2015 NBA Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden State Warriors

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Jun 9, 2015 11:35am
I love Colin and usually agree with him. And I agree with his premise, but he is ignoring 1 thing. Cavs have LeBron James. That is all you need.
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Jun 9, 2015 11:37am
like_that;1733438 wrote:The second quote brings the lulz, because if the cavs were down 0-2, you know damn well he would be talking about a sweep.
And the sad thing is, the Cavs could be, and SHOULD be, up 2-0.
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Jun 9, 2015 11:55am
I mean lebrons only averaging 41.5 pts 12.5 rebounds and 8.5 assists so far in the finals lol


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Jun 9, 2015 11:57am
Laley23;1733441 wrote:I love Colin and usually agree with him. And I agree with his premise, but he is ignoring 1 thing. Cavs have LeBron James. That is all you need.
Agreed about Colin. Love his show and his takes are usually accurate and hilarious, too. But he likes major market teams. Always has. Never liked Cleveland. And it's showing.


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Jun 9, 2015 12:21pm
SportsAndLady;1733435 wrote:Cowherd driving me insane this morning.

"Warriors comfortably by 6-8 tonight"
"Don't judge the NBA finals by the first two games!!" (No shit..no one is, Colin)
"Lebron was out there with dellavadova, Tristan Thompson, iman shumpert, and James jones..you think that lineup is winning a title?" They're here aren't they, Colin? They're in the fucking finals. If you said that at the beginning of the playoffs okay, yeah. But we are three wins away from a title. Derp.


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He was saying the same thing Monday morning.

I agree with much of what he says, and if it was any other player than Lebron James then I think he would be right in this series. When you have a player like him, who is top 2-3 ever, he makes everyone on his team believe and better. If the roles were reversed and Curry was on the Cavs I wouldnt give them a chance, but James...is just that good.
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Jun 9, 2015 12:23pm
SportsAndLady;1733447 wrote:Agreed about Colin. Love his show and his takes are usually accurate and hilarious, too. But he likes major market teams. Always has. Never liked Cleveland. And it's showing.


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The funny part about that and ESPNs big market bias in general is this has been the most viewed finals in history (so far).


I am not saying the cavs are gonna win this series, but this team is playing hard with a lot of heart. Sick of people making this out to be a cake walk raping for GSW.
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Jun 9, 2015 12:29pm
SportsAndLady;1733435 wrote:Cowherd driving me insane this morning.


"Lebron was out there with dellavadova, Tristan Thompson, iman shumpert, and James jones..you think that lineup is winning a title?"
To answer this question, yes.
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Jun 9, 2015 12:29pm
like_that;1733452 wrote:The funny part about that and ESPNs big market bias in general is this has been the most viewed finals in history (so far).


I am not saying the cavs are gonna win this series, but this team is playing hard with a lot of heart. Sick of people making this out to be a cake walk raping for GSW.
Great games. New teams/markets. MVP vs top 3 of all time. Midwest/west Coast. Def has the makings of being the most viewed of all time if it keeps up.

I dont understand how the pundits are still all over GS. My God, the Cavs beat them on the road, without Irving and are home for 2. Winner of game 3 in a 1-1 finals has won 31 of 37.....
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Jun 9, 2015 12:41pm
like_that;1733452 wrote:The funny part about that and ESPNs big market bias in general is this has been the most viewed finals in history (so far).


I am not saying the cavs are gonna win this series, but this team is playing hard with a lot of heart. Sick of people making this out to be a cake walk raping for GSW.
I was listening to WKNR yesterday, and they were talking about how all of the analytics point to the Cavs having no shot, how Golden State has one of the greatest teams ever, blah blah blah. They proceeded to go on talk about how analytics had nothing to do with Joe Namath and the Jets beating the Baltimore Colts in '69, and how analytics would have never been able to predict the Miracle on Ice. Similarly, this team has something special. While I'm prone to expect disappointment as a Cleveland fan, I don't know that I've ever been more hopeful than I am right now. THIS would be the legacy that LeBron wants to leave. He was told he couldn't win a title, and then that he couldn't win unless he surrounded himself with other all stars. Well guess what, the dust has settled and those all stars are on the sidelines, and here we are. Right in the middle of the battle. A rookie head coach, season ending injuries to perennial all stars, Matthew Dellavedova, James Jones, and Mike Miller playing significant minutes... and yet we're here, with the series tied at a game a piece.

