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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Nov 18, 2015 9:51am
Because the owner is a dope?BR1986FB;1764263 wrote:I know Pettine is gone but I think Farmer could weather the storm. Why, I don't know.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Nov 18, 2015 10:08am
I'm hearing that Petine is gone because he won't separate from O'neil. In addition, it sounds like Farmer is gone too which in my opinion is more important.
Looks like a complete start over...again.
Looks like a complete start over...again.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 18, 2015 10:46am
I love when you guys say this shit without providing any sources.Con_Alma;1764286 wrote:I'm hearing that Petine is gone because he won't separate from O'neil. In addition, it sounds like Farmer is gone too which in my opinion is more important.
Looks like a complete start over...again.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Nov 18, 2015 10:47am
O'Neil is running Pettine's system, so he sees no reason to get rid of him. Not to mention that he played for Pettine's father and they are best friends, and Pettine gave him his NFL start.I'm hearing that Petine is gone because he won't separate from O'neil.
They are 2 peas in a pod running the only system either guy knows. It is the one Rex taught Pettine. He has no experience doing anything but what he is right now. It is why there are no adjustments no matter how bad things get.
Pettine thinks his system is gold and that any failure is on the players to implement it properly. It is why Jim O'Neil has been absolved of any blame and there is never any talk of his job security as long as Mike is around. O'Neil has done exactly as Pettine wants.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 18, 2015 11:51am
In a nutshell, Pettine has said that he's involved with the defense but he & O'Neil are in such "lockstep" that it doesn't matter who is calling out the defense because it's going to be the same.IggyPride00;1764300 wrote:O'Neil is running Pettine's system, so he sees no reason to get rid of him. Not to mention that he played for Pettine's father and they are best friends, and Pettine gave him his NFL start.
They are 2 peas in a pod running the only system either guy knows. It is the one Rex taught Pettine. He has no experience doing anything but what he is right now. It is why there are no adjustments no matter how bad things get.
Pettine thinks his system is gold and that any failure is on the players to implement it properly. It is why Jim O'Neil has been absolved of any blame and there is never any talk of his job security as long as Mike is around. O'Neil has done exactly as Pettine wants.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 18, 2015 11:52am
Don't quote me on this but I think it was Greg Cosell who made one of the comments, and no, I don't have a "link."like_that;1764299 wrote:I love when you guys say this shit without providing any sources.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Nov 18, 2015 1:27pm
So you have nothing but a random persons opinion?BR1986FB;1764317 wrote:Don't quote me on this but I think it was Greg Cosell who made one of the comments, and no, I don't have a "link."
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Nov 18, 2015 1:46pm
Is it hard to believe some people actually have sources? I mean I wouldn't trust one from FW or iggy, but some of us know people in the business.like_that;1764299 wrote:I love when you guys say this shit without providing any sources.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Nov 18, 2015 2:02pm
Greg Cosell isnt random.DeyDurkie5;1764335 wrote:So you have nothing but a random persons opinion?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 18, 2015 3:49pm
Yes actually. I put it up there with all the bill cowhers house in strongsville rumors.iclfan2;1764343 wrote:Is it hard to believe some people actually have sources? I mean I wouldn't trust one from FW or iggy, but some of us know people in the business.
At least establish some credibility. " hear such and such" is not as strong of a statement from "I heard such and such from such and such." It all comes off as radio gossip bullshit.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Nov 18, 2015 4:17pm
I agree with you on stupid ass rumors that make no sense, and I wouldn't trust many people on an Internet forum either. But I personally have an in who was correct on such random shit as they really like orchard and may reach for him, and then they did. If someone's source is read it on a message board then yea it's stupid.
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iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Nov 18, 2015 4:20pm
Giving up actual sources could only do harm to that persons job opportunities in the future if it ever got back to the organization or those in charge
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like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 18, 2015 4:26pm
I'm talking about the people who say they heard something when they clearly reds it or heard it on the radio. Just fucking tell us where.iclfan2;1764374 wrote:I agree with you on stupid ass rumors that make no sense, and I wouldn't trust many people on an Internet forum either. But I personally have an in who was correct on such random shit as they really like orchard and may reach for him, and then they did. If someone's source is read it on a message board then yea it's stupid.
