SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 29, 2015 11:09am
Disagree. Bucks proved last year they will turn it on when it counts, and they're already proving that this year (demolishing Michigan).Automatik;1766361 wrote:They won't make it, nor should they.
Top 4 teams need in the playoffs, if bama can't beat a bad Florida team, they shouldn't be in the final four.
OSU is definitely one of the top 4 teams. A loss against a top 5 team shouldn't keep them out.
But if it does, I wouldn't be upset. Sometimes you're just not going to make it in. It happens.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 29, 2015 11:14am
May just gave ND props for beating Pitt lol
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Nov 29, 2015 11:17am
Now I am reading a decent amount that UNC beating Clemson would catapult them into the top 4. Maybe Florida over Alabama is the only way OSU gets in. I'm prepared for Rose against Stanford.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 29, 2015 11:26am
We'll know more Tues....If UNC is 8 then they'll jump OSU....but I believe they'll be #10 and no way jump them.slingshot4ever;1766370 wrote:Now I am reading a decent amount that UNC beating Clemson would catapult them into the top 4. Maybe Florida over Alabama is the only way OSU gets in. I'm prepared for Rose against Stanford.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Nov 29, 2015 11:50am
Even if Clemson were to lose their conference championship they should be in as they are without question one of the 4 best teams in the country.
They would have far and away the best resume of the 1 loss teams, and should not be penalized for actually having made their conference championship game unlike some teams.
If we start rewarding teams for when they lose instead of who they beat we might as well blow up the whole thing because it is a sham.
They would have far and away the best resume of the 1 loss teams, and should not be penalized for actually having made their conference championship game unlike some teams.
If we start rewarding teams for when they lose instead of who they beat we might as well blow up the whole thing because it is a sham.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Nov 29, 2015 12:09pm
Would be really interesting. No way Stanford gets in over OSU though, two losses is two lossesIggyPride00;1766372 wrote:Even if Clemson were to lose their conference championship they should be in as they are without question one of the 4 best teams in the country.
They would have far and away the best resume of the 1 loss teams, and should not be penalized for actually having made their conference championship game unlike some teams.
If we start rewarding teams for when they lose instead of who they beat we might as well blow up the whole thing because it is a sham.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Nov 29, 2015 12:11pm
When you lose has always been factored into college football rankings. The committee is looking for teams who finish up strong. Clemson had a bad game yesterday against an awful South Carolina team. If Clemson were to lose next week, I don't see them getting in.IggyPride00;1766372 wrote:Even if Clemson were to lose their conference championship they should be in as they are without question one of the 4 best teams in the country.
They would have far and away the best resume of the 1 loss teams, and should not be penalized for actually having made their conference championship game unlike some teams.
If we start rewarding teams for when they lose instead of who they beat we might as well blow up the whole thing because it is a sham.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Nov 29, 2015 12:34pm
Mark Richt fired. Tom Herman needs to be the first person called.
And also I'm seeing sports writers on twitter saying it's a bad decision or unfortunate. They haven't won the SEC since 2005 and haven't even represented the East over the last 3 years when it has sucked. They've been snake bitten with Gurleys and Chubbs' injuries the last few years, but that happens in college football.
And also I'm seeing sports writers on twitter saying it's a bad decision or unfortunate. They haven't won the SEC since 2005 and haven't even represented the East over the last 3 years when it has sucked. They've been snake bitten with Gurleys and Chubbs' injuries the last few years, but that happens in college football.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 29, 2015 12:51pm
It would be pretty bad, unless they win the whole thing which I think they are certainly capable of it.Spock;1766357 wrote:I would love to see how bad haters would hate if OSU made it in
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 29, 2015 12:55pm
If you can't win the East, which is the worst division in CFB, then you have a problem. Seriously, would anyone bet against Indiana or Illinois winning the SEC East?Terry_Tate;1766377 wrote:Mark Richt fired. Tom Herman needs to be the first person called.
And also I'm seeing sports writers on twitter saying it's a bad decision or unfortunate. They haven't won the SEC since 2005 and haven't even represented the East over the last 3 years when it has sucked. They've been snake bitten with Gurleys and Chubbs' injuries the last few years, but that happens in college football.
