TigerNation10 wrote: Schefter just said on ESPN that he didn't expect the Browns to keep Stallworth but with the lack of WR's I hope they do.

He's way over priced for the no talent, always injured, felon he is.

It's long past time to cut this guy and move on.

For the story regarding Tim Tebow to the Browns there is no substance other than the Plain Dealer article that was posted on here earlier this week where Heckert said that he was impressed with Tebow at the senior bowl. ESPN Insider rumors are a waste sometimes because they take whack job stories posted in local papers and post them as fact.

I still think that Quinn will be fine if we can upgrade the talent around him. If Mangini sticks around for any length of time his role is going to be to pass enough to keep the defense honest and not make mistakes, both of which he is capable of, IMO. Quinn is never going to be asked to be Peyton Manning...which is a good thing.

I think another Browns player just got arrested. His name escapes me. I believe it was a db. Mcdonald?

Al Capone wrote: I think another Browns player just got arrested. His name escapes me. I believe it was a db. Mcdonald?

I thought he was just accused of assault by some nutjob woman that claims she also witnesed Braylon beating up LeBron's mini-friend. Was he actually arrested?

I am trying to think of a scenario where Eric Berry falls to the Browns, but I don't see any mock drafts that have that happening. If there is no Berry who should the browns take? I am not liking a lot of mock drafts out there.

The best available defensive player. Haden or McClain probably

Haden I would be OK with, but I am not overly impressed with McClain. Still don't think either of them should be going in the top 10 of an NFL draft. I think this draft has a lot of depth but not top teir talent.

Perhaps one or two of the QBs will "blow up" during workouts and some teams will become enamored of them. If that happens, then we can hope (1) somebody wants to trade up or (2) Berry falls.

If none of that happens, then I guess Haden will be the pick.

^ My thoughts exactly I just want Berry to fall to the Browns, much like last year I was hoping Curry would fall.

OneBuckeye wrote: I am trying to think of a scenario where Eric Berry falls to the Browns, but I don't see any mock drafts that have that happening. If there is no Berry who should the browns take? I am not liking a lot of mock drafts out there.

Here is Todd McShay's new mock draft:

"Much has been made of the strength of the 2010 defensive tackle class, and the fact that the first two picks in Scouts Inc.'s latest first-round projection are defensive tackles is no surprise.

However, the offensive tackles are coming on strong, and we now project four offensive tackles to come off the board in the first eight picks. Add a pair of defensive ends to the players mentioned above, and you have eight linemen among the first 10 picks.

That leaves little room at the top for skill players and defensive backs, and some of the biggest names on our board have slipped significantly in our latest projection.

Here's how we see things shaking out now that the college all-star games are over and prospects are preparing for the upcoming NFL combine."

1. St. Louis Rams
Record: 1-15
Gerald McCoy*, DT, Oklahoma

The Rams have a poor track record when it comes to drafting defensive linemen early, and now they have a tough choice to make between the stronger, more instinctive Ndamukong Suh and the quicker, more disruptive McCoy. Coach Steve Spagnuolo is looking for defensive linemen who can penetrate, which is why we think McCoy could be the top overall pick.

2. Detroit Lions
Record: 2-14
Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska

The Lions will gladly take Suh here. He won't provide the pass-rush production of McCoy, but he is a force versus the run and he consistently disrupts passing windows thanks to his excellent instincts and long arms.

3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Record: 3-13
Jason Pierre-Paul*, DE, South Florida

The Bucs will consider Tennessee S Eric Berry here, but they are in dire need of a speed rusher and Pierre-Paul is the most explosive one this draft class has to offer.

4. Washington Redskins
Record: 4-12
Anthony Davis*, OT, Rutgers

Oklahoma QB Sam Bradford has enough physical and mental tools to develop into a good NFL starter eventually. However, he also enters the league with enough question marks (shoulder injury, spread offensive system, etc.) for a team like the Redskins to pass and fill one of several other holes. Solidifying its offensive line should be Washington's top priority, and Davis is the most naturally gifted tackle in this year's deep group. Two other options at tackle are Russell Okung (Oklahoma State) and Bryan Bulaga (Iowa).

