Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Nov 12, 2015 6:32pm
I think S&L is salty that PG said the Pacers aren't scared of the Cavs. Nobody can watch him play the last 4 years (3 healthy) and say he isn't s top 10 player.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Nov 12, 2015 7:13pm
Really, flat out top 10? Hmm I hadn't thought about it but you may be right.Laley23;1762782 wrote:I think S&L is salty that PG said the Pacers aren't scared of the Cavs. Nobody can watch him play the last 4 years (3 healthy) and say he isn't s top 10 player.
LBJ
KD
AD
Gasol
Curry
Top 5 is a lock, we can all agree on that?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 12, 2015 7:18pm
Haha, no I'm not salty. I completely forgot about that comment already. It was a dumbfuck thing to say though.Laley23;1762782 wrote:I think S&L is salty that PG said the Pacers aren't scared of the Cavs. Nobody can watch him play the last 4 years (3 healthy) and say he isn't s top 10 player.
I'm more so biased in favor of Wiggins than I am against George.
I admit I could probably do some more research into George's number. I just think Wiggins is going to be top 5 good, so the comparison to George was ridiculous to me.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Nov 12, 2015 7:19pm
Remove Gasol and I'd say top 4 is a lock.Commander of Awesome;1762788 wrote:Really, flat out top 10? Hmm I hadn't thought about it but you may be right.
LBJ
KD
AD
Gasol
Curry
Top 5 is a lock, we can all agree on that?
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Nov 12, 2015 7:21pm
Not helping Gasol's case getting blown out by 50 courtesy of the GSW and blown out by the Cavs, but I'd put him in my Top 5.Mulva;1762790 wrote:Remove Gasol and I'd say top 4 is a lock.
Next up in the discussion for me:
Russell Westbrook
Cousins
Lillard
CP3
Leonard
Butler
Wall
I could see throwing PG's name into that mix, but he'd be last on that list for me.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 12, 2015 7:22pm
Replace Gasol with Westbrook for me.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 12, 2015 7:25pm
Except S&L, who said he's only slightly better than garbage.Laley23;1762782 wrote: Nobody can watch him play the last 4 years (3 healthy) and say he isn't s top 10 player.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 12, 2015 7:28pm
I think COA and I are the most pro-Gasol posters on here and while I know he's staying firm that Gasol is there, I'm with you and moving Westbrook in there and dropping Gasol to 6th.SportsAndLady;1762793 wrote:Replace Gasol with Westbrook for me.
Doing that because Westbrook is finally using all of his tools to his advantage instead of going through periods of pure out-of-control-ness. I've been thoroughly impressed so far.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Nov 12, 2015 7:28pm
Could easily see that, no argument for me. That is the top 6 though IMO.SportsAndLady;1762793 wrote:Replace Gasol with Westbrook for me.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 12, 2015 7:32pm
Westbrook is even more great to watch live.
He is on the court with NBA players, and you can easily see his athleticism is 10x everyone else on the court. It's insane.
He is on the court with NBA players, and you can easily see his athleticism is 10x everyone else on the court. It's insane.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Nov 12, 2015 7:34pm
Same thing for me when I saw Wall few yrs ago. He was sooo fucking fast with the ball in his hand and open court.SportsAndLady;1762798 wrote:Westbrook is even more great to watch live.
He is on the court with NBA players, and you can easily see his athleticism is 10x everyone else on the court. It's insane.
LBJ in person the first time was also a similar experience.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 12, 2015 7:39pm
Yep and when you combine that superior athleticism with an increased "basketball awareness", it's been a ton of fun so far.SportsAndLady;1762798 wrote:Westbrook is even more great to watch live.
He is on the court with NBA players, and you can easily see his athleticism is 10x everyone else on the court. It's insane.
I put that in quotes because I think Westbrook has always had it in him, he just didn't always make the best play.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Nov 12, 2015 8:25pm
Not necessarily right now (young guys have matured and risen). But if you take his last 3 healthy years versus everyone else's 3 healthy years I bet he comes in around the top 10. What he is doing this year, though, has been very impressive.Commander of Awesome;1762788 wrote:Really, flat out top 10? Hmm I hadn't thought about it but you may be right.
