Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 8, 2016 9:11pm
It's weird. You watch St. Mary's play and wonder how the hell they have such a good record.
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Mar 8, 2016 9:33pm
Well my alma mater- Wright State- will not be making an apearance
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Mar 8, 2016 11:00pm
Gonzaga finds a way. They'll be dangerous in the tournament I think. Got a few really talented guys and Mark Few has been there a ton.
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ironman02
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Mar 8, 2016 11:02pm
St. Mary's, Monmouth, and maybe even Valpo are now on the bubble. Definitely will be interesting to see if any of them get in.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Mar 8, 2016 11:12pm
I do not want to see any of those as a 14 facing Indiana.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Mar 8, 2016 11:16pm
Really hope some of those teams get in over the 5th Big Ten team or the 6th Big 12 team. It's nice to see the best mid majors in over the middle of the road high major teams.
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Mar 9, 2016 1:05am
Over Iowa and Iowa St, really?Terry_Tate;1785250 wrote:Really hope some of those teams get in over the 5th Big Ten team or the 6th Big 12 team. It's nice to see the best mid majors in over the middle of the road high major teams.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 9, 2016 7:28am
St. Mary's, MAYBE because they beat Gonzaga twice, who is 26th in KenPom, and 3 of their 5 losses were quality (Cal, BYU, Gonzaga). However, despite them being 27-5, they literally have nothing of substance.
Monmouth, no, hell no. One of the biggest jokes of an at-large team being debated in recent memory. People want the bench mob in the NCAA's, I get that, but they are absolutely undeserving. 3 losses to 200+ teams. We would eliminate any big school for losses like that.
Valparaiso, probably the best team of the three, simply has no resume either outside of a win over Oregon State. 5 losses to teams outside the top 100 really hurts, the only saving grace being they beat Iona by 25 (the team that Monmouth lost to twice in the final 3 weeks of the season).
Palm and Lunardi have all 3 out.
Monmouth, no, hell no. One of the biggest jokes of an at-large team being debated in recent memory. People want the bench mob in the NCAA's, I get that, but they are absolutely undeserving. 3 losses to 200+ teams. We would eliminate any big school for losses like that.
Valparaiso, probably the best team of the three, simply has no resume either outside of a win over Oregon State. 5 losses to teams outside the top 100 really hurts, the only saving grace being they beat Iona by 25 (the team that Monmouth lost to twice in the final 3 weeks of the season).
Palm and Lunardi have all 3 out.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Mar 9, 2016 7:58am
I just used those spots as examples. Just saying I would rather see Valpo or St. Mary's in over Team X that is 20-12 and went around .500 in their conference.slingshot4ever;1785251 wrote:Over Iowa and Iowa St, really?
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ironman02
Posts: 4,989
Mar 9, 2016 8:42am
Lunardi actually has St. Mary's and Monmouth as two of his "Last Four In", but Valpo as one of the "Last Four Out".Azubuike24;1785256 wrote: Palm and Lunardi have all 3 out.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Personally, I don't really think any of them should be in, but I still wouldn't mind seeing them get a shot.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 9, 2016 10:17am
There's gotta be some predicting of what the committee will do with Lunardi. Compare Monmouth to Oregon State and there's no comparison.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Mar 9, 2016 10:53am
I'm with Azu there is no way Monmouth should be in. Yeah the bench mob is great but they just don't deserve it. I think St. Mary's and Valpo should get in though.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Mar 9, 2016 12:44pm
With Crean as my coach, neither would ILaley23;1785248 wrote:I do not want to see any of those as a 14 facing Indiana.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Mar 9, 2016 2:03pm
Coached an amazing year this season. Hopefully he has learned from his past shortcomings...it seems as though he has based on the way he did things this year.vball10set;1785355 wrote:With Crean as my coach, neither would I
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Mar 9, 2016 2:47pm
Have to believe the very slim chances of Syracuse making it went out the door today with their loss to Pitt.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 9, 2016 3:07pm
Normally I'm rough on IU, but outside of the Sweet 16 game vs Syracuse where a very good IU team looked absolutely lost on offense, it's hard to blame Crean's coaching. If anything, the blame should be the rosters he put out there and not what he's done with the actual teams. I think most IU fans would agree, that and the off-the-court crap.
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Mar 9, 2016 3:12pm
Syracuse should be out. Even after losing a baker's dozen, Boeheim will find the spurning a terrible injustice. Even he has to hate himself.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Mar 9, 2016 3:15pm
This Duke team has first round loss to a 12 seed written all over it.
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ironman02
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Mar 9, 2016 3:15pm
They were 4-5 during his suspension. That'll be his excuse.reclegend22;1785405 wrote:Syracuse should be out. Even after losing a baker's dozen, Boeheim will find the spurning a terrible injustice. Even he has to hate himself.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Mar 9, 2016 3:18pm
15-8 with him isn't exactly great.
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ironman02
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Mar 9, 2016 3:23pm
Completey agree. But the 4-5 during his absense will still be something that he whines about when they're left out. lolwildcats20;1785411 wrote:15-8 with him isn't exactly great.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 9, 2016 3:25pm
The loss that killed Cuse were the home losses to Pittsburgh and Clemson. If those don't indicate where you stand on the bubble in your own league, nothing else does. The only thing going for them is 5 top 50 wins.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Mar 9, 2016 3:27pm
I've now watched NCST about 10 times this year. They are not bad at all. Gottfried has to be the worst coach in America for not being able to get this team higher than 12th in ACC.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Mar 9, 2016 3:31pm
I don't know if I 100% agree. He has had some flawed rosters until this year, no question. But he also was a bad coach in game. He would take player out that were hot, had no sub patterns, no lineup continuity, etc etc. His offense never looked inside, even with Zeller. He tired them out with his set proclaimed "tough practices" (which he abandoned after last years collapse).Azubuike24;1785398 wrote:Normally I'm rough on IU, but outside of the Sweet 16 game vs Syracuse where a very good IU team looked absolutely lost on offense, it's hard to blame Crean's coaching. If anything, the blame should be the rosters he put out there and not what he's done with the actual teams. I think most IU fans would agree, that and the off-the-court crap.
He he has definitely changed his ways on a LOT of his flaws, and I commend him for that as he seems to be learning. He has set rotations, leaves in hot players and all in all has been fantastic with his rotations this season. He still is lacking in certain areas, which can be corrected. The biggest ones were the things I listed and those seem to be gone.
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Mar 9, 2016 3:52pm
He should really consider increasing his presence on CareerBuilder.Laley23;1785417 wrote:I've now watched NCST about 10 times this year. They are not bad at all. Gottfried has to be the worst coach in America for not being able to get this team higher than 12th in ACC.