Could there be a better narrative for the legacy left by one of the greatest players of all time? I highly doubt it.
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Jun 9, 2015 12:55pm
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1733456 wrote:I was listening to WKNR yesterday, and they were talking about how all of the analytics point to the Cavs having no shot, how Golden State has one of the greatest teams ever, blah blah blah. They proceeded to go on talk about how analytics had nothing to do with Joe Namath and the Jets beating the Baltimore Colts in '69, and how analytics would have never been able to predict the Miracle on Ice. Similarly, this team has something special. While I'm prone to expect disappointment as a Cleveland fan, I don't know that I've ever been more hopeful than I am right now. THIS would be the legacy that LeBron wants to leave. He was told he couldn't win a title, and then that he couldn't win unless he surrounded himself with other all stars. Well guess what, the dust has settled and those all stars are on the sidelines, and here we are. Right in the middle of the battle. A rookie head coach, season ending injuries to perennial all stars, Matthew Dellavedova, James Jones, and Mike Miller playing significant minutes... and yet we're here, with the series tied at a game a piece.

Could there be a better narrative for the legacy left by one of the greatest players of all time? I highly doubt it.
Analytics can only show you so much. Over the long haul it probably has more to tell than in a short series where some player, some team, can overcome and just get it done.
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Jun 9, 2015 1:07pm
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1733456 wrote:I was listening to WKNR yesterday, and they were talking about how all of the analytics point to the Cavs having no shot, how Golden State has one of the greatest teams ever, blah blah blah. They proceeded to go on talk about how analytics had nothing to do with Joe Namath and the Jets beating the Baltimore Colts in '69, and how analytics would have never been able to predict the Miracle on Ice. Similarly, this team has something special. While I'm prone to expect disappointment as a Cleveland fan, I don't know that I've ever been more hopeful than I am right now. THIS would be the legacy that LeBron wants to leave. He was told he couldn't win a title, and then that he couldn't win unless he surrounded himself with other all stars. Well guess what, the dust has settled and those all stars are on the sidelines, and here we are. Right in the middle of the battle. A rookie head coach, season ending injuries to perennial all stars, Matthew Dellavedova, James Jones, and Mike Miller playing significant minutes... and yet we're here, with the series tied at a game a piece.

Could there be a better narrative for the legacy left by one of the greatest players of all time? I highly doubt it.
And this is why I have the Cavs winning this series. No "analytics", "stats", etc....just "gut feeling."

When Kyrie went down, my thoughts were "oh shit, Lebron's gonna mean REAL business now."

Cavs are doing everything to make this an ugly, gritty, defensive series. That, imo, favors them with the roster they have. Not sexy 3 pointers, not high scoring...just ugly, physical basketball.

Like I said before, this is Rocky Balboa (Cavs) vs Apollo Creed (Warriors.) Most don't think the Cavs have a snowballs chance in Hell.
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Jun 9, 2015 1:10pm
BR1986FB;1733459 wrote:And this is why I have the Cavs winning this series. No "analytics", "stats", etc....just "gut feeling."

When Kyrie went down, my thoughts were "oh shit, Lebron's gonna mean REAL business now."

Cavs are doing everything to make this an ugly, gritty, defensive series. That, imo, favors them with the roster they have. Not sexy 3 pointers, not high scoring...just ugly, physical basketball.

Like I said before, this is Rocky Balboa (Cavs) vs Apollo Creed (Warriors.) Most don't think the Cavs have a snowballs chance in Hell.
Rocky I or Rocky II?
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Jun 9, 2015 1:21pm
Front page of ESPN

"What's next for Kevin Love? Cavs?"

