HitsRus;1754133 wrote:I'm not worried about Hilary anymore. I think Biden, when he comes out, will make a more formidable candidate....and if he picks Warren as a running mate they could be tough to beat.

Sigh. Classic mistake. People really need to stop paying attention to the media - in particular the right wing media - which made every conservative believe there was a real horse race and that Obama was likely to lose to Romney. Hillary is not in danger except in the minds of people who already hate her or hate dems. Whether you think she is a scumbag or not that is reality.

Prediction Markets still give her a 68% chance of winning the Democratic nod versus 18% for Biden and the Dems a 60% chance of winning. They give her specifically a 43% chance of winning; Jeb a 13% chance; Biden a 13% chance and Rubio a 10% chance.

If anything the markets think she has gained ground as Jeb has plummeted.

She can easily win given the number of takers vs producers plus the composition of the electoral map. In fact, it is nearly impossible for a Republican to win given the historic rise of the dependency class and the amount of tax-free benefits they receive.

QuakerOats;1754156 wrote:She can easily win given the number of takers vs producers plus the composition of the electoral map. In fact, it is nearly impossible for a Republican to win given the historic rise of the dependency class and the amount of tax-free benefits they receive.

Indeed like the highly productive and wealthy Jews and Asians who will overwhelmingly vote Dem. I am not sure if you are in the Anger or the Bargaining stage(s) of grief with this here rationalization.

BoatShoes;1754152 wrote:Sigh. Classic mistake. People really need to stop paying attention to the media - in particular the right wing media - which made every conservative believe there was a real horse race and that Obama was likely to lose to Romney. Hillary is not in danger except in the minds of people who already hate her or hate dems. Whether you think she is a scumbag or not that is reality.

Prediction Markets still give her a 68% chance of winning the Democratic nod versus 18% for Biden and the Dems a 60% chance of winning. They give her specifically a 43% chance of winning; Jeb a 13% chance; Biden a 13% chance and Rubio a 10% chance.

If anything the markets think she has gained ground as Jeb has plummeted.

Ugh. If you are right, and I suspect you are, that is sad commentary. I will admit I don't have a clue on why Democrats think they way they do, and what goes thru their mind. I'm not even sure I understand Republicans, if Donald Trump is truly in the lead. I'm an older guy, and grew up when the media could be trusted to give it to you pretty straight up, but now it doesn't seem that you can get it anywhere. Where does that leave us as a Democracy? ....While I as an 'R" think Biden would be a stronger candidate based on my reading of slanted sources, it doesn't make a difference in the primary since I'm not voting in that anyway. In the general elections, the "D"s could run Mr Ed, with a history of stealing carrots and taking extra hay at other horses expense, and still pull 45% of the vote.

gosh a ruddies. a little truth from Kevin McCarthy in the cynical Republican efforts to prevent the election of Hillary Clinton, soon to be our first female President. All these investigations have been done not to find the truth but to bring down her polling numbers.

isadore;1754271 wrote:gosh a ruddies. a little truth from Kevin McCarthy in the cynical Republican efforts to prevent the election of Hillary Clinton, soon to be our first female President. All these investigations have been done not to find the truth but to bring down her polling numbers.

You realize the Repubs don't control the DOJ and can't initiate an FBI investigation?

But they can force it, with a lot of sound and fury, signifying nothing but opportunism on their part

isadore;1754280 wrote:But they can force it, with a lot of sound and fury, signifying nothing but opportunism on their part

Hardly, the left-wing media runs interference for her just as they did for her rapist business partner, I mean husband.

And if that is not enough, the career liberals at DOJ would never go after one of their own.

BoatShoes;1754160 wrote:Indeed like the highly productive and wealthy Jews and Asians who will overwhelmingly vote Dem. I am not sure if you are in the Anger or the Bargaining stage(s) of grief with this here rationalization.

I understand the reality of welfare, ignorance, voter fraud, math, and the point of no return.

