2015 NBA Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden State Warriors

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friendfromlowry
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May 28, 2015 11:08pm
Can't believe I have to watch Bogut for 4-7 games. Guy looks like a hobo and probably plays like one would as well.
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May 29, 2015 12:01am
HighRoller74;1731463 wrote:No. Just, No.
Seriously? Hell Joe Dumars even said that him and Isiah weren't as good. They're averaging 46 PPG and 11 APG, all that while having a pretty deep bench. I don't think it's crazy to say the 2015 Warriors are one of the best teams of all time and that's who the Cavs gotta take down. 65 wins, 110 PPG and the #1 rated D in the league. Luckily Cleveland has probably the best player ever on their side


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May 29, 2015 12:06am
Classyposter58;1731496 wrote:Seriously? Hell Joe Dumars even said that him and Isiah weren't as good. They're averaging 46 PPG and 11 APG, all that while having a pretty deep bench. I don't think it's crazy to say the 2015 Warriors are one of the best teams of all time and that's who the Cavs gotta take down. 65 wins, 110 PPG and the #1 rated D in the league. Luckily Cleveland has probably the best player ever on their side

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Well that seals the deal for me.
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May 29, 2015 12:06am
Classyposter58;1731496 wrote:Seriously? Hell Joe Dumars even said that him and Isiah weren't as good. They're averaging 46 PPG and 11 APG, all that while having a pretty deep bench. I don't think it's crazy to say the 2015 Warriors are one of the best teams of all time and that's who the Cavs gotta take down. 65 wins, 110 PPG and the #1 rated D in the league. Luckily Cleveland has probably the best player ever on their side


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What are you drinking tonight?
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May 29, 2015 12:11am
Its definitely not crazy to have them near the top backcourts of all time.

I would have a problem with it, because I would rather both players be regarded as great. Curry is better than great, he is an all time great. But Klay is just a really good player.

Dumars and Isaiah were both great (with Isaiah being all time)
Frazier and Monroe
Porter and Clyde
etc

Curry is better than all of them, save maybe Isaiah. But, Klay is worse than all of the others...
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May 29, 2015 12:15am
Laley23;1731499 wrote:Its definitely not crazy to have them near the top backcourts of all time.

I would have a problem with it, because I would rather both players be regarded as great. Curry is better than great, he is an all time great. But Klay is just a really good player.

Dumars and Isaiah were both great (with Isaiah being all time)
Frazier and Monroe
Porter and Clyde
etc

Curry is better than all of them, save maybe Isaiah. But, Klay is worse than all of the others...
Don't forget Parker/Ginobili. And you have the same stance as I do. Curry is great, Klay is just very good. Give them a couple a years, and lets see where they rank.
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May 29, 2015 12:16am
Al Bundy;1731498 wrote:What are you drinking tonight?
My thoughts as well.

If the Warriors win the championship, maybe we can have that discussion.
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May 29, 2015 12:20am
HighRoller74;1731500 wrote:Don't forget Parker/Ginobili. And you have the same stance as I do. Curry is great, Klay is just very good. Give them a couple a years, and lets see where they rank.
Oh, plenty more. Argument can be made they arent the greatest GSW backcourt ever with Run-TMC (pick any combo of the 3 you want) out there...
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May 29, 2015 12:50am
Classyposter58;1731496 wrote:Seriously? Hell Joe Dumars even said that him and Isiah weren't as good. They're averaging 46 PPG and 11 APG, all that while having a pretty deep bench. I don't think it's crazy to say the 2015 Warriors are one of the best teams of all time and that's who the Cavs gotta take down. 65 wins, 110 PPG and the #1 rated D in the league. Luckily Cleveland has probably the best player ever on their side


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They had 67 wins. I personally would like to see them string together multiple championships (they haven't even won one) before considering them as one of the best.
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May 29, 2015 9:27am
HighRoller74;1731500 wrote:Don't forget Parker/Ginobili. And you have the same stance as I do. Curry is great, Klay is just very good. Give them a couple a years, and lets see where they rank.
You make no sense. I said they might be one of the best back courts of all time to which you think I'm crazy for, and now you say eh they might be


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May 29, 2015 10:19am
I think Curry and Thompson is the second best back court in history; behind Lebron James and Kyrie Irving.
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May 29, 2015 11:16am
sleeper;1731538 wrote:I think Curry and Thompson is the second best back court in history; behind Lebron James and Kyrie Irving.
How I'd rank them.

1. Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen
2. LeBron James and Dwayne Wade
3. Magic Johnson and James Worthy
4. LeBron James and Kyrie Irving
5. Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook
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May 29, 2015 11:26am
Azubuike24;1731547 wrote:How I'd rank them.

1. Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen
2. LeBron James and Dwayne Wade
3. Magic Johnson and James Worthy
4. LeBron James and Kyrie Irving
5. Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook
Those aren't backcourts.
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May 29, 2015 11:31am
lol yeah....

Maybe scoring duos?
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May 29, 2015 11:33am
It went over your heads apparently.
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May 29, 2015 11:35am
Dammit :laugh:
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May 29, 2015 11:41am
Azubuike24;1731547 wrote:How I'd rank them.

1. Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen
2. LeBron James and Dwayne Wade
3. Magic Johnson and James Worthy
4. LeBron James and Kyrie Irving
5. Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook
How I'd rank them:

1. Lebron James and Kyrie Irving
2. Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson
3. Lebron James and Dwayne Wade
4. Lebron James and Mo Williams
5. Lebron James and Eric Snow
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May 29, 2015 11:48am
sleeper;1731557 wrote:How I'd rank them:

1. Lebron James and Kyrie Irving
2. Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson
3. Lebron James and Dwayne Wade
4. Lebron James and Mo Williams
5. Lebron James and Eric Snow

6th would be LeBron James and Dru Joyce.
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May 29, 2015 11:53am
I need to point out that LeBron/Wade in their first year with Miami were far superior to LeBron/Kyrie this year. Check the numbers.

LeBron James and Larry Hughes deserve some love.
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May 29, 2015 12:03pm
One thing I'd love to see is Lebron James guarding Curry. I think he can hold him to less than 10 points per game because I don't think Curry can shoot over him.
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May 29, 2015 12:13pm
sleeper;1731564 wrote:One thing I'd love to see is Lebron James guarding Curry. I think he can hold him to less than 10 points per game because I don't think Curry can shoot over him.
Creates mismatches elsewhere, but if I'm Cleveland, I'd force Barnes, Green, Iguodala and Bogut to win it offensively.
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May 29, 2015 12:33pm
I heard a report saying that andy could be activated for the finals.


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May 29, 2015 12:38pm
Azubuike24;1731565 wrote:Creates mismatches elsewhere, but if I'm Cleveland, I'd force Barnes, Green, Iguodala and Bogut to win it offensively.
That's exactly my point. I think stopping Curry is priority #1 and I believe he can be stopped. That's the matchup I'm looking forward to the most; Curry vs. Shumpert/Lebron.
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May 29, 2015 12:39pm
Crimson streak;1731568 wrote:I heard a report saying that andy could be activated for the finals.


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No chance.