like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 13, 2015 8:31pm
I think lebron will coast like last season but I don't except to be under .500 after 40 games. They needed half of the season to figure out their identity (plus make trades). There is no honeymoon stage this time around.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Aug 19, 2015 10:13am
I'm not going to lie, I'm pretty surprised this Tristan Thompson saga has dragged out this long. He must be incredibly stubborn to go to these lengths and expect a similar deal to Kyrie. I think I read something yesterday that stated the 5-year, $94M deal that he wants would cost the Cavs about $44M in luxury tax. That's absolutely crazy. He's obviously banking on Gilbert doing whatever it takes to win. These greedy bums...
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Aug 20, 2015 9:59pm
JR Smith back. 5m this season, player option for the next year, not sure of the #'s on that one.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Aug 23, 2015 9:35am
Cavs finally going to bring over Kaun, 7-footer from Russia drafted in '08.
Putting pressure on TT I think.
Putting pressure on TT I think.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Aug 23, 2015 11:05am
He is not a true foreign player. Played HS in Florida and went to Kansas for 4 years.sleeper;1746783 wrote:Cavs finally going to bring over Kaun, 7-footer from Russia drafted in '08.
Putting pressure on TT I think.
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Sonofanump
Aug 27, 2015 7:05pm
Irving out until January. Does not matter, as long as they finish in the top 8, they win the east once he is healthy.
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Aug 27, 2015 7:53pm
Gives him fresh legs in the playoffs.Sonofanump;1747525 wrote:Irving out until January. Does not matter, as long as they finish in the top 8, they win the east once he is healthy.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Aug 27, 2015 8:01pm
Probably a good thing. Only thing that is bad, they won't be able to rotate love and lbj with rest as often to start the year. Well, they still could, but likely won't.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 27, 2015 8:04pm
It isnt official that he is out until Jan. THe "inside source" just said he wouldn't be surprised if it was until January. I bet Irving plays in December.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 28, 2015 7:42am
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Aug 28, 2015 8:41am
at this point i'd try to orchestrate a sign and trade with him. he's determined to be a headline all fucking season long and that's not what the cavs need.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Aug 28, 2015 8:42am
Then Thompson is an idiot.
- Rings
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I'll play for #1. Home will always be there.
- Rings
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I'll play for #1. Home will always be there.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 28, 2015 9:08am
Agreed.j_crazy;1747572 wrote:at this point i'd try to orchestrate a sign and trade with him. he's determined to be a headline all fucking season long and that's not what the cavs need.
I posted that because it was from Sheridan. Not sure if he has a mole in Lebron's camp but he was the only one who stuck to his guns about his sources saying Lebron was returning to Cleveland when he did.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 28, 2015 11:39am
Sheridan reported the Lebron story, and he's legit, but spend 10 freaking seconds and look at the byline from the article. "By Michael Scotto". It wasn't "from Sheridan"BR1986FB;1747578 wrote: I posted that because it was from Sheridan. Not sure if he has a mole in Lebron's camp but he was the only one who stuck to his guns about his sources saying Lebron was returning to Cleveland when he did.
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Aug 31, 2015 9:13am
isn't today D-day with Tristan's qualifying offer sheet?
doesn't anyone think it's wierd that he didn't even go out to other teams to get offers? he just expects the cavs to pay 95 million because he wants it, when we all know if he goes out for offers the most he gets is like 60 million. i'm really frustrated with TT as a fan now.
doesn't anyone think it's wierd that he didn't even go out to other teams to get offers? he just expects the cavs to pay 95 million because he wants it, when we all know if he goes out for offers the most he gets is like 60 million. i'm really frustrated with TT as a fan now.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Aug 31, 2015 10:54am
I think other teams wouldn't offer him anywhere near what the Cavs are offering which is why they haven't. They saw the initial offer, 5 years $80M and said "Too much" and left it at that.j_crazy;1747852 wrote:isn't today D-day with Tristan's qualifying offer sheet?
doesn't anyone think it's wierd that he didn't even go out to other teams to get offers? he just expects the cavs to pay 95 million because he wants it, when we all know if he goes out for offers the most he gets is like 60 million. i'm really frustrated with TT as a fan now.
I hope he walks honestly. Go play for some shit team and make less money.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Aug 31, 2015 2:26pm
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 31, 2015 2:35pm
Good riddance. Head back to Toronto and enjoy mediocrity.Commander of Awesome;1747917 wrote:Fuck Him
http://www.si.com/nba/2015/08/31/cleveland-cavaliers-tristan-thompson-contract
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Aug 31, 2015 2:36pm
And less money. A max from Toronto next season is about what the Cavs offered him this season (and less than a max the cavs can offer next season). lol at his diva bitch boy wanting to be known as a "Max" player.lhslep134;1747922 wrote:Good riddance. Head back to Toronto and enjoy mediocrity.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Aug 31, 2015 2:41pm
I have to agree with this. Although signing TT would be nice, he's not needed to win a championship in Cleveland. Love, Irving, and Lebron plus the other role players on the roster are enough to be competing for championships for the next few years. TT is a nice piece, but he's not crucial. If Irving pulled this stunt, no doubt the Cavs would bulk(Irving is obviously a max player though so maybe bad comparison), but TT is holding on to false leverage. I also don't think letting Thompson go will have any impact on Lebron's contract situation for the out years. I think the only way Lebron leaves is if Gilbert completely shits the bed and neglects building a talented roster. TT or not, the Cavs have a talented roster.lhslep134;1747922 wrote:Good riddance. Head back to Toronto and enjoy mediocrity.
Let him walk.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Aug 31, 2015 2:47pm
Also, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Gilbert went to Lebron privately and had a discussion about TT's contract situation. Publicly, Lebron has stated heavily that TT should always be a Cav but privately I imagine Lebron has told Gilbert otherwise. No way Gilbert is going to allow the Lebron leaving door to re-open over $15M dollars. The $80M is more than fair and you can bet Lebron privately has agreed.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Aug 31, 2015 4:45pm
Depends. How do we know that part of LeBron's agreement to return was contingent on an open check book from Gilbert to sign anyone/everyone. I think what LeBron would agree with is that TT is not WORTH that money, but that doesn't mean he'll agree that the Cavs shouldn't pay it.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Aug 31, 2015 6:16pm
This is a lose/lose situation. If Gilbert opens the checkbook to meet his demands, he's setting a precedent for other players to follow. If Thompson will truly ONLY accept the max, and Gilbert refuses, we lose a key piece of our team. To say Thompson isn't important is foolish. He single-handedly owned the offensive glass in the playoffs. However, he's obviously not even close to being worth that money, and I don't think there's ANY way that we can give in to his demands. Disappointing, nonetheless.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Aug 31, 2015 8:30pm
If that were the case, the deal would be done already.Azubuike24;1747959 wrote:Depends. How do we know that part of LeBron's agreement to return was contingent on an open check book from Gilbert to sign anyone/everyone. I think what LeBron would agree with is that TT is not WORTH that money, but that doesn't mean he'll agree that the Cavs shouldn't pay it.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Aug 31, 2015 8:56pm
Andy is just as good as TT if healthy. TT can go suck a big one.Dr. KnOiTaLL;1747986 wrote:This is a lose/lose situation. If Gilbert opens the checkbook to meet his demands, he's setting a precedent for other players to follow. If Thompson will truly ONLY accept the max, and Gilbert refuses, we lose a key piece of our team. To say Thompson isn't important is foolish. He single-handedly owned the offensive glass in the playoffs. However, he's obviously not even close to being worth that money, and I don't think there's ANY way that we can give in to his demands. Disappointing, nonetheless.