Your team created this Orwellian train wreck; own it.

QuakerOats;1754311 wrote:Hardly, the left-wing media runs interference for her just as they did for her rapist business partner, I mean husband.

And if that is not enough, the career liberals at DOJ would never go after one of their own.

gosh a ruddies I just saw that Jesse Jackson Junior finished his jail sentence, after the FBI and the DOJ put him there. But they are givng Republican Speaker and Kiddie raper Denny Hastert a deal.
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You know the Denny Hastert who handled the House Representative investigation of fellow Republican kiddie raper Mark Foley

She is your candidate - a serial liar, a money launderer, and a horrific record --- OWN HER.

When I posted Mr. Ed in the ealier post, I was alluding to the guy the dems ran against John Kasich... Talk about being caught red handed breaking the law on purpose and full disregard... and he still polled 38%. Mrs. Ed would do even better nationally.

gosh a ruddies personally I would prefer Joe or maybe even Bernie but given the list of clowns, screw ups,corporate shills, bigots and practicing misogynists the Republicans are offering, she is appreciably better than any of them..

Liberals would be absolutely beside themselves if America elects its first women POTUS....and it's Carly Fiorina!

gut;1754396 wrote:Liberals would be absolutely beside themselves if America elects its first women POTUS....and it's Carly Fiorina!

Exactly, with the Hispanic Rubio as her VP ............ the Left would go into seizures.

gut;1754396 wrote:Liberals would be absolutely beside themselves if America elects its first women POTUS....and it's Carly Fiorina!

gosh a ruddies Republican are always whining to let a business person run our government. You would think they would at least get a successful one.

QuakerOats;1754416 wrote:Exactly, with the Hispanic Rubio as her VP ............ the Left would go into seizures.

I want Rubio at the top of the ticket.....you could put Ben or Carly in the two hole. Kasich would be better, but heaven forbid we put some in that actually knows what they doing....because being president should be all about effecting social appearance.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/reminder-tonights-democratic-debate-moderator-was-member-clinton-global-initiative_1045052.html

Liberal debate moderator is Clinton global initiative supporter.

Wonderful

QuakerOats;1756825 wrote:http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/reminder-tonights-democratic-debate-moderator-was-member-clinton-global-initiative_1045052.html

Liberal debate moderator is Clinton global initiative supporter.

Wonderful

Whether you like Anderson Cooper or not, that debate last night was 1000% more substantive than either of the republican efforts. The one in Cleveland was a joke.

Dr Winston O'Boogie;1756964 wrote:Whether you like Anderson Cooper or not, that debate last night was 1000% more substantive than either of the republican efforts. The one in Cleveland was a joke.

That's pretty much CNNs goal. Let the Democrats talk issues, try to get the Republicans to attack each other.

Dr Winston O'Boogie;1756964 wrote:Whether you like Anderson Cooper or not, that debate last night was 1000% more substantive than either of the republican efforts. The one in Cleveland was a joke.

superman;1756991 wrote:That's pretty much CNNs goal. Let the Democrats talk issues, try to get the Republicans to attack each other.

Noticed this as well.

sleeper;1756992 wrote:Noticed this as well.

I could have told you that was the goal before the debate even started.

superman;1756991 wrote:That's pretty much CNNs goal. Let the Democrats talk issues, try to get the Republicans to attack each other.

The Republican debate I was thinking of was shown on Fox - CNN had nothing to do with it. The hosts of the Fox debate spoke as much as the candidates and the debate itself was poor. At least issues were discussed last night.

Dr Winston O'Boogie;1757034 wrote:The Republican debate I was thinking of was shown on Fox - CNN had nothing to do with it. The hosts of the Fox debate spoke as much as the candidates and the debate itself was poor. At least issues were discussed last night.

CNN held a debate at the Reagan Library about a month ago. It was 11 people and almost all of the questions were designed for each candidate to attack each other.