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BR1986FB

Posts: 24,104

Aug 11, 2010 2:37pm

Interesting.....

SportsAndLady

Posts: 35,632

Aug 11, 2010 2:38pm

BR1986FB;448515 wrote:Interesting.....

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KR1245

Posts: 4,317

Aug 11, 2010 4:50pm

Whats the latest on D'Qwell?

hangonsloopy

Posts: 1,291

Aug 11, 2010 10:56pm

strained pectoral. Not the one he hurt last year. They are saying 4-8 weeks.

OneBuckeye

Posts: 5,888

Aug 14, 2010 2:28pm

I think there may be a pre season game tonight... where is the discussion?

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tribepronk41

Posts: 62

Aug 14, 2010 5:47pm

anywhere we I can watch this game tonight online for free??

GoChiefs

Posts: 16,754

Aug 14, 2010 6:09pm

tribepronk41;451159 wrote:anywhere we I can watch this game tonight online for free??

http://www.channelsurfing.net/

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fiver

Posts: 138

Aug 25, 2010 6:42pm

Posting this on the proper thread

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Could-the-Browns-cut-Colt-McCoy-?urn=nfl-265084

Art Modell

Posts: 2,338

Aug 25, 2010 7:28pm

Only in Cleveland.

From the Hills

Posts: 190

Aug 25, 2010 7:57pm

fiver;461698 wrote:Posting this on the proper thread

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Could-the-Browns-cut-Colt-McCoy-?urn=nfl-265084

I don't buy it. Chances are they will keep 3 qbs, would you really keep Ratliff over McCoy. The plan wasn't to play him this year anyhow. He will make the team.

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Aug 25, 2010 8:01pm

No way McCoy doesn't make the team. Stupid article trying to drum up views to the PD, pretty sad.

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BR1986FB

Posts: 24,104

Aug 26, 2010 7:50am

Commander of Awesome;461878 wrote:No way McCoy doesn't male the team. Stupid article trying to drum up views to the PD, pretty sad.

I'm pretty sure he'll be making the team but I'm also pretty sure that Holmgren/Heckert will be looking at available QB's in next years' draft too. Granted, he's (McCoy) played behind crappy 3rd team O-Linemen but even Chuckles McBallSack (Charlie Frye) didn't look THIS "deer in headlights" his rookie year.

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Aug 26, 2010 8:27am

BR1986FB;462222 wrote:I'm pretty sure he'll be making the team but I'm also pretty sure that Holmgren/Heckert will be looking at available QB's in next years' draft too. Granted, he's (McCoy) played behind crappy 3rd team O-Linemen but even Chuckles McBallSack (Charlie Frye) didn't look THIS "deer in headlights" his rookie year.

I agree, in fact I believe I recall Holmgren saying that it was his desire to draft a QB every yr, probably in the later rounds. I'm not a McCoy believer, I think Seneca Wallace might be his ceiling. I dont forsee him ever becoming "the franchise QB", without some improvements in his arm strength. However Brees and Tom Brady both were able to improve their arm strength (or arm speed by QB coaches) over their career so it can be done. Next year is looking to be a good crop of QBs, so perhaps we go that route. However, trying to judge what this current regime is going to do with limited track record to go off is difficult, esp before the season even begins.

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BR1986FB

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Aug 26, 2010 8:35am

Commander of Awesome;462237 wrote:I agree, in fact I believe I recall Holmgren saying that it was his desire to draft a QB every yr, probably in the later rounds. I'm not a McCoy believer, I think Seneca Wallace might be his ceiling. I dont forsee him ever becoming "the franchise QB", without some improvements in his arm strength. However Brees and Tom Brady both were able to improve their arm strength (or arm speed by QB coaches) over their career so it can be done. Next year is looking to be a good crop of QBs, so perhaps we go that route. However, trying to judge what this current regime is going to do with limited track record to go off is difficult, esp before the season even begins.

That has always been Holmgren's M.O.....draft a QB whether you need it or not and hope they strike gold in a later round.

I have heard a lot of people throwing out the name "Jake Locker" regarding the Browns but frankly I don't think the Browns will even be in a position to draft him. I don't think the Browns will be picking in the top 10 in 2011.

lhslep134

Posts: 9,774

Aug 26, 2010 8:47am

Commander of Awesome;462237 wrote:I agree, in fact I believe I recall Holmgren saying that it was his desire to draft a QB every yr, probably in the later rounds. I'm not a McCoy believer, I think Seneca Wallace might be his ceiling. I dont forsee him ever becoming "the franchise QB", without some improvements in his arm strength. However Brees and Tom Brady both were able to improve their arm strength (or arm speed by QB coaches) over their career so it can be done. Next year is looking to be a good crop of QBs, so perhaps we go that route. However, trying to judge what this current regime is going to do with limited track record to go off is difficult, esp before the season even begins.

I feel like Brees has always had pretty decent arm strength, it was just a misconception coming out of Purdue that he was too short and his arm was too weak.

hoops23

Posts: 15,696

Aug 26, 2010 9:31am

I honestly think Colt's arm strength is just fine. He's obviously looked a little shell shocked out there at times and I'm sure the weak protection from the 3rd string OL hasn't helped.

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Aug 26, 2010 9:35am

the weak 3rd string oline is going against the weak 3rd string dline of the worst team from last season. Not an excuse imo.

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BR1986FB

Posts: 24,104

Aug 26, 2010 9:46am

From what I've heard, McCoy has an NFL arm so that shouldn't be an issue. He needs to stop telegraphing his passes (staring down receivers).

To get a better read of what he can do, he needs time with the 1's. He hasn't merited that time but I think it's the only way that we are going to see whether he's worth a squirt of piss or not.

lhslep134

Posts: 9,774

Aug 26, 2010 9:46am

Commander of Awesome;462296 wrote:the weak 3rd string oline is going against the weak 3rd string dline of the worst team from last season. Not an excuse imo.

There's always going to be a larger number of capable d-linemen than o-linemen since there's so much technique. The guys on the 3rd string O-line are guys fighting for a roster spot that generally have technique that's questionable at best. Combine that with 290 LB d-linemen coming right at you, and it's definitely an advantage for third string defense than third string offense, IMO.

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BR1986FB

Posts: 24,104

Aug 26, 2010 9:53am

The guys on the 3rd string O-Line are going to be fighting for the right to say "would you like fries with that?", "would you prefer a Camry or an Accord?" or "welcome to Walmart" in about 3 weeks.

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Aug 26, 2010 9:55am

Eh I bet they could end up coaching for their respective college teams, or using their family science/general studies degrees to be a bus boy at to local bob evans.

grodt

Posts: 1,588

Aug 26, 2010 5:46pm

Has any one else seen that there is a chance that DA will be the Cardinals starter this year? Sounds like Leinart has sucked a huge one and since DA has more big play potential (ala 2007) he may get the nod. Man did they suffer a huge fall-off in QB talent when Warner retired.

royal_k

Posts: 4,423

Aug 26, 2010 6:00pm

DA is starting against the Bears.

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I drain 3's

Posts: 574

Aug 26, 2010 6:01pm

Just a couple quick articles

Browns won't release McCoy
http://football.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/18226/20100826/browns_wont_release_colt_mccoy/

Hardesty returns to practice, questionable for preseason game against the Lions
http://football.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/18232/20100826/hardesty_returns_to_practice/

newarkcatholicfan

Posts: 3,199

Aug 27, 2010 12:27am

Another losing season making it another good NFL year.