DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jul 10, 2015 4:32pm
He was paid for his service which was agreed upon by the hosting place. End of story.isadore;1740265 wrote:of course you think only terms of dollars and cents instead of the sacrifice these service people made and his duty toward them. Well in terms of dollars and cents he could have given the speech for free and that would have left another $120,000 for these service people. He was the commander, it is the least he could have done for those seriously injured and handicapped from carrying out his commands.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Jul 10, 2015 4:54pm
Because of his presence at the event, the charity raised over $2,500,000.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Jul 10, 2015 5:44pm
and they could have raised one hundred and twenty thousand more if he had not charged the charity and taken money that could have been used to help men and women he commanded. He sent them into danger, if he had any sense of obligation to those service people, he would not have taken the money.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Jul 10, 2015 6:50pm
Only an asshole judges another's charitable works. You have no right to tell someone how much and to whom to give. You should rather, concentrate on your own good works and evaluate if you are doing enough .
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Jul 10, 2015 7:30pm
any American has the right to pass judgment on how a man who was Commander in Chief of our Armed Services treats those who sacrificed for our nation at his command. The utter crassness of taking money from a charity established to help service people overcome their wounds and handicaps is nauseating. He ordered them into the situation that caused their injuries and now he makes money off their wounds.HitsRus;1740285 wrote:Only an asshole judges another's charitable works. You have no right to tell someone how much and to whom to give. You should rather, concentrate on your own good works and evaluate if you are doing enough .
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Jul 10, 2015 7:48pm
He made them $ 2 million. He didn't have to speak at all. How much is enough for you?
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jul 10, 2015 8:05pm
They agreed on a price and both parties went forward with the transaction. He made them money and he made his fee.isadore;1740278 wrote:and they could have raised one hundred and twenty thousand more if he had not charged the charity and taken money that could have been used to help men and women he commanded. He sent them into danger, if he had any sense of obligation to those service people, he would not have taken the money.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Jul 10, 2015 8:16pm
He had to speak if he wanted to get paid. And $100,000 dollars was within the regular range of his fees. $120,000 dollars more than they made would be about right. The amount they had to give to get him.HitsRus;1740292 wrote:He made them $ 2 million. He didn't have to speak at all. How much is enough for you?
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Jul 10, 2015 8:18pm
He was Commander in Chief of the American military at a time of war. He sent the people into combat where they received horrendous wounds. Now he charges the charity whose function it is to help them. That is despicable.DeyDurkie5;1740295 wrote:They agreed on a price and both parties went forward with the transaction. He made them money and he made his fee.
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rydawg5
Posts: 2,639
Jul 10, 2015 8:25pm
They could have bought body armor though
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Jul 10, 2015 9:14pm
true, because George Bush sent the troops in before they all could be protected by body armor. Now he get to make money off them.rydawg5;1740301 wrote:They could have bought body armor though
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DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jul 10, 2015 9:34pm
He chose to go into service. He knew the consequences. They agreed on a price for his appearance, simple as that.isadore;1740300 wrote:He was Commander in Chief of the American military at a time of war. He sent the people into combat where they received horrendous wounds. Now he charges the charity whose function it is to help them. That is despicable.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Jul 10, 2015 9:38pm
no it is not as simple as that,DeyDurkie5;1740310 wrote:He chose to go into service. He knew the consequences. They agreed on a price for his appearance, simple as that.
Bush was Commander in Chief, they carried out his plans and strategies, he owes them.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jul 10, 2015 10:04pm
He doesn't owe them anything, that's where you are wrongisadore;1740311 wrote:no it is not as simple as that,
Bush was Commander in Chief, they carried out his plans and strategies, he owes them.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Jul 10, 2015 10:36pm
as commander in chief he doesDeyDurkie5;1740318 wrote:He doesn't owe them anything, that's where you are wrong
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Jul 11, 2015 12:25am
I stand corrected...it was $2.5 million he made for them.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jul 11, 2015 2:45am
He hasn't been CiC in over 6 years. At some point, you have to stop making excuses for Obama by blaming Bush.isadore;1740322 wrote:as commander in chief he does
Our first African American POTUS is an abject failure.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Jul 11, 2015 6:26am
not my CIC. Titles don't make you a leader ....isadore;1740322 wrote:as commander in chief he does
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Jul 11, 2015 7:39am
but he was to the thousands of service people he sent into harms way.Belly35;1740349 wrote:not my CIC. Titles don't make you a leader ....
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Jul 11, 2015 7:43am
1. that is your opinion of Obama, not shared by 10 of millions of other Americans.gut;1740343 wrote:He hasn't been CiC in over 6 years. At some point, you have to stop making excuses for Obama by blaming Bush.
Our first African American POTUS is an abject failure.
2. He was the Commander in Chief who sent us into the wars where these people were injured because of his poorly thought out strategies and his lack of preparations. Their wounds are on him.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Jul 11, 2015 7:45am
He profited off those he had crippled.HitsRus;1740335 wrote:I stand corrected...it was $2.5 million he made for them.
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Jul 11, 2015 8:08am
Sounds like a good businessman.isadore;1740354 wrote:He profited off those he had crippled.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jul 11, 2015 8:54am
No, no he doesn't.isadore;1740322 wrote:as commander in chief he does
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jul 11, 2015 10:11am
Again.like_that;1739867 wrote:Another libtard bringing up bush 6 years later. What's new?
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Jul 11, 2015 10:27am
I figured this must have just happened which is why it's being brought up, but it happened 3 years ago. Makes all of this bitching about it even more ridiculous.