Cleveland Browns Offseason Talk

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pkebker
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Jan 7, 2010 7:49pm
Neither are worth all the money to franchise tag them...
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pkebker
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Jan 13, 2010 3:23pm
Tom Heckert said in an interview after the press conference on Jan 12, that the most important positions to have are a QB, OL, and DL. Do you think this will be their thinking for the draft and draft for those positions?

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h2thaizzo
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Jan 13, 2010 3:36pm
pkebker wrote: Tom Heckert said in an interview after the press conference on Jan 12, that the most important positions to have are a QB, OL, and DL. Do you think this will be their thinking for the draft and draft for those positions?

(Source is www.ClevelandBrowns.com)
Perhaps, but I don't think it means they necessarily will address them early. Mangini in the past drafted C and LT early, well we already are set at those positions. I don't see us taking RT early, and if a guy is available via free agency, I wouldn't be surprised to see us get him there. I think selecting a QB early only happens if the 6 guys we really wanted to pick were drafted 1-6. There's a lot of depth at DL in this draft, but its not very top heavy.
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pkebker
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Jan 13, 2010 6:37pm
It seems our men at the top are offensive oriented, while the coach is defensive oriented. Which will we focus on?
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devil1197
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Jan 13, 2010 7:03pm
pkebker wrote: It seems our men at the top are offensive oriented, while the coach is defensive oriented. Which will we focus on?
They may be offensive oriented but that doesn't always translate into the draft. Right now there is so much talent on the defensive end and not that much top offensive talent. No RB is worry of a top 10 pick, no WR is either (not high on Bryant imo), and the QB's aren't overly impressive either.
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iclfan2
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Jan 13, 2010 8:30pm
pkebker wrote: It seems our men at the top are offensive oriented, while the coach is defensive oriented. Which will we focus on?
They will do whatever Holmgren wants. Mangini probably has almost no say in what goes on.
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DaBrowns41
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Jan 15, 2010 2:07pm
It doesn't matter what orientation you are, you take the BPA. You don't say, well, I know Berry, McCoy, and Suh are sitting there, but we need a WR worse, and take Dez Bryant.

You take the BPA, especially on a team like ours where no matter what position you take, that player will be able to fill in and play.

Even if we took a NT at #1, we could move Rogers to DE. Even if we took an OT at #1, we could move him to RT.

The only position I don't want to draft this year is QB's. There are three QB's in this draft I would like to take. Bradford, Clausen, and John Skelton, and I'm not touching Bradford or Clausen unless they slip into the second, which won't happen. Skelton will be around in round 5 or so, and makes a nice project.
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pkebker
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Jan 15, 2010 2:18pm
No QB period.

Other than that, I agree with you.
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DaBrowns41
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Jan 15, 2010 2:22pm
pkebker wrote: No QB period.

Other than that, I agree with you.
Well, with 11 picks, I don't think it'd hurt to bring a project in.

But I refuse to take a QB in the first 3-4 rounds.
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pkebker
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Jan 15, 2010 5:33pm
It seems like 'projects' virtually never pan out in both basketball and football.
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DaBrowns41
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Jan 15, 2010 5:34pm
pkebker wrote: It seems like 'projects' virtually never pan out in both basketball and football.
True, but that's what most later round picks end up being. You usually take a guy that has a high upside in hopes of coaching him up to a contributor.
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pkebker
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Jan 15, 2010 5:38pm
I have always felt that later rounds is a good time to show interest in the smaller school players. Players that have potentional but played on small stages. I think there are always a few 'steals' like this in every draft.
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louy57
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Jan 15, 2010 6:17pm
Jevan Snead ole miss round three
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DaBrowns41
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Jan 15, 2010 6:21pm
louy57 wrote: Jevan Snead ole miss round three

Snead will be lucky to be drafted in round 5.
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louy57
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Jan 15, 2010 6:24pm
who has qb rankings where they will be drafted ?
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DaBrowns41
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Jan 15, 2010 6:32pm
1. Jimmy Clausen (4)
2. Sam Bradford (14)
3. Colt McCoy (61)
4. Tim Tebow (64)
5. Sean Canfield (73)
6. Tony Pike (91)

Those are the 6 QB's who made my top 100.
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pkebker
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Jan 15, 2010 8:06pm
Who is Sean Canfield?
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louy57
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Jan 15, 2010 8:23pm
You have McCoy over Tebow LOL
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louy57
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Jan 15, 2010 8:29pm
Colt McCoy doesn't make reads. He lacks an NFL arm. He's small and fragile (see the scrimmage against Alabama). He needs to transition into an NFL offense and learn how to play under center. I don't see why he would be any sort of NFL prospect
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pkebker
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Jan 15, 2010 8:31pm
Tim Tebow's list of improvements is just as long...
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louy57
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Jan 15, 2010 8:32pm
Bradford
Clausen
Tebow
and then i am gonna say snead,crompton,pike,canfield all will go in second third rounds
McCoy 5th rounder i hope we dont take him he sucks
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louy57
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Jan 15, 2010 8:35pm
Tebow is gonna prove eveyone wrong ! He is a winner i would take him in a heart beat !
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devil1197
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Jan 15, 2010 10:26pm
Winner at the college level means jack shit in the NFL lol.
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pkebker
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Jan 16, 2010 10:41am
Tebow would be good only as a wildcat QB...Not an everydown QB/starter
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louy57
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Jan 16, 2010 1:11pm
pkebker wrote: Tebow would be good only as a wildcat QB...Not an everydown QB/starter
How do you know cause someone else said so ?