Boomers are the worst.

Tiernan;1746708 wrote:I'd vote for Hillary TWICE...before I ever voted for John "I'll Make Church Mandatory" Kasich once.

Lol, I'm guessing you are in the education field.

HitsRus;1746687 wrote:...and if it came off that way, I apologize, but you have to admit this entire thread is "a general statement against" Boomers.

I refuse to characterize an entire generation with generalities such as the one contained in the meme....

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Right, but that is pretty much the point of this thread. As millenniasl all we hear are delusional general statements coming down from the baby boomers who have no substance or can't take the time to actually research their statements. Perfect example is monty, who you can tell is clearly dumb (voting for Hillary LOL) and is just repeating the same recycled bullshit he probably hears from his other fellow dipshits who don't take the time to think about their broad generalizations.

FatHobbit;1746714 wrote:Lol, I'm guessing you are in the prison system.

FIFY

like_that;1746715 wrote:Right, but that is pretty much the point of this thread. As millenniasl all we hear are delusional general statements coming down from the baby boomers who have no substance or can't take the time to actually research their statements. Perfect example is monty, who you can tell is clearly dumb (voting for Hillary LOL) and is just repeating the same recycled bullshit he probably hears from his other fellow dipshits who don't take the time to think about their broad generalizations.

But I could say the same thing aboutthe writers/makers of this meme.
The whole thread is just name calling, which unfortunately is what a lot of stuff on this site has become. Trolls and semi trolls just trying to be outrageous to get a reaction.

None of this stuff is new....I grew up with the same. My generation being lectured and dissed by our elders, while we complained about the mess that they left us, and how out of touch they are.

It's just the same shit, only 40 years later .

HitsRus;1746731 wrote:
None of this stuff is new....I grew up with the same. My generation being lectured and dissed by our elders, while we complained about the mess that they left us, and how out of touch they are.

It's just the same shit, only 40 years later .

Word.

This thread is just the best thing ever. This is why I keep coming here.

I'd be willing to bet there are some overstatements in the meme, but some of them have some legitimacy to them.

Im curious what the job statistics will say in 40 years.

My mom and dad have held a combined 3 jobs since graduating college. My uncle has held 4 (though, politics...so natural progression from mayor to judge to federal judge, etc). My aunts have held a little bit more (5, 7 and 5 respectively) and my other uncle has held 2.

I definitely think that my moms side of the family is an outlier, but I also feel as though that is MUCH more realistic for the boomers. I just dont know of many millennials who will hold less than 10 jobs in their life...post college (so excluding the bullshit you do to get by)

Whether this is by choice or a sign of the times is up for debate. But, while millennials definitely job hop a lot more, it seems as though a lot of it might be forced.

Laley23;1746736 wrote: I just dont know of many millennials who will hold less than 10 jobs in their life...post college (so excluding the bullshit you do to get by)

That may be conservative. Because there's no loyalty any more and many companies like to "promote from outside", you almost have to change jobs every 2-3 years to advance your career and pay.

In the past, you could advance to a certain degree by just being really competent at your job. But now if your job isn't giving you good opportunities to create value, you're not very attractive to your own employer, much less outside ones. You still need the functional experience, but if that's all you have you'll never be viewed as more than a staff person.

gut;1746739 wrote:That may be conservative. Because there's no loyalty any more and many companies like to "promote from outside", you almost have to change jobs every 2-3 years to advance your career and pay.

In the past, you could advance to a certain degree by just being really competent at your job. But now if your job isn't giving you good opportunities to create value, you're not very attractive to your own employer, much less outside ones. You still need the functional experience, but if that's all you have you'll never be viewed as more than a staff person.

I would say the average is higher than 10, for sure. Just used that number as a starting point for the low end. I'm on my second job (in my field no less, which is more than most of my classmates can say). I can't see myself traveling like this once kids roll around, so who knows how many jobs I'll hold.

And I would be considered accomplished in my field before the age of 30 lol. Definitely a different time. Even if the amount of jobs are the same, it doesn't seem that the same stability and way of life is possible.

Laley23;1746741 wrote: And I would be considered accomplished in my field before the age of 30 lol. Definitely a different time. Even if the amount of jobs are the same, it doesn't seem that the same stability and way of life is possible.

I have a friend who has done fairly well in Pharma....was with the same company for about 10 years, until cutbacks put him back in the job market. He's now heading to his 3rd company in 5 years. By every definition a successful guy, and likely will be with at least 5 more companies before he retires.

If the average successful person works 35 years (which might be being generous, including a couple years off for grad school) before retiring, I'm guessing they might be lucky to have a few jobs lasting 5-10 years, and probably at least 6 other jobs over the remaining 20 years or so. And those two longer positions probably coming late in your career where you've advanced to senior management and stick around longer because of stock options and limited better opportunities in your area.

If you're not in a major city with a lot of opportunities, then you're going to need to be willing to relocate often. I'm not sure that's worth the personal (life) sacrifice, but it's better than being out of work later in life with family and no good local alternatives while being unattractive even to relocate because you allowed your career/skills to stagnate.

My advice these days would be get good experience/progression in 2-3 jobs after college, maybe get an MBA, and two more solid experiences....at that point, you should be upper/mid-management in your mid-30's and then looking for the right role to settle into where, depending on company size, you'll be a VP/officer in 5 years or so.
^^^^not the most appealing path, and certainly not for everyone....those people have earned their money with tough choices and personal sacrifice (not talking the 1% here, but the people right below in top 2-5%). But the more we tax and redistribute, the more those sacrifices just aren't worth it.

Laley23;1746741 wrote: Even if the amount of jobs are the same, it doesn't seem that the same stability and way of life is possible.

