

The fact that jocketty waited so long to dump everyone should be his pink slip.
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Dec 28, 2015 4:45pm
The Yankees avoided trading any of their top 5 ranked prospects.
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Dec 28, 2015 4:46pm
I hate Walt. Watching Hoover close out games will be terrible. Chapman was the best in person show.
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Dec 28, 2015 4:58pm
Ironman92;1771681 wrote:I hate Walt. Watching Hoover close out games will be terrible. Chapman was the best in person show.
Frazier the HR champ.

But let's keep BP, Bruce and votto. They've done so much for this franchise! /sarcasm
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Dec 28, 2015 5:25pm
Votto can work a 2 out walk
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Dec 28, 2015 5:26pm
BP is the best 2nd baseman in the game and it's not even close, just ask him
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Dec 28, 2015 7:22pm
3 relief pitchers struck out 100+ last season....they will pitch the 7th-9th innings for the Yankees next season. Also #1-#3 in K ratio
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Jan 6, 2016 6:55pm
Junior gets the call to the Hall. 437 out of 440 ballots. Him and Mike Piazza are the only 2 inductees.

I would like to know who the 3 fucktards are that didn't have Junior on their ballot. Clowns.


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Jan 6, 2016 7:07pm
Junior is my favorite athlete of all time. Loved watching him play. Great memories.
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Jan 6, 2016 8:52pm
Just announced that Ken Griffey Jr was elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame...I'm going to share a fairly lengthy but awesome story that I had with Jr.
My wife and I went to a Reds game on Father's Day back in June of 2007. It was around 100 degrees that Sunday afternoon. The Reds were hosting the Rangers and we were in the front row of the right field seats. This Rangers team happened to have a guy named Sammy Sosa who was in his final season and was sitting on 599 career HR. Needless to say we had planned well for a potential huge happenings in the park as also Griffey Jr was by then playing right field for the Reds.
As the game begins Sosa was not in the Rangers lineup. Griffey was in RF and as he was out there and the Rangers were batting a very large man probably around age 50 was wearing n Adam Dunn jersey but kept yelling and cheering for Sammy Sosa....as the game went on Jr (who was at 580+ HR himself) started messing with this guy. One inning he would turn around and give him the shhh sign...next inning her was giving him the "you're crazy" sign, then he gave him the "you've been drinking too much" gesture....but the guy wouldn't stop cheering for Sosa to get into the game. He and Griffey were both having a great time going at it. Finally, later in the game Sosa is called on to pinch hit and the big Reds fan was going crazy and Griffey was laughing. Sosa made an out and Griffey jogged in for the home half of the inning. As the Reds came back out in the top of the 8th....Griffey had a ball and was coming right to where I was seated on the aisle. For 2-3 seconds I was like "he's giving me a ball" as he got to the wall he looked up at me and said "where's that guy at?"...before I could turn to look for him here he came flying down the steps and hip checks me aside. Griffey tosses him a baseball. The guy starts rotating the ball nervously and he sees it has writing in it. The guy asked him "what's it say? What's it say?"....I told him, that's Sammy Sosa's autograph. The guy couldn't even talk and had the most unbelievable look on his face and the beginning of tears....Griffey saw that he couldn't speak and said "happy Father's Day big guy" and returned to his position.

I'll never forget that 20 second happening....good as it gets, but sure wish he was getting me a ball
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Jan 7, 2016 10:54am
Apparently, the BBHOF gave Griffey the option of having his hat backwards on his plaque, he declined.
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Jan 7, 2016 12:26pm
wildcats20;1773702 wrote:Junior gets the call to the Hall. 437 out of 440 ballots. Him and Mike Piazza are the only 2 inductees.

I would like to know who the 3 fucktards are that didn't have Junior on their ballot. Clowns.


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There will never be a unanimous entry because of the amount of grandstanding retards that vote on it