rrfan
Posts: 1,922
Nov 25, 2015 7:51am
I wouldn't know if JT can throw or not since we never do it.HighRoller74;1765584 wrote:JT can't/won't go vertical, he's essentially Alex Smith. I recall from the ESPN Draft Days special with Devin Smith, that he considered quitting football during the year last year because he wasn't being utilized correctly.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 25, 2015 10:18am
Did you watch the Rutgers game?rrfan;1765660 wrote:I wouldn't know if JT can throw or not since we never do it.
rrfan
Posts: 1,922
Nov 25, 2015 10:21am
Yes I also watched the MSU game from last year when he threw 300+ yds. This is a coaching problem and that falls directly to the offensive coordinator who was a line coach. Sorry but this was a terrible mess this year with talent out the ying yang!Automatik;1765698 wrote:Did you watch the Rutgers game?
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 25, 2015 10:41am
That's what I was getting it. JT can launch it if needed.
I think it's a combo of the coaches and also our WRs being average.
I think it's a combo of the coaches and also our WRs being average.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 25, 2015 11:17am
This has been my feeling about the whole season. They won a NC last year and you had a bunch of guys coming back "smelling themselves" because of how good everyone was telling them they were. Lackluster performance, week after week, made me feel there would be a hiccup along the way. I could see them losing this Saturday.Al Bundy;1765210 wrote:The fans want to win. Some of the actions of certain players make me wonder if they are already looking ahead to finding an agent and getting ready for the combine. I hope I am wrong, but I have a bad feeling about this.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Nov 25, 2015 1:09pm
OSU better come out with a willingness to throw downfield, because #ichigan will put 8 guys up in the box like everyone else has done this season. it's not a lack of talent on the Buckeyes as much as the unwillingness/unpreparedness/inability to throw the ball over the top.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 25, 2015 1:41pm
Which begs the question as to whether Meyer should've brought Cardale out to start the 2nd half against MSU.HitsRus;1765766 wrote:OSU better come out with a willingness to throw downfield, because #ichigan will put 8 guys up in the box like everyone else has done this season. it's not a lack of talent on the Buckeyes as much as the unwillingness/unpreparedness/inability to throw the ball over the top.
It may have been mentioned previously, but just the threat of OSU being able to throw the long ball would've possibly made MSU take a few guys out of the box and open up the running game. I know the weather sucked but MSU would've had to respect Jones' arm.
I think JT is better for Meyer's system but last Saturday was the one case for the QB "musical chairs."
Unlike some previous posts, I don't think JT's going to beat anyone with his arm and I don't think anyone fears OSU's aerial attack when he's in there. He makes his "money" with his legs.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 25, 2015 1:43pm
Good point. Putting Jones out there opens up the offense substantially.BR1986FB;1765774 wrote:Which begs the question as to whether Meyer should've brought Cardale out to start the 2nd half against MSU.
It may have been mentioned previously, but just the threat of OSU being able to throw the long ball would've possibly made MSU take a few guys out of the box and open up the running game. I know the weather sucked but MSU would've had to respect Jones' arm.
I think JT is better for Meyer's system but last Saturday was the one case for the QB "musical chairs."
Unlike some previous posts, I don't think JT's going to beat anyone with his arm and I don't think anyone fears OSU's aerial attack when he's in there. He makes his "money" with his legs.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 25, 2015 1:47pm
OSU also had the wind to their back in that 3rd quarter. It would've been the time to do it but, as they say, hindsight is 20/20.sleeper;1765777 wrote:Good point. Putting Jones out there opens up the offense substantially.
I love Meyer as a coach but this QB situation this year has been a clusterfuck. Whether it was because he thought he "owed" Cardale for him (Jones) returning or what, this QB by committee shit doesn't usually work.
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Nov 25, 2015 2:19pm
Whatever they, if OSU does what they did last week, they will lose
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Nov 25, 2015 10:34pm
For whatever reason they haven't shown it this year, but JT can definitely throw the ball. Last year he completed 64% of his passes for 2800 yards and 34 tds. I have no idea why he seems to only run the ball this year.BR1986FB;1765774 wrote: Unlike some previous posts, I don't think JT's going to beat anyone with his arm and I don't think anyone fears OSU's aerial attack when he's in there. He makes his "money" with his legs.
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Nov 26, 2015 10:37am
Anyone going to the game on Saturday?
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 26, 2015 10:56am
Ohio St must've thought I shelled out $500 to attend last week's game. The joke is on them though because I witnessed the trash play from my love seat.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Nov 27, 2015 5:51am
JT can throw the deep ball well. I forget who mentioned it but he shredded MSU last season with it. Honestly it's not him, it's the coaches
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vball10set
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Nov 27, 2015 7:26am
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 27, 2015 9:15am
Classyposter58;1765990 wrote:JT can throw the deep ball well. I forget who mentioned it but he shredded MSU last season with it. Honestly it's not him, it's the coaches
Yeah the terrible missed deep pass when Miller was wide open was totally on the coaches.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Nov 27, 2015 1:34pm
Exactly. Just because you can throw the ball far, doesn't mean your accurate, or want to do it consistently. As I said on last page he's akin to Alex Smith. CAN throw it deep, but isn't as accurate as needed so takes the safe play, or throwlhslep134;1765996 wrote:Yeah the terrible missed deep pass when Miller was wide open was totally on the coaches.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Nov 27, 2015 3:35pm
Sorry he missed one throw? Lol guy is the big ten single season passing record holder, I trust he's a good passerlhslep134;1765996 wrote:Yeah the terrible missed deep pass when Miller was wide open was totally on the coaches.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 27, 2015 3:52pm
You realize stats don't make someone good right?Classyposter58;1766020 wrote:Sorry he missed one throw? Lol guy is the big ten single season passing record holder, I trust he's a good passer
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Nov 27, 2015 4:03pm
You that big of an idiot? Lol he threw 34 TD's while almost rushing for a 1000 yards and 11 TD's. You're right, you don't need to be good to do thatSportsAndLady;1766021 wrote:You realize stats don't make someone good right?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 27, 2015 4:05pm
You're right. He's basically a mix of tom Brady and michael Vick.Classyposter58;1766027 wrote:You that big of an idiot? Lol he threw 34 TD's while almost rushing for a 1000 yards and 11 TD's. You're right, you don't need to be good to do that
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Nov 27, 2015 4:13pm
I never said that. But to think he's the issue with the offense is laughableSportsAndLady;1766029 wrote:You're right. He's basically a mix of tom Brady and michael Vick.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 27, 2015 4:27pm
Wow. Who the fuck said anything him being the problem?Classyposter58;1766031 wrote:I never said that. But to think he's the issue with the offense is laughable
The issue was you saying because of his stats in 2014, he's a great passer in 2015.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 27, 2015 5:31pm
Classy being a dumb fuck per usual? SHOCKER!!!
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 27, 2015 8:29pm
Barrett is certainly capable of being a good deeper throw passer but the fact of the matter is he's inconsistent and that inconsistency cost us our best chance at a body blow to MSU.
The coaches are responsible for some of the blame. And so is Barrett.
The coaches are responsible for some of the blame. And so is Barrett.