Plus, the job market kind of got turned on it's head because 2008 pummeled people's 401k and forced people on the brink of retirement to work another 5 years or so. That created a cascading effect to limit opportunities all the way down, to the point where entry level jobs are still held by people who would have moved up, opening vacancies for recent college grads.

Not counting my own business, I'm on job #4, and I'm 31.

First job was bought by a company that did so purely for the marketing resources. Let go almost all of the employees.

Second job was out of necessity with a company that made me want to boil and scrub my soul every evening. Plus, the pay was an abomination, but you do what you have to do.

Left the second job for the third. I was under-qualified, and I went about scaling up my business and left, as I'm sure I would have been let go eventually.

Currently working for a small company. My business started to wind down, so I grabbed a job there last May. Not really playing to my full strength, but it's a paycheck. No real room for advancement, given the size of the company (about 10 or so).

Millennials can't keep a job because usually they piss off the Boomer owner and or Mgt because they bitch they can't play hacky - sack in the break room instead of actually working. Or the little fucks whine all day they aren't getting paid enough for doing 1/2 as much as I did 30 yrs ago for a 1/4 of the pay. I'm probably only here another 20 - 25 yrs and if I'm lucky the world doesn't completely implode from the total lack of skilled effort the Gen Xers bring to the table.

Tiernan;1746749 wrote:Millennials can't keep a job because usually they piss off the Boomer owner and or Mgt because they bitch they can't play hacky - sack in the break room instead of actually working. Or the little fucks whine all day they aren't getting paid enough for doing 1/2 as much as I did 30 yrs ago for a 1/4 of the pay. I'm probably only here another 20 - 25 yrs and if I'm lucky the world doesn't completely implode from the total lack of skilled effort the Gen Xers bring to the table.

That TRUTH stung a little huh Lowry? I'm sure you're a job-hopper too just like O-trap and the rest of your little buddies. If you hop from bed to bed you're a whore...if you hop from job to job you're not qualified enough to be a whore...at least a whore is dependable.

Tiernan;1746777 wrote:If you hop from bed to bed you're a whore...if you hop from job to job you're not qualified enough to be a whore...at least a whore is dependable.

That made no sense you idiot

Tiernan;1746777 wrote:That TRUTH stung a little huh Lowry? I'm sure you're a job-hopper too just like O-trap and the rest of your little buddies. If you hop from bed to bed you're a whore...if you hop from job to job you're not qualified enough to be a whore...at least a whore is dependable.

Ah, the alcoholic who doesn't think the job landscape has changed in 30 years takes a shot at me for:

a) Being down-sized
b) Leaving a company that uses unethical marketing practices
c) Leaving a job for which I knew I was ill-equipped, knowing they needed someone with a better skill set in that area
d) Starting a business to provide for my household
e) All of the above

Whatever shall I do?

DeyDurkie5;1746789 wrote:That made no sense...

...only to a complete mo-Ron.

HitsRus;1746670 wrote:What? You think I'm lying about 12 1/8%interest rate? ... The first house we tried to get the rate ( when I was 28)was even higher... above 14%. That's not anecdotal ...that's a fact. I could say that that meme is exactly what older people expect from the younger generation ....a bunch of lies and exaggerations and blaming someone else for their rather than actually doing something about it. I could say that, but it would be unfair to characterize an entire generation. Not that that's going to stop you.

Well your claims about the budget being in surplus are demonstrably inaccurate and can easily be refuted by a two second internet search.

There were huge budget deficits throughout the 1980's. The same people who were declaring the impending doom of America during 2010 because of huge budget deficits were doing the same thing in the 80's.

Also it is sad that you have to even put your political bias in there. Even if you think Carter was a bad president he didn't cause stagflation. If anything, the man deserves credit for appointing Paul Volcker who guaranteed Carter would lose by purposely creating a recession to whip inflation. Also, carter deregulated natural gas which drove down energy prices on the supply side.

Also there is no such thing as a business loan for a startup today.

And no millenials are blaming boomers for their problems. We are laughing and the distorted conceptions that many Boomers have about millenials and get discussed in popular media.

Like I said...it is just funny that the people who were hippies or went to discos whne they were in their twenties try to say all this stuff about us.

Don't you remember when everyone thought you guys were going to run the western world into the ground?

BoatShoes;1746822 wrote:Well your claims about the budget being in surplus are demonstrably inaccurate and can easily be refuted by a two second internet search.

There were huge budget deficits throughout the 1980's. The same people who were declaring the impending doom of America during 2010 because of huge budget deficits were doing the same thing in the 80's.

Also it is sad that you have to even put your political bias in there. Even if you think Carter was a bad president he didn't cause stagflation. If anything, the man deserves credit for appointing Paul Volcker who guaranteed Carter would lose by purposely creating a recession to whip inflation. Also, carter deregulated natural gas which drove down energy prices on the supply side.

Also there is no such thing as a business loan for a startup today.

And no millenials are blaming boomers for their problems. We are laughing and the distorted conceptions that many Boomers have about millenials and get discussed in popular media.

Like I said...it is just funny that the people who were hippies or went to discos whne they were in their twenties try to say all this stuff about us.

Don't you remember when everyone thought you guys were going to run the western world into the ground?

You're a millennial?

BoatShoes;1746822 wrote: There were huge budget deficits throughout the 1980's.

So an average of 4.2% of GDP is huge, but an average of 9% isn't?

Lol that meme is truly great.

MontyBrunswick;1746648 wrote:and inaccurate

So at least I got you to admit it's great. We're making some progress here.

I'm on my 3rd job since graduating college. 1st was just a shitty job since I couldn't find a decent one in my field. 2nd and 3rd have been with the same company(was promoted last year) that I just hit 5 years with this month.

Tiernan;1746814 wrote:...only to a complete mo-Ron.

look at the brightside, all of these deadbeat millennials are funding social security for us