SMH
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Jun 9, 2015 1:24pm
SportsAndLady;1733435 wrote:Cowherd driving me insane this morning.

"Warriors comfortably by 6-8 tonight"
"Don't judge the NBA finals by the first two games!!" (No shit..no one is, Colin)
"Lebron was out there with dellavadova, Tristan Thompson, iman shumpert, and James jones..you think that lineup is winning a title?" They're here aren't they, Colin? They're in the fucking finals. If you said that at the beginning of the playoffs okay, yeah. But we are three wins away from a title. Derp.


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Yeah, and the Buckeyes were out there with their 3rd string QB and come from the candyass B1G conference, you think they are winning the NC?

Stupid f'ing talking heads....and Cowherd is up there with the worst.
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Jun 9, 2015 1:38pm
SportsAndLady;1733462 wrote:Front page of ESPN

"What's next for Kevin Love? Cavs?"

SMH

Fuck ESPN. They should be out covering Brucette Jenner, their espy hero.
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Jun 9, 2015 1:42pm
SportsAndLady;1733462 wrote:Front page of ESPN

"What's next for Kevin Love? Cavs?"

SMH
What's next is a long term contract for Kevin Love in Cleveland.

Dumb story.
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Jun 9, 2015 1:50pm
SportsAndLady;1733462 wrote:Front page of ESPN

"What's next for Kevin Love? Cavs?"

SMH
He watches tonight's game? And they play in it?
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Jun 9, 2015 1:55pm
SECRET MOTIVATION FOR LEBRON JAMES!!!!!


Also, how fucking ridiculous is this?

"Since his injury with the Cavs, Love has become the league's most confusing and polarizing player."


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Jun 9, 2015 1:59pm
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Jun 9, 2015 1:59pm
ernest_t_bass;1733443 wrote:And the sad thing is, the Cavs could be, and SHOULD be, up 2-0.
I dont like this thinking. If GSW are down 0-1 and Cavs up 1-0 going into game 2, it plays out differently.
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Jun 9, 2015 2:18pm
Laley23;1733469 wrote:I dont like this thinking. If GSW are down 0-1 and Cavs up 1-0 going into game 2, it plays out differently.
Agreed Same here. Things in sports play out differently depending on what happened previously. Hear things like that in baseball all the time "well if so and so hadnt got thrown out at third then he scores on that fly ball". Doesnt mean it plays out the exact same in the next pitch, at bat, game, etc in sports.
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Jun 9, 2015 2:31pm
BR1986FB;1733459 wrote:
When Kyrie went down, my thoughts were "oh shit, Lebron's gonna mean REAL business now."

Like I said before, this is Rocky Balboa (Cavs) vs Apollo Creed (Warriors.) Most don't think the Cavs have a snowballs chance in Hell.
lol what? LBJ didn't mean business before? Also, that' a hollywood fictional movie/characters, not real life. Hope this helps.
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Jun 9, 2015 3:44pm
Commander of Awesome;1733473 wrote:lol what? LBJ didn't mean business before? Also, that' a hollywood fictional movie/characters, not real life. Hope this helps.
I would expect an analogy to go over the head of the resident 3rd grader #lolfail #pwn #whateverotherstupidlittlekidspeakIcancomeupwith. Apparently the boyfriend didn't lube up enough last night?

Go Cavs !
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Jun 9, 2015 4:16pm
BR1986FB;1733474 wrote:I would expect an analogy to go over the head of the resident 3rd grader #lolfail #pwn #whateverotherstupidlittlekidspeakIcancomeupwith. Apparently the boyfriend didn't lube up enough last night?

Go Cavs !
You got shot down by your boyfriend again last night? #lolfail #ironywitha3rdgradejokecomebackwitha3rdgradejoke

Go Cavs
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Jun 9, 2015 4:56pm