2015-2016 Cleveland Cavaliers World Champions!

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Mar 8, 2016 10:21am
Also I'd love to see a game when they just keep feeding the ball the love in the post etc, make him the first option to try and get his confidence back. Even if it would means taking a loss


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Mar 8, 2016 10:22am
Crimson streak;1785158 wrote:The going small thing/ different lineups we won't see much until the playoffs. Basically not showing their hand to other teams. At this point just be healthy for the playoffs, that's all that matters


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I'd rather just put Lebron at the PG spot and move KI to the second unit. Start TT, Shump, JR, LBJ, and Love.
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Mar 8, 2016 10:29am
Crimson streak;1785159 wrote:Also I'd love to see a game when they just keep feeding the ball the love in the post etc, make him the first option to try and get his confidence back. Even if it would means taking a loss
They need to do something there. I've defended him being the third option (hence his numbers decreasing) but even I'm starting to sour on him a bit. Recently, he's just been (really) bad.
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Mar 8, 2016 11:20am
Ironman92;1785105 wrote:Is that right??? They called Lebron for 3 seconds with the ball in the lane going to score?

Maybe the worst call I've ever seen. They won't call a 5 step travel. They will give 6 1/2 seconds to get it inbounds and never call 3 seconds ever....but now they call 3 seconds on a 2 1/2 second in the lane play.
He took at least that five steps. Bad call, correct result.
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Mar 8, 2016 12:38pm
A bit sensationalist, but other than that not entirely incorrect. I think we can still win a championship this season with this roster but it won't be easy.

If we don't win, I'd go ahead and kiss either Love or KI goodbye in the off season.
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Mar 8, 2016 9:39pm
sleeper;1785185 wrote:If we don't win, I'd go ahead and kiss either Love or KI goodbye in the off season.
I didn't always agree with this but I'm starting to, especially if they look in over their heads in the finals.
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Mar 9, 2016 7:41am
I, like most, don't think the Cavs are going to win it this year but does anyone else think that things are going just too well/perfectly for the Warriors? May be wrong, but at some point I'm expecting something bad to happen to them.
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Mar 9, 2016 8:43am
BR1986FB;1785258 wrote:I, like most, don't think the Cavs are going to win it this year but does anyone else think that things are going just too well/perfectly for the Warriors? May be wrong, but at some point I'm expecting something bad to happen to them.
Three months until the finals so there's still a lot of basketball left to be played. If they get there with everyone healthy, Curry still unguardable, and hardly ever losing, then they're extremely blessed by the basketball Gods.
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Mar 9, 2016 9:11am
friendfromlowry;1785271 wrote:Three months until the finals so there's still a lot of basketball left to be played. If they get there with everyone healthy, Curry still unguardable, and hardly ever losing, then they're extremely blessed by the basketball Gods.
Agreed. Before Steph's breakout year, didn't he have a bit of an injury history?
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Mar 9, 2016 9:18am
BR1986FB;1785258 wrote:I, like most, don't think the Cavs are going to win it this year but does anyone else think that things are going just too well/perfectly for the Warriors? May be wrong, but at some point I'm expecting something bad to happen to them.
They are due for an injury to one of their core players.

I wouldn't entirely count the Cavs out this season. They can still do it but holy shit KI and Love need to play better.
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Mar 9, 2016 9:22am
What people don't realize are the cavs are the only team in the NBA that can dictate the pace of the game vs the Warriors. Slow it down make them earn there points by forcing them into very contested threes or make them play inside the 3 point line.


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Mar 9, 2016 9:30am
Crimson streak;1785279 wrote:What people don't realize are the cavs are the only team in the NBA that can dictate the pace of the game vs the Warriors. Slow it down make them earn there points by forcing them into very contested threes or make them play inside the 3 point line.


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Well Lue needs to figure this shit out before the playoffs because I haven't seen significant improvement since he's replaced Blatt.
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Mar 9, 2016 9:31am
sleeper;1785278 wrote:They are due for an injury to one of their core players.