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Your case is rare, and not even what I am referring to.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Nov 18, 2015 4:27pm
Greg cosell doesn't know shit about the Browns. 99% of the football world and media not affiliated with Cleveland doesn't know or car about the Browns. He is just giving his opinion based on nothing. And then someone(BRSPN) posts "hearing through sources that this is gonna happen". It's dumbLaley23;1764350 wrote:Greg Cosell isnt random.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Nov 18, 2015 4:27pm
Gotcha. Then agreed. Especially if they heard it from some asshole like grossi or rizzo. The Browns hate local media and grossi or mkc haven't had a source in years
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SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 18, 2015 4:28pm
"Where'd you hear that rumor?"
"Oh this anonymous poster on this message board I post on said it. They have inside sources."
Yeah, i'll continue to not believe that anyone here has "inside" sources within the Cleveland Browns.
"Oh this anonymous poster on this message board I post on said it. They have inside sources."
Yeah, i'll continue to not believe that anyone here has "inside" sources within the Cleveland Browns.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 18, 2015 6:50pm
Who said anything about "sources?" Nobody here has any. The closest I can recall was when lhs knew an agent, or something like that, for Alex Mack awhile ago.DeyDurkie5;1764379 wrote:Greg cosell doesn't know shit about the Browns. 99% of the football world and media not affiliated with Cleveland doesn't know or car about the Browns. He is just giving his opinion based on nothing. And then someone(BRSPN) posts "hearing through sources that this is gonna happen". It's dumb
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Nov 18, 2015 7:20pm
not just sources but "inside sources". :laugh:
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 18, 2015 9:17pm
And even then that wasn't like a real, consistent source, it just so happened we had a long conversation about Mack because he was there for UofA athletes (long story short UofA pre-empted impermissible agent contact by hosting agents on campus).BR1986FB;1764414 wrote: The closest I can recall was when lhs knew an agent, or something like that, for Alex Mack awhile ago.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Nov 22, 2015 4:23pm
Ravens, Lions, and Cowboys all win today. Only three teams left @ 2 wins.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 22, 2015 4:31pm
HighRoller74;1763655 wrote:Mariota, First Career start, First Career game.
13/16 209yards 4TD, 0int, 0Fmb, 158.3 QB Rtg. And most importantly a WIN.
SportsAndLady;1763657 wrote:Derek Carr, 5th game: 18/34 282 yards, 4 TD's, 1 INT
Guess we can add Winston to this list, even though it wasn't his first 5 career games, it was career game #10:HighRoller74;1763658 wrote:Bridgewater 2nd Career Game, 2nd Career Start
19/30 317 yards 0 TD, 0 int, 0 Fumbles, 1 Rushing TD QB rating 98.9, most importantly, a WIN.
19/29, 246 Yards, 5 TD's, 0 INT's.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Nov 22, 2015 5:35pm
You can add the kid who made his first start for Denver today.SportsAndLady;1765099 wrote:Guess we can add Winston to this list, even though it wasn't his first 5 career games, it was career game #10:
19/29, 246 Yards, 5 TD's, 0 INT's.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Nov 23, 2015 12:08am
Watching Paul Brown a Football Life, http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/PB%E2%80%99s-screen-pass-a-hit-/256a842b-2c55-411f-91a3-a4d80664c1b0
Man, Art Modell is a real POS.
Man, Art Modell is a real POS.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Nov 23, 2015 2:24am
All you need to know is that Manziel is going to be the quarterback in this town for a long, long time. Either get on board or GTFO.SportsAndLady;1765099 wrote:Guess we can add Winston to this list, even though it wasn't his first 5 career games, it was career game #10:
19/29, 246 Yards, 5 TD's, 0 INT's.
skank
Posts: 6,543
Nov 23, 2015 7:21pm
It is funny when people reds stuff.like_that;1764378 wrote:I'm talking about the people who say they heard something when they clearly reds it or heard it on the radio. Just fucking tell us where.
Your case is rare, and not even what I am referring to.