5. Kansas City Chiefs
Record: 4-12
Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State

Berry could make a huge impact in the Chiefs' secondary as well, but Kansas City has too much work still to do at core positions to spend No. 5 money on a safety. The offensive line needs to be solidified, and that could happen by bringing in Okung, who has a quick first step, good power and a mean streak.

6. Seattle Seahawks
Record: 5-11
Bryan Bulaga*, OT, Iowa

Look for Seattle to pass on a quarterback in the top 10 for the second straight year. Finding a replacement for Walter Jones at left tackle is the more immediate need, and the team will get a safer prospect there than at quarterback. Bulaga still has room to improve in pass protection, but he displays the feet and balance to develop into a very good overall starting left tackle in the NFL.

7. Cleveland Browns
Record: 5-11
Eric Berry*, S, Tennessee

Oklahoma State WR Dez Bryant will be tough to pass up here, but the Browns did spend a pair of second-round picks on WRs Brian Robiskie and Mohamed Massaquoi last year. Berry has the talent and experience to make the kind of impact for the Browns that perennial Pro Bowler Ed Reed made for the Ravens early in his career.

8. Oakland Raiders
Record: 5-11
Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma

Considering the team has used high draft picks on a quarterback (JaMarcus Russell), running back (Darren McFadden) and wide receiver (Darrius Heyward-Bey) in recent years, it would make sense to shift the focus to the offensive line this April. Both of the Raiders' starting offensive tackles (Mario Henderson and Cornell Green) are below average, and Williams has the physical tools and toughness to provide an upgrade at one of those two spots immediately.

9. Buffalo Bills
Record: 6-11
Sam Bradford*, QB, Oklahoma

Offensive tackle and quarterback are chief among the Bills' needs, and they should draft a tackle if Davis, Okung or Bulaga is available. This scenario has them selecting the top quarterback prospect in the 2010 class, though. Bradford is a bit of a project because of his slight frame and the spread system he played in at Oklahoma, but he has the football intelligence and accuracy to be molded into a good starter in the NFL.

10. Jacksonville Jaguars**
Record: 7-9
Derrick Morgan*, DE, Georgia Tech

Morgan will not wow scouts with his results at the combine, but he is a high-motor, technically sound player who can pressure the quarterback and set the edge against the run. He has the physical tools to develop into a good every-down starter at the next level.

11. Denver Broncos** (from 7-9 Chicago)
Record: 6-7
Dez Bryant*, WR, Oklahoma State

Denver still has needs along its offensive and defensive fronts as well as in the secondary, but it will be tough to pass on the clear-cut No. 1 wideout in this year's class should Bryant fall to the Broncos.

12. Miami Dolphins
Record: 7-9
Rolando McClain*, ILB, Alabama

Bryant falling to No. 12 would be a dream scenario for the Dolphins, but if he is off the board, look for Miami to target a top talent in the defensive front seven. McClain is NFL-ready with the size, straight-line speed and work ethic to win a starting inside linebacker job immediately.

13. San Francisco 49ers
Record: 8-8
Joe Haden*, CB, Florida

The 49ers could go in several directions with this pick, including quarterback, offensive line or a pass-rusher, but they wouldn't go wrong taking a top-10 skill player like Haden at this spot.

14. Seattle Seahawks (from 8-8 Denver)
Record: 5-11
C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson

Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen might be a possibility here, but we do not believe he's worthy of a first-round selection. After finding a left tackle at No. 6, it would make sense for the Seahawks to use this pick on a difference-maker like Spiller. Running backs generally are not worth drafting this high, but Spiller has additional value due to his home run ability as a receiver and return man.

15. New York Giants
Record: 8-8
Brian Price*, DT, UCLA

The Giants need to retool the middle of their defense, and Price would be a good player to start with. He possesses the quickness and power to develop into a disruptive playmaker who can get into opposing backfields.

