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BR1986FB

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Mar 11, 2010 8:49 AM
pkebker wrote: Just curious, How much do you think Holmgren is doing, and how much do you think it is Heckert. I've been under the impression that Holmgren is letting Heckert make the trade calls...
Not to skirt the question but it's a collaboration of sorts.

Heckert & Mangini work together evaluating players and if there's a division Holmgren breaks the tie. I'm sure that Holmgren had quite a bit of a say in the acquisition of Wallace where I'm sure Mangini had quite a bit of input in the acquisition of "blue collar, Mangini-like" players in Fujita & Pashos.

For as much as a many thought this marriage would be like oil & water (myself included), Heckert, Mangini & Holmgren seem to be doing very well together.
Mar 11, 2010 8:49am
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Mar 11, 2010 8:53 AM
BR1986FB wrote:
pkebker wrote: Just curious, How much do you think Holmgren is doing, and how much do you think it is Heckert. I've been under the impression that Holmgren is letting Heckert make the trade calls...
Not to skirt the question but it's a collaboration of sorts.

Heckert & Mangini work together evaluating players and if there's a division Holmgren breaks the tie. I'm sure that Holmgren had quite a bit of a say in the acquisition of Wallace where I'm sure Mangini had quite a bit of input in the acquisition of "blue collar, Mangini-like" players in Fujita & Pashos.

For as much as a many thought this marriage would be like oil & water (myself included), Heckert, Mangini & Holmgren seem to be doing very well together.
This will really be put to the test with the draft. If they can collaborate like it seems they are right now, this draft has the potential to truly right the ship once and for all.
Mar 11, 2010 8:53am
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BR1986FB

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Mar 11, 2010 9:29 AM
Drew Stanton's name continues to come up in connection with the Browns
Mar 11, 2010 9:29am
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miller45452003

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Mar 11, 2010 10:23 AM
^^^Is this where the BQ trade rumors to the Lions come from?
Mar 11, 2010 10:23am
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BR1986FB

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Mar 11, 2010 10:38 AM
Not really. Stanton's name just keeps surfacing.
Mar 11, 2010 10:38am
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Mar 11, 2010 11:01 AM
I'm not sure where/how Stanton would fit into the Browns' plans. I'm going to chalk it up as internet rumors for now.
Mar 11, 2010 11:01am
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Mar 11, 2010 11:33 AM
I would hope no trade with Carolina (involving Quinn) would happen until they get the QB situation finalized in some manner.

Having only Wallace and Ratliff would not make me confident going into the season.
Mar 11, 2010 11:33am
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buckeyes_woowee

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Mar 11, 2010 11:50 AM
Writerbuckeye wrote: I would hope no trade with Carolina (involving Quinn) would happen until they get the QB situation finalized in some manner.

Having only Wallace and Ratliff would not make me confident going into the season.
Having Quinn, Wallace and Ratliff would make you confident?
Mar 11, 2010 11:50am
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pkebker

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Mar 11, 2010 12:07 PM
Wallace is better than many are assuming. He is an improvement, no doubt, then what we have. I'm not saying he is the answer, but already, the QB position has been greatly improved. A trade with Quinn for any decent player would be a good trade...
Mar 11, 2010 12:07pm
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Mar 11, 2010 12:37 PM
buckeyes_woowee wrote:
Writerbuckeye wrote: I would hope no trade with Carolina (involving Quinn) would happen until they get the QB situation finalized in some manner.

Having only Wallace and Ratliff would not make me confident going into the season.
Having Quinn, Wallace and Ratliff would make you confident?
If they have shored up the OL and the defensive backfield a bit more then, yes, I'd feel okay.

Wallace and/or Quinn could "manage" a game that was more about short passing and running (West Coast).

In fact, if he isn't traded (I'm neutral on this issue), I'd be very curious to see if Quinn could run a version of the West Coast offense since his strength is having decent touch on the ball and checking down.
Mar 11, 2010 12:37pm
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Mar 11, 2010 12:41 PM
I don't think he releases the ball quick enough.

He's been indecisive but that could change with experience.
Mar 11, 2010 12:41pm
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buckeyes_woowee

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Mar 11, 2010 1:47 PM
I don't think he is accurate enough either
Mar 11, 2010 1:47pm
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big_hits24

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Mar 11, 2010 2:30 PM
What's the latest on TE Ben Watson? Did he visit cleveland and is he still high on their list?
Mar 11, 2010 2:30pm
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Mar 11, 2010 2:35 PM
Im ok with Delhomme. Tommy John's surgery take a bit to recover from and I think last year's performance (or lack thereof) was a result of coming back too soon. I think he'll be a good pick up for somebody and will be good for a couple more years.
Mar 11, 2010 2:35pm
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BR1986FB

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Mar 11, 2010 2:50 PM
big_hits24 wrote: What's the latest on TE Ben Watson? Did he visit cleveland and is he still high on their list?
He visited and there is supposedly still interest.
Mar 11, 2010 2:50pm
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big_hits24

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Mar 11, 2010 3:13 PM
^^Is he scheduled to visit with any teams you know of? Or nothing really being talked about? I thought he visited with the team yesterday but hadn't really heard how things went and what can be expected.
Mar 11, 2010 3:13pm
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Mar 11, 2010 3:18 PM
I think they should hire Aaron Goldhammer as a scout.
Mar 11, 2010 3:18pm
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ytownfootball

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Mar 11, 2010 3:32 PM
^^^Not a bad flyer prospect at TE^^^
Mar 11, 2010 3:32pm
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BR1986FB

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Mar 11, 2010 3:35 PM
Too bad that asshole Grossi had to spill the beans. Now EVERYONE will know about him. :)
Mar 11, 2010 3:35pm
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ytownfootball

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Mar 11, 2010 3:37 PM
I thought the same thing.lol, they had all the knowledge as the only scouts there and he just went and blew it :D
Mar 11, 2010 3:37pm
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big_hits24

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Mar 11, 2010 3:46 PM
Pretty impressive numbers...How good are his hands I wonder and if he can really be a true TE in the NFL? I saw that article moments before you posted in BR
Mar 11, 2010 3:46pm
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Mar 11, 2010 4:11 PM
After his visit today at Brownd headquarters. Jake Delhomme was on his way to take a physical for the Browns. I think that situation is almost a done deal. Raiders RB Justin Fargus was also in Cleveland today.
Mar 11, 2010 4:11pm
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miller45452003

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Mar 11, 2010 4:20 PM
september63 wrote: After his visit today at Brownd headquarters. Jake Delhomme was on his way to take a physical for the Brownd. I think that situation is almost a done deal. Raiders RB Justin Fargus was also in Cleveland today.
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WTF???????????????????
Mar 11, 2010 4:20pm