Lovejoy1984
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Nov 9, 2015 2:50pm
Fair point. He couldn't possibly be worse.BR1986FB;1762182 wrote:TBH, could he do much worse than GM's that have a) texted fans to "go root for Buffalo" in an expletive filled tirade, b) been found drunk/passed out under their office desk and c) sent texts to the sideline to suggest players & play calls?
I think bringing in Kosar would be kind of a "fanboy" type response from Haslam but Bernie does know QB play which is one thing this team sorely needs.
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BR1986FB
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Nov 9, 2015 3:17pm
This may sound a tad "over the top" but I'm of a firm belief that a "lay" fan who spends their whole Saturday watching CFB, given a draft board, could probably have just as good success in the first three rounds of the draft as guys like Farmer & Dwight Clark have.HighRoller74;1762189 wrote:Fair point. He couldn't possibly be worse.
Even hitting on rounds 1-3 by just picking "name" guys over a 2-3 year period would do wonders for a team like this. I just think the talent evaluation in Berea has been THAT bad since 1999. I can't think Kosar would be much worse with his connections in the league.
Seems like the guys doing the selecting want to get too "cute" or think outside of the box to show that they are a genius (see Mangini with the 2nd round Robiskie/Veikune picks). I mean who in their right mind takes Veikune there? I'd never heard of the guy until they drafted him.
Lovejoy1984
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Nov 9, 2015 4:09pm
I actually feel the same way to an extent. I know we all like to rail on the Gilbert pick in the top 10. But that's in hingsight, most everyone that put out a mock draft, or did a ranking had Gilbert as the top corner, and as a sure fire top 10-15 pick. Where GM's really make their money is finding the late round steals, or UDFA.BR1986FB;1762195 wrote:This may sound a tad "over the top" but I'm of a firm belief that a "lay" fan who spends their whole Saturday watching CFB, given a draft board, could probably have just as good success in the first three rounds of the draft as guys like Farmer & Dwight Clark have.
Even hitting on rounds 1-3 by just picking "name" guys over a 2-3 year period would do wonders for a team like this. I just think the talent evaluation in Berea has been THAT bad since 1999. I can't think Kosar would be much worse with his connections in the league.
Seems like the guys doing the selecting want to get too "cute" or think outside of the box to show that they are a genius (see Mangini with the 2nd round Robiskie/Veikune picks). I mean who in their right mind takes Veikune there? I'd never heard of the guy until they drafted him.
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BR1986FB
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Nov 9, 2015 4:19pm
Agreed but I think someone who watches CFB religiously could say 'I like that guy and that guy" just looking over guys that were left on a draft board and hit just as much as Farmer in earlier rounds. They'd probably have drafted more impact players at the top of the draft than these guys in Berea.HighRoller74;1762205 wrote:I actually feel the same way to an extent. I know we all like to rail on the Gilbert pick in the top 10. But that's in hingsight, most everyone that put out a mock draft, or did a ranking had Gilbert as the top corner, and as a sure fire top 10-15 pick. Where GM's really make their money is finding the late round steals, or UDFA.
A lot of the posters on here are pretty savvy about the college game. They may not be great at finding the depth/UDFA's but they could probably hit on higher picks. Like I said about Bernie, couldn't do much worse.
Ironman92
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Nov 9, 2015 4:36pm
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Nov 9, 2015 4:57pm
I can't wait to see our best pass rusher covering Antonio Brown on 3rd and 8 this week!
BRF
Posts: 8,748
Nov 9, 2015 5:09pm
Fair Hooker was better than anybody we have out there now.
Ironman92
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Nov 9, 2015 5:52pm
Lol'dCommander of Awesome;1762214 wrote:I can't wait to see our best pass rusher covering Antonio Brown on 3rd and 8 this week!
Though I can see stubborn running to get to a 3rd and 8
More times than not the play will be 40 yards downfield on 3rd and 8. Sometimes Ben makes it work. Haven't seen Vick or Landry complete it though.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 9, 2015 5:53pm
I'd take Louis Lipps in a heartbeatBRF;1762218 wrote:Fair Hooker was better than anybody we have out there now.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 9, 2015 6:42pm
The Browns have a pass rusher?Commander of Awesome;1762214 wrote:I can't wait to see our best pass rusher covering Antonio Brown on 3rd and 8 this week!
And Fair Hooker was one of the best names in football.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Nov 9, 2015 6:45pm
Yeah, but we have him cover Sanu on 3rd down instead of rushing the passer. Our DC is a freakin' genius.BR1986FB;1762232 wrote:The Browns have a pass rusher?
And Fair Hooker was one of the best names in football.
BRF
Posts: 8,748
Nov 9, 2015 6:59pm
I'll bet his name would have been blocked on JJ like Ben Gay's was! Ha ha!BR1986FB;1762232 wrote:
And Fair Hooker was one of the best names in football.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Nov 9, 2015 7:05pm
I remembering Dandy Don on Monday night football quipping..."I never met one that was".Ironman92;1762211 wrote:
Ironman92
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Nov 9, 2015 9:17pm
That's kinda funnyFootwedge;1762237 wrote:I remembering Dandy Don on Monday night football quipping..."I never met one that was".
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Nov 10, 2015 10:52am
Browns cut Robert Turbin....fantastic signing there....
Commander of Awesome
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Nov 10, 2015 11:07am
Didn't cost anything. Could pick up T. West lololololololHighRoller74;1762331 wrote:Browns cut Robert Turbin....fantastic signing there....
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Nov 10, 2015 11:15am
With Big Ben out I could see the Clowns actually winning this game. It would suck balls but its a distict possiblity.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 10, 2015 11:20am
smdh....won't even get a 7th for West's sorry assCommander of Awesome;1762340 wrote:Didn't cost anything. Could pick up T. West lolololololol
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Nov 10, 2015 11:53am
He's on his way to Balt practice squad. I'd rather the Pryor experiment fail, we need wr.Commander of Awesome;1762340 wrote:Could pick up T. West lolololololol
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BR1986FB
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Nov 10, 2015 12:17pm
Wouldn't be Steelers Week without some.....
http://www.dawgpoundnation.com/2014/10/06/mike-polk-jr-psa-steelers-week/
http://www.dawgpoundnation.com/2014/10/06/mike-polk-jr-psa-steelers-week/
Lovejoy1984
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Nov 10, 2015 12:20pm
Petrine announced McCown as the starter, if healthy. And no bitonio this week.
BRF
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Nov 10, 2015 12:24pm
"Terrible Hygiene"! Bah ha ha ha!
(in many cases......true)
(in many cases......true)
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BR1986FB
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Nov 10, 2015 12:30pm
No excuses now. Time to see what Erving's got as a starter.HighRoller74;1762354 wrote: And no bitonio this week.
Commander of Awesome
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Nov 10, 2015 12:50pm
sighHighRoller74;1762354 wrote:Petrine announced McCown as the starter, if healthy. And no bitonio this week.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 10, 2015 12:59pm
McCown? For real?