16. San Francisco** (from 8-8 Carolina)
Record: 8-8
Mike Iupati, OT/G, Idaho

Iupati is a fast-rising guard/right tackle prospect who is strong and nasty and would fit in nicely with coach Mike Singletary's hard-nosed brand of football.

17. Tennessee Titans**
Record: 8-8
Carlos Dunlap*, DE, Florida

Dunlap is a bit immature and there are questions about his work ethic, but he also possesses a rare combination of size and athleticism for a defensive end. The Titans have enough veteran leadership on that side of the ball to pull the trigger here on a developmental project like Dunlap.

18. Pittsburgh Steelers
Record: 9-7
Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee

The Steelers would like to use this pick on a top offensive line prospect like Iupati or Trent Williams, but with both off the board, they will avoid reaching for another offensive lineman. They also will avoid stretching for a tackle like Maryland's Bruce Campbell to go for value with Dan Williams, who has the size and strength to develop into the eventual replacement for NT Casey Hampton, who is set to become a free agent.

19. Atlanta Falcons**
Record: 9-7
Kareem Jackson*, CB, Alabama

The Falcons need to improve their secondary talent after getting shredded through the air this past season. Jackson is one of the most underrated prospects in the 2010 class, and has the size, agility and balance to hold up in bump-and-run coverage on the perimeter. Plus, Jackson's instincts and technique are outstanding, so he should be ready to play as a rookie despite leaving school a year early.

20. Houston Texans**
Record: 9-7
Earl Thomas*, S, Texas

Thomas is undersized but physical enough to play safety in the NFL if used properly. Regardless, he's one of the three most talented defensive backs in the 2010 class, and the Texans could use an upgrade at both free safety and cornerback, so Thomas is a fit no matter where he ends up playing.

21. Cincinnati Bengals
Record:10-6
Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma

The Bengals are likely to use an early-round selection on a tight end, and while Gresham is a risk due to knee injuries (torn left ACL in high school, season-ending cartilage damage to right knee in 2009), his combination of size and athleticism is rare and he can stretch the seam effectively.

22. New England Patriots
Record: 10-6
Brandon Graham, OLB, Michigan

Graham is a bit undersized to play a traditional defensive end role, and he does not have the ideal athleticism you want in an outside linebacker. If used properly, though, Graham can excel in the NFL, and he appears to be in Bill Belichick's wheelhouse with his nonstop motor, excellent technique and good overall football intelligence.

23. Green Bay Packers
Record: 11-5
Bruce Campbell*, OT, Maryland

Campbell will turn some heads with his performance at the combine. However, while he might have the best combination of physical tools in this year's offensive tackle class, we expect Campbell to slip to the bottom half of the first round due to injury concerns and below-average technique.

24.Philadelphia Eagles
Record: 11-5
Taylor Mays, S, USC

The Eagles need a replacement for the physical presence former defensive leader Brian Dawkins took with him when he left for Denver. Mays is a bit of a liability in deep coverage and he needs to learn to wrap up more consistently as a tackler, but it is hard to imagine a player with his combination of size, straight-line speed and explosive hitting falling out of the first round.

25. Baltimore Ravens
Record: 9-7
Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State

Wilson is a fast-rising prospect after showcasing his upper-echelon bump-and-run coverage skills at the Senior Bowl. A cornerback-needy team like the Ravens could easily pull the trigger on Wilson late in the first round.

26. Arizona Cardinals
Record: 10-6
Sergio Kindle, DE/OLB, Texas

Kindle is a bit overrated, but we do think he is worth a pick at this point in the first round. The Cardinals could put him to work as a situational edge rusher early in his career while he works on getting bigger and stronger in order to hold up better versus the run.

27. Dallas Cowboys
Record: 11-5
Nate Allen, S, South Florida

Allen is far from a first-round lock, but the Cowboys need to improve their athleticism at safety, and Allen has the right combination of speed and fluidity in coverage to help fix the problem.

