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buckeyes_woowee
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Mar 6, 2010 10:14pm
That would be a solid pick up. Familiar with Ryan's defense
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Mar 6, 2010 10:19pm
Starting ILB for a 3rd rounder.
Sounds good to me.
Sounds good to me.
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Al Capone
Posts: 1,727
Mar 6, 2010 11:10pm
Looks like the free agents are treating Cleveland like the plague.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Mar 6, 2010 11:13pm
Like the one you got from graduating middle school? Cool.Al Capone wrote: Looks like the free agents are treating Cleveland like the plaque.
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miller45452003
Posts: 673
Mar 7, 2010 12:57am
RAPISTBERGER!!!!!!!Al Capone wrote: Looks like the free agents are treating Cleveland like the plague.
KnightRyder
Posts: 1,428
Mar 7, 2010 9:57am
werent the steelers one of the teams the browns defeated late last season with that bad defense the browns threw out there?devil1197 wrote:If you didn't notice, we played a bunch of shitty teams at the end of the year.KnightRyder wrote:actually it was the steelers offense that won games and championships for then not their defense. the steelers had a good ground attack and would win the time of possesion battle big time. the steelers defense was normally parked on the bench for 40 plus minutes a game. i seen the steelers hold the ball for 8 minutes on one possession and not even score. the browns need to focus on thier running game and be a physical football team. if you didnt notice the browns running game finished the year strong. and the defense started playing better at the same point.devil1197 wrote:Cleveland had the #32 offense and #31 defense. Yes the defense was that bad.sleeper wrote: I didn't think the defense was that bad last year so I'm not sure why everyone is all about drafting defense. Sure there are some needs, but its clear the problem with the Browns is a dismal offense. Brady and DA are both jokes, we have no premier WR's, no TE, and no depth at RB. Our O-line is okay, on one side, and terrible on the other.
I'm no expert on football, but it seems every year Browns fans preach this "use all the picks for defense" when its clear that its our offense that is the problem.
And seriously, Cribbs getting near 6 million a year? LOL
If you are a crappy team like Cleveland located in a division where defense has shown to win games, you build your defense 1st.
The Steelers and Ravens have proven that a nasty defense will take you places behind an okay offense.
Defense wins championships, end of story. You cannot win against the Steelers, Ravens, and now Cincy (who improved their defense a lot) with the guys we have overall on the defensive side. We have the coaching over there but now we need the athletes.
Non
Posts: 9,517
Mar 7, 2010 10:30am
Yeah but they still finished 5-11 and in last place. Every other team in the division had a winning record and was at least four games ahead.
werent the steelers one of the teams the browns defeated late last season with that bad defense the browns threw out there?
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 7, 2010 10:52am
Hey, asshole...the only teams that have SIGNED free agents are those that OVERPAID. The Browns have 3 free agents in town TODAY (Fujita-met yesterday and stayed overnight, Pashos and a 3rd, unidentified FA). As I've been stating ALL ALONG, the Browns are working the TRADE avenue and this shit doesn't happen overnight.Al Capone wrote: Looks like the free agents are treating Cleveland like the plague.
Seems like you're more impatient that we haven't signed any FA's than Browns fans. Closet Browns fan OR you just haven't come out of the closet, period?
Free agency, for most, is going slow for everybody except those who GROSSLY overpaid (Chicago, Detroit, Miami for Dansby).
Things will pick up now that most of the OVERPAID FA's have signed.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 7, 2010 10:53am
BTW....the David Carr rumors are bogus, thank God. Just his agent trying to drum up a market for him.
Non
Posts: 9,517
Mar 7, 2010 10:56am
I can't see picking up a veteran QB just to have one.
Guys like Carr and Delhomme stink and would just be making the situation worse.
Guys like Carr and Delhomme stink and would just be making the situation worse.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 7, 2010 11:09am
True. If he does trade it's going to either be for an established veteran or an up-n-coming young veteran that they feel they can mold.Non wrote: I can't see picking up a veteran QB just to have one.
Guys like Carr and Delhomme stink and would just be making the situation worse.
Have also been told, as the market thins, the Browns may take a look see at Terrell Owens on the cheap.
TigerNation10
Posts: 483
Mar 7, 2010 11:27am
I may be in the minority, but if T.O. can come cheap, I'm all for it.
Any more news on McNabb?
Any more news on McNabb?
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Mar 7, 2010 11:33am
Id take TO for cheap too. If he starts acting up we have a veteran leader in Brady Quinn to put him in his place.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 7, 2010 11:33am
Should know more on McNabb by days' end. I believe that Andy Reid wants this over and done with by today, one way or the other. Unless it's just posturing, I'm skeptical that McNabb is leaving Philly. The front office & fans want McNabb gone but Reid, who has the power, wants him to stay. Who do you think wins?TigerNation10 wrote: I may be in the minority, but if T.O. can come cheap, I'm all for it.