I wouldn't entirely count the Cavs out this season. They can still do it but holy shit KI and Love need to play better.
I agree. Everything has just been too perfect for GS. Now they could glide right through the West and to the championship but one would think they'd face adversity, at some point.
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Mar 9, 2016 9:38am
BR1986FB;1785283 wrote:Well Lue needs to figure this shit out before the playoffs because I haven't seen significant improvement since he's replaced Blatt.
Lue is a garbage hire or more politely put, a panic hire.

I've seen no indication from anything that he's done that gives him staying power as a coach in this league. Lebron's friend status won't be enough long term.
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Mar 9, 2016 10:10am
Crimson streak;1785279 wrote:What people don't realize are the cavs are the only team in the NBA that can dictate the pace of the game vs the Warriors. Slow it down make them earn there points by forcing them into very contested threes or make them play inside the 3 point line.


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Lol what?! The cavs have never been able to dictate the pace against GS. They own us. The only way we beat them in a 7 game series is with a significant injury or Lebron averages 60/20/10.
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Mar 9, 2016 10:16am
My girlfriend & I went over to Boardman last weekend and the guy in one of the stores saw my Cavs t-shirt and said he had gone to the game that Friday night before. We start talking about how tough the Warriors will be and we both agreed that they are going to have to suffer an injury (or something) to Curry for the Cavs to have a better chance. Then the guy says "but I don't want Steph hurt....I want the Cavs to beat them at full strength." I just nodded and though "fuck that, I don't hear Warriors fans saying they won the ring but it was tainted because Love & Irving were out." Yeah, it would be great for the Cavs to beat them at full strength but screw that "they need to be at full strength for it to be legit" crap.
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Mar 9, 2016 12:57pm
SportsAndLady;1785295 wrote:Lol what?! The cavs have never been able to dictate the pace against GS. They own us. The only way we beat them in a 7 game series is with a significant injury or Lebron averages 60/20/10.
Christmas Day and last years finals and regular season games said otherwise. I'd give the Warriors maybe 2-3 games in the last 2 years against the cavs where they actually dictated the pace of the game. And 2 of those were in last years finals when the cavs just literally had nothing left to give being short handed with injuries.


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Mar 9, 2016 1:05pm
Crimson streak;1785362 wrote:Christmas Day and last years finals and regular season games said otherwise. I'd give the Warriors maybe 2-3 games in the last 2 years against the cavs where they actually dictated the pace of the game. And 2 of those were in last years finals when the cavs just literally had nothing left to give being short handed with injuries.


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Yeah, no. I just disagree lol. I don't see the cavs dictating the pace against GS. And I don't think they ever have.
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Mar 9, 2016 1:37pm
SportsAndLady;1785365 wrote:Yeah, no. I just disagree lol. I don't see the cavs dictating the pace against GS. And I don't think they ever have.
The last 2 years the Warriors have averaged 103 points per game against the cavs. If you take away the blow out win this year, they average an almost dead even 100pts a game . And GS averages 115 pts a game so yes I would say the cavs have dictated the pace of the game quite a bit


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Mar 9, 2016 2:32pm
Crimson streak;1785376 wrote:The last 2 years the Warriors have averaged 103 points per game against the cavs. If you take away the blow out win this year, they average an almost dead even 100pts a game . And GS averages 115 pts a game so yes I would say the cavs have dictated the pace of the game quite a bit


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Points per game equals pace of play?

That's a new one.
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Mar 9, 2016 6:52pm
wildcats20;1785390 wrote:Points per game equals pace of play?

That's a new one.
Obviously a slower pace results in lower points. That was my point


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Mar 9, 2016 7:08pm
SportsAndLady;1785365 wrote:Yeah, no. I just disagree lol. I don't see the cavs dictating the pace against GS. And I don't think they ever have.
I think they did in the 2 games they won against them last year. Those were some ugly wins, and there aren't many teams equipped to do that to the warriors.
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Mar 9, 2016 7:11pm
Crimson streak;1785454 wrote:Obviously a slower pace results in lower points. That was my point


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Cleveland is one of the lowest/slowest when it comes to pace in the league and is top 10 in scoring.
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Mar 9, 2016 9:31pm
No Mozgov tonight so.....Over/Under on boogie points at 35.5