Our criminal justice system lol

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Apr 22, 2015 3:37pm
sleeper;1723359 wrote:Kinda like racism right?
How so?
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Apr 22, 2015 3:40pm
sleeper;1723350 wrote:I'd love to see the law that says black people have to live in the ghetto.
gosh a ruddies learn a little bit about American History
about redlining and real estate covenants
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Apr 22, 2015 3:41pm
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1723361 wrote:How so?
Most white aren't racist and don't treat people poorly because of the color of their skin but of course the national narrative is completely different.
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Apr 22, 2015 3:41pm
isadore;1723362 wrote:gosh a ruddies learn a little bit about American History
about redlining and real estate covenants
None of which exist in 2015. Time to grow up.
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Apr 22, 2015 3:46pm
sleeper;1723364 wrote:None of which exist in 2015. Time to grow up.
gosh a ruddies past policies and laws have long lasting effects
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Apr 22, 2015 3:48pm
isadore;1723367 wrote:gosh a ruddies past policies and laws have long lasting effects
They certainly do; just like the need for affirmative action and diversity policies will continuously hire/select incompetent people for positions based on their skin color/gender further entrenching negative stereotypes that could be eliminated with policy changes.
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Apr 22, 2015 4:01pm
sleeper;1723370 wrote:They certainly do; just like the need for affirmative action and diversity policies will continuously hire/select incompetent people for positions based on their skin color/gender further entrenching negative stereotypes that could be eliminated with policy changes.
gosh a ruddies two hundred plus years of policy that favored you and yours, but now you whine when there is a little balance.
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Apr 22, 2015 4:25pm
isadore;1723355 wrote:gosh a ruddies do you live in America and know its history?
Unlike you, yes
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Apr 22, 2015 4:27pm
isadore;1723376 wrote:gosh a ruddies two hundred plus years of policy that favored you and yours, but now you whine when there is a little balance.
I've only been alive for ~30 years so I don't care about 170 years ago. Interesting perspective though, discrimination is okay as long as it benefits me. I'm sure this is what MLK wanted.
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Apr 22, 2015 4:37pm
sleeper;1723379 wrote:I've only been alive for ~30 years so I don't care about 170 years ago. Interesting perspective though, discrimination is okay as long as it benefits me. I'm sure this is what MLK wanted.
societies are created by what happened 2000 years ago, 170 years ago, 30 years ago. You are whining because the advantages available to whites have somewhat diminished.
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Apr 22, 2015 4:38pm
superman;1723378 wrote:Unlike you, yes
nothing you have written reflects that.
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Apr 22, 2015 4:47pm
isadore;1723383 wrote:societies are created by what happened 2000 years ago, 170 years ago, 30 years ago. You are whining because the advantages available to whites have somewhat diminished.
I don't see any advantages to being white, at least not institutionalized systematic advantages that minorities get(AA, diversity programs, quotas, reduced requirements, etc). My advantages in life were getting two parents that actually cared about me and my education; additionally they encouraged me that hard work, seizing opportunities, and playing by the rules would lead to a much better life. If that's an advantage, if that's considered "privileged", because my parents happen to be white, then that says a lot more about minorities than it does white people.

If minorities want to talk about equal opportunity, they can start by acting in good faith to remove the racist, bigoted policies that directly benefit them and I will do my part in figuring out what racist, bigoted advantages I receive. Currently, the only advantage I can think of was already mentioned and that was being blessed with two great parents.
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Apr 22, 2015 4:53pm
isadore;1723346 wrote:gosh a ruddies the boundaries between those neighborhoods were established by laws passed by white majority governments. and during de jure segregation it was infinitely more dangerous for a black to being any where or doing anything outside the legally and socially restricted limits than it was for a white person.
How about present tense from you. Would you like to argue that a white neighborhood is as dangerous for black person as the other way around?
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Apr 22, 2015 5:31pm
sleeper;1723386 wrote:I don't see any advantages to being white, at least not institutionalized systematic advantages that minorities get(AA, diversity programs, quotas, reduced requirements, etc). My advantages in life were getting two parents that actually cared about me and my education; additionally they encouraged me that hard work, seizing opportunities, and playing by the rules would lead to a much better life. If that's an advantage, if that's considered "privileged", because my parents happen to be white, then that says a lot more about minorities than it does white people.