LBJ
KD
AD
Gasol
Curry
Top 5 is a lock, we can all agree on that?
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 12, 2015 9:01pm
Chef Curry cooking again tonight. 20 in the first.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 12, 2015 10:51pm
Curry is #2 for
Is Chris Paul still top 10?
Is Chris Paul still top 10?
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Nov 12, 2015 10:54pm
I'd say top 8, with the 6 who were discussed above + Harden. Kawhi is closing fast, though.Ironman92;1762821 wrote:Curry is #2 for
Is Chris Paul still top 10?
F
friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Nov 12, 2015 10:58pm
Still very early, but starting to wonder if GS has a shot at breaking Chicago's 72 win record season.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 12, 2015 11:09pm
Their youth gives them a chance if they continue the hot start thru the 1st of the year. If their stars were a few years older I think they might rest them more for the playoffs but I don't think they will. Wonder how badly Kerr would want that record broken?friendfromlowry;1762823 wrote:Still very early, but starting to wonder if GS has a shot at breaking Chicago's 72 win record season.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Nov 12, 2015 11:16pm
We disagree on Harden, but no reason to beat a dead horse.Mulva;1762822 wrote:I'd say top 8, with the 6 who were discussed above + Harden. Kawhi is closing fast, though.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Nov 12, 2015 11:17pm
They've been debating that on The Starters and ESPN NBA Today podcasts. Both said they had the talent to do so, but will need to stay healthy, and focused. I agree. Only 1 team (I think) has done it, so it would be extraordinary if they did.friendfromlowry;1762823 wrote:Still very early, but starting to wonder if GS has a shot at breaking Chicago's 72 win record season.
Also, I'm a big Cavs fans (obviously), but you can't help but just laugh at what Curry and the Warriors are doing, it's incredible. I didn't think I'd see a better team ball type game than the Spurs from the last time they won it, but I think I'm already being proven wrong on that.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 13, 2015 10:54am
I don't see GSW winning 73. They will run in a stretch of games that is tough. I still think they might not even make the finals. We saw last year they struggled when the game slows down in the playoffs, including the Cavs. They just happened to have the personnel to go small against the Cavs with Kyrie and Love out.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 13, 2015 12:59pm
Cavs beat GSW last year if either KI or Love were healthy. If both are healthy, its a sweep and the games wouldn't be close.
The reality is, the Cavs have the best team in the NBA. Yes, GSW is the defending champions but if we are talking all-world beating teams, Cleveland has it, not GSW.
The reality is, the Cavs have the best team in the NBA. Yes, GSW is the defending champions but if we are talking all-world beating teams, Cleveland has it, not GSW.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 13, 2015 1:02pm
Also the Cavs this year are substantially better than last year on day 1. Jefferson and Williams have been surprise solid contributors instead of Miller or whatever other garbage we had to dip into for last year's finals.
The team this year wins the NBA finals last year even without KI or Love. Imagine just having Mo Williams on the team last year; that alone generates another 8-10 ppg.
The team this year wins the NBA finals last year even without KI or Love. Imagine just having Mo Williams on the team last year; that alone generates another 8-10 ppg.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 13, 2015 1:08pm
Another post I know, but Cleveland has a better shot at hitting 72/73W this year than GSW. I think its entirely possible except I think teams these days opt to rest players rather than continuously piling on wins. I don't even think Cleveland cares if it has home court throughout the entire playoffs so I could see them start resting heavily(especially LBJ, the best player in the league) once they are firmly in the top 4 in the East.
I don't think any team will ever get to 73 wins. There just isn't a good reason to stress your team to achieve that.
I don't think any team will ever get to 73 wins. There just isn't a good reason to stress your team to achieve that.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 13, 2015 1:19pm
Sorry for beating a dead horse S&L but this headline was too good to pass up lol
"Paul George Is Singlehandedly Keeping the Pacers Relevant"
http://www.sbnation.com/2015/11/13/9728062/paul-george-highlights-stats-pacers-relevant
"Paul George Is Singlehandedly Keeping the Pacers Relevant"
http://www.sbnation.com/2015/11/13/9728062/paul-george-highlights-stats-pacers-relevant