28. San Diego Chargers
Record: 13-3
Jahvid Best*, RB, California

Best's draft stock could take a big hit depending on how the medical reports (back/neck, concussion) from the combine look. Assuming he checks out, Best likely will be high on the Chargers' board, along with Dan Williams, fellow RBs Ryan Mathews (Fresno State) and Jonathan Dwyer (Georgia Tech), and DT/DE Jared Odrick (Penn State). A healthy Best gets the nod thanks to his game-breaking speed.

29. New York Jets
Record: 9-7
Arrelious Benn*, WR, Illinois

The Jets need perimeter weapons for QB Mark Sanchez to throw to, and Benn is a better prospect than his 2009 production might indicate. He played through a nagging ankle injury and his quarterback was inconsistent, but Benn shows good initial burst and the ability to generate yards after the catch. Still, he needs to be more consistent catching the ball away from his body and must become a more savvy route runner.

30. Minnesota Vikings
Record: 12-4
Jared Odrick, DT, Penn State

The Vikings have proved they will take the best player available on the board, and in this scenario, Odrick fits the bill and would be groomed as an eventual replacement for aging DT Pat Williams. Other possibilities include Clausen, ILB Brandon Spikes (Florida), TE Anthony McCoy (USC) and C/G Maurkice Pouncey (Florida).

31. Indianapolis Colts
Record: 14-2
Maurkice Pouncey*, OL, Florida

Odrick would make sense if he was still on the board, or the Colts could reach for an athletic offensive tackle like USC's Charles Brown. But Pouncey is a gifted interior lineman with the quick feet, versatility and football intelligence to help the Colts solidify their interior offensive line.

32. New Orleans Saints
Record: 13-3
Sean Weatherspoon, OLB, Missouri

Weatherspoon is expected to turn some heads at the combine with his speed, and we're hearing that some teams grade him out as a mid-first-round pick. We're not quite as high on Weatherspoon because we question his ability to play in space, but the Super Bowl champs are expected to focus on upgrading the speed and athleticism of their defense, and Weatherspoon fits the mold.

I don't see the Rams passing on Suh.

pkebker wrote: I don't see the Rams passing on Suh.

Agreed. This Todd McSheay is an idiot. Suh had twice as many sacks as McCoy.

Footwedge wrote:

pkebker wrote: I don't see the Rams passing on Suh.

Agreed. This Todd McSheay is an idiot. Suh had twice as many sacks as McCoy.

everything ive read about Mcoy and Suh are ranked both 1a and 1b, it actually depends on the what kind of tackle you need. Suh also had two knee operations while at Nebraska so those could have played into his rankings to.

Also, Clausen not in the first round?

yeah thats the first ive seen that

TigerNation10 wrote: Also, Clausen not in the first round?

My first thought also.

I would LOVE to get Berry.

Some said they read on Insider that there are some rumblings about Peppers in Cleveland and Kolb to Cleveland. I called BS.

Keebler wrote: Some said they read on Insider that there are some rumblings about Peppers in Cleveland and Kolb to Cleveland. I called BS.

Sounds good to me.

TigerNation10 wrote:

Keebler wrote: Some said they read on Insider that there are some rumblings about Peppers in Cleveland and Kolb to Cleveland. I called BS.

Sounds good to me.

I think he would fit well in the defense. And Lerner isnt afraid to spend the dough this year. They say he would fit it on the D as like a Demarcus Ware type player...nothing but going after the QB. This would be nice and he we could move S Rodgers to end where he would be a stud with his speed on the outside rush and put Rubin in the middle where he excelled in the last half of the season. The other DE would be C Williams. Although I think they may use S Rodgers as a trade chip for Kolb..... I would be all for this.

If we get Peppers we better switch to a 4-3.

I would hate to see the Cowboys waste another first round pick on a db from USF.

TigerNation10 wrote: If we get Peppers we better switch to a 4-3.

his agent says he wants to play in 3/4 system.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/12865959/agent-expects-pro-bowl-de-peppers-to-leave-panthers/rss

Well then we are a perfect fit, haha.