If minorities want to talk about equal opportunity, they can start by acting in good faith to remove the racist, bigoted policies that directly benefit them and I will do my part in figuring out what racist, bigoted advantages I receive. Currently, the only advantage I can think of was already mentioned and that was being blessed with two great parents.
Pretty racist statement there. Blessed with 2 great parents? There are plenty of minorities that have that also.
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Apr 22, 2015 5:38pm
Dr Winston O'Boogie;1723389 wrote:How about present tense from you. Would you like to argue that a white neighborhood is as dangerous for black person as the other way around?
there are some white neighborhoods that are dangerous blacks to walk through. And there are some black neighborhoods who it would not be dangerous of whites to walk through.
do you know what de jure segregation is or was.
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Apr 22, 2015 5:43pm
sleeper;1723386 wrote:I don't see any advantages to being white, at least not institutionalized systematic advantages that minorities get(AA, diversity programs, quotas, reduced requirements, etc). My advantages in life were getting two parents that actually cared about me and my education; additionally they encouraged me that hard work, seizing opportunities, and playing by the rules would lead to a much better life. If that's an advantage, if that's considered "privileged", because my parents happen to be white, then that says a lot more about minorities than it does white people.

If minorities want to talk about equal opportunity, they can start by acting in good faith to remove the racist, bigoted policies that directly benefit them and I will do my part in figuring out what racist, bigoted advantages I receive. Currently, the only advantage I can think of was already mentioned and that was being blessed with two great parents.
gosh a ruddies self pity is not a pleasant trait. Blacks have suffered a history of oppression in American History. The long term effects of that history still effect attempts at Black progress. Now many whites whine about any programs that try to provide blacks with something nearer equality.
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Apr 22, 2015 6:57pm
isadore;1723384 wrote:nothing you have written reflects that.
Considering that you're an idiot and a liar. I'm taking that as a compliment. Thanks.
BTW your new nickname is Dracula.
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Apr 22, 2015 7:10pm
superman;1723425 wrote:Considering that you're an idiot and a liar. I'm taking that as a compliment. Thanks.
BTW your new nickname is Dracula.
gosh a ruddies, It is sad when you can not perceive the truth. None are so blind.....
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Apr 22, 2015 7:18pm
sleeper;1723235 wrote:Well I think you missed the point entirely. A human run system is never perfect and never will be perfect. The system of "innocent until proven guilty" and that a guilty verdict has to be "beyond a reasonable doubt" is pretty damn good.
In theory and in practice are not the same thing. And just because perfection can't be achieved doesn't mean the status quo should automatically be accepted.

Airplane safety is pretty damn good right now, and it's never going to be perfect, but I'd wager that after the Germanwings situation that changes are going to be implemented to make it even safer going forward. They aren't just going to say, "well, planes from 50 years ago and modern day small aircraft are still more dangerous, so in comparison things are good and people should just accept that". It's a stupid mindset.
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Apr 22, 2015 7:32pm
isadore;1723376 wrote:gosh a ruddies two hundred plus years of policy that favored you and yours, but now you whine when there is a little balance.
guilt card played!
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Apr 22, 2015 7:54pm
isadore;1723427 wrote:gosh a ruddies, It is sad when you can not perceive the truth. None are so blind.....
Ok Dracula
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Apr 22, 2015 10:00pm
Ytowngirlinfla;1723394 wrote:Pretty racist statement there. Blessed with 2 great parents? There are plenty of minorities that have that also.
"Blessed with 2 great parents" is now racist? LMFAO. I have now seen it all.
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Apr 22, 2015 10:53pm
Mulva;1723223 wrote:Getting it right "most of the time" is hardly a ringing endorsement when discussing the nation with the highest prison population and incarceration rate on earth.

Even if 1% of guilty verdicts are wrong, which is probably a significant underestimate, that results in 22,000+ wrongfully convicted people currently incarcerated (based on prisonstudies.org prisoner population ).

That's no good for society or the economy.
And what about the other end of the spectrum? People who are free due to legal technicalities, not because they are innocent?
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Apr 22, 2015 11:05pm
Ytowngirlinfla;1723394 wrote:Pretty racist statement there. Blessed with 2 great parents? There are plenty of minorities that have that also.
"Black children are significantly less likely than other children to be living with two married parents. In 2014, 34 percent of black children were living with two parents, compared with 85 percent of Asian children, 75 percent of white children, and 58 percent of Hispanic children. - See more at: http://www.childtrends.org/?indicators=family-structure#sthash.uD7CUy9X.dpuf"
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Apr 23, 2015 6:13am
Glory Days;1723491 wrote:"Black children are significantly less likely than other children to be living with two married parents. In 2014, 34 percent of black children were living with two parents, compared with 85 percent of Asian children, 75 percent of white children, and 58 percent of Hispanic children. - See more at: http://www.childtrends.org/?indicators=family-structure#sthash.uD7CUy9X.dpuf"
Facts do not deter the SJW narrative.