Any more news on McNabb?
Latest rumor via tweet.....Shaun Rogers to Buffalo for Donte Whitner AND Ashton Youboty. I imagine the Browns would have to sweeten the deal.
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spartan
Posts: 178
Mar 7, 2010 11:40am
tony pashos signed with the redskinsBR1986FB wrote: Conflicting reports have 49ers-OT- Tony Pashos signing with Washington but then NOT signing with Washington and headed to Cleveland. Updated reports have Pashos on his way here for a meeting.
http://www.kffl.com/player/5926/nfl
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 7, 2010 11:42am
Incorrect. He may still sign with them but reports came out immediately following KFFL's report refuting that. He's in Cleveland now.spartan wrote:tony pashos signed with the redskinsBR1986FB wrote: Conflicting reports have 49ers-OT- Tony Pashos signing with Washington but then NOT signing with Washington and headed to Cleveland. Updated reports have Pashos on his way here for a meeting.
http://www.kffl.com/player/5926/nfl
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 7, 2010 11:46am
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Mar 7, 2010 12:00pm
As always, Pluto is spot on.
Trading Rogers doesn't hurt this team as bad as some might think. Rubin filled in very well for Rogers after his injury. He is a solid, dependable nose tackle. And Rogers should bring good value via trade.
Trading Rogers doesn't hurt this team as bad as some might think. Rubin filled in very well for Rogers after his injury. He is a solid, dependable nose tackle. And Rogers should bring good value via trade.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Mar 7, 2010 1:02pm
Obviously, the Browns have some very specific needs -- but I can't say I'm surprised by the lack of activity by the team so far in free agency.
If you looked at the list of available UFA for this "season" it was pretty clear that pickings were very slim. You would have to overpay for what you were getting (look at what Detroit has done so far) and this regime isn't going to do that.
I do expect there to be a few pretty big trades yet to come -- including one for a QB.
If you looked at the list of available UFA for this "season" it was pretty clear that pickings were very slim. You would have to overpay for what you were getting (look at what Detroit has done so far) and this regime isn't going to do that.
I do expect there to be a few pretty big trades yet to come -- including one for a QB.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 7, 2010 1:15pm
ExactlyWriterbuckeye wrote: Obviously, the Browns have some very specific needs -- but I can't say I'm surprised by the lack of activity by the team so far in free agency.
If you looked at the list of available UFA for this "season" it was pretty clear that pickings were very slim. You would have to overpay for what you were getting (look at what Detroit has done so far) and this regime isn't going to do that.
I do expect there to be a few pretty big trades yet to come -- including one for a QB.
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miller45452003
Posts: 673
Mar 7, 2010 1:23pm
^^^^I would say there overpaying as well. Nate Burleson to Detroit for $25 mill was horrible, especially with 11 mill guaranteed. I am glad to be sitting back in the passenger seat just working the trade scenarios hard and preparing for the draft which is the obvious way to build a franchise.
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miller45452003
Posts: 673
Mar 7, 2010 1:30pm
If its anything more than Roger straight up, I would NOT do this. Youboty is a guy that may not even make our team although we could use his depth and Whitner is nothing spectatacular. I hope this is someone just in lala land making up these rumors. Also find it kinda odd both players are from Ohio State. Just because there from the area does not mean they belong in Cleveland ala TROY SMITH...no thanks! I would not trade him to Buffalo unless it involved someone along the lines of Terrence McGee.BR1986FB wrote:Should know more on McNabb by days' end. I believe that Andy Reid wants this over and done with by today, one way or the other. Unless it's just posturing, I'm skeptical that McNabb is leaving Philly. The front office & fans want McNabb gone but Reid, who has the power, wants him to stay. Who do you think wins?TigerNation10 wrote: I may be in the minority, but if T.O. can come cheap, I'm all for it.
Any more news on McNabb?
Latest rumor via tweet.....Shaun Rogers to Buffalo for Donte Whitner AND Ashton Youboty. I imagine the Browns would have to sweeten the deal.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 7, 2010 1:59pm
I'd love to see Troy Smith on this team, but I doubt we get him.
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Sonofanump
Mar 7, 2010 2:01pm
Under the photo of Rogers it states :"VIEW FULL SIZE", It might be a mistake to click on that.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 7, 2010 3:33pm
Not likely. Smith's agent has been hounding the Browns because he WANTS to play here but the Browns have no interest.sleeper wrote: I'd love to see Troy Smith on this team, but I doubt we get him.