Dr Winston O'Boogie
Posts: 1,799
Nov 29, 2015 5:00pm
Herman would be a great hire. However the is something about Georgia that tells me it is a hamstrung job. The program has underachieved since 1980 for all intents and purposes. I don't know why that is, but part of me thinks it has to do with location. That could be overcome. However I think Herman could step into a better job is he waits. Just my two cents.Al Bundy;1766374 wrote:When you lose has always been factored into college football rankings. The committee is looking for teams who finish up strong. Clemson had a bad game yesterday against an awful South Carolina team. If Clemson were to lose next week, I don't see them getting in.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Nov 29, 2015 5:48pm
Richt to Miami seems like the obvious move.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Nov 29, 2015 8:56pm
What? They lost last week and missed their chance guaranteeing a trip to the conference championship.SportsAndLady;1766368 wrote:Disagree. Bucks proved last year they will turn it on when it counts, and they're already proving that this year (demolishing Michigan).
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Nov 29, 2015 8:59pm
IMO, the system is too new to have a really confident feeling in what the committee will do if Clemson & 'Bama lose. I think if Clemson gets destroyed along with Alabama losing, OSU will be in. If the committee has to replace just one team next weekend and Stanford looks great, they could overtake OSU. Don't think UNC, regardless of what they do against Clemson, will jump into the top four, though.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 29, 2015 9:19pm
friendfromlowry;1766506 wrote:What? They lost last week and missed their chance guaranteeing a trip to the conference championship.
Yeah, last year means absolutely nothing.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 29, 2015 9:24pm
Just meant last year they turned it on around here, and I believe they would this year as well, if the committee puts them in the playoff.Automatik;1766510 wrote:Yeah, last year means absolutely nothing.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Nov 29, 2015 9:59pm
Two ESPN'ers who basically stalk the CFP committee say that Long has told them that they don't look into the future and speculate and that conference championships are important to them(they showed us that last year with the Big 12).
If this is the case...Oklahoma should be #1 this week. The only current conference champion in the nation.
If this is the case...Oklahoma should be #1 this week. The only current conference champion in the nation.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Nov 29, 2015 10:08pm
Too many bowls, not enough teams at .500 or better. Hope you are ready for bowls with teams at 5-7.
http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/121635/not-enough-six-win-teams-multiple-five-win-teams-needed-to-fill-bowlsOn Saturday, Kansas State (5-6) hosts West Virginia, Georgia State (5-6) visits Georgia Southern; and South Alabama (5-6) hosts Appalachian State. Any of those 5-6 teams that win will earn a bowl berth. The 5-6 teams that lose will create additional openings for more 5-7 bowl teams.
There could be as many as 17 teams with five wins in contention for getting a bowl berth. If the committee recommends selecting the teams based on best APRs, here are the top five-win teams based on the 2013-14 APR data, the most recent available, which will be used by the NCAA:
985 -- Nebraska (5-7)
976 -- Missouri (5-7)
976 -- Kansas State (5-6)
975 -- Minnesota (5-7)
975 -- San Jose State (5-7)
973 -- Illinois (5-7)
973 -- Rice (5-7)
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Nov 29, 2015 11:05pm
There are way too many bowls. I remember when 8-3 or 9-2 often had teams borderline for bowls. It used to be a reward for a good season.sportswizuhrd;1766521 wrote:Too many bowls, not enough teams at .500 or better. Hope you are ready for bowls with teams at 5-7.
http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/121635/not-enough-six-win-teams-multiple-five-win-teams-needed-to-fill-bowls
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Nov 30, 2015 12:47am
Maybe because I know football season is almost over, but I will watch any shitty football team play in a bowl. Obviously I'll watch the better teams if they are on, but if the only game on is Indiana state vs northern Kansas I'm fucking watching it.sportswizuhrd;1766521 wrote:Too many bowls, not enough teams at .500 or better. Hope you are ready for bowls with teams at 5-7.
http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/121635/not-enough-six-win-teams-multiple-five-win-teams-needed-to-fill-bowls
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Nov 30, 2015 9:45am
Totally agree. Who cares if bowl games USED to be a reward for a good season. Outside of 1 game in the BCS era, and 3 games now, bowl games don't mean anything anyways. So now, they are just a reward for the fans of college football to give them a few extra weeks of football before we're stuck in one of the most boring times of the sports calendar year.FatHobbit;1766536 wrote:Maybe because I know football season is almost over, but I will watch any shitty football team play in a bowl. Obviously I'll watch the better teams if they are on, but if the only game on is Indiana state vs northern Kansas I'm fucking watching it.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 30, 2015 9:48am
Back in my day a bowl game used to MEAN SOMETHING!
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Nov 30, 2015 9:48am
Bowl pools make every bowl game entertaining. Personally, I don't give a shit who wins unless I bet on them.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Nov 30, 2015 12:50pm
I believe they mean Conference Championship games are important, which hurts the Big 12.sportswizuhrd;1766519 wrote:Two ESPN'ers who basically stalk the CFP committee say that Long has told them that they don't look into the future and speculate and that conference championships are important to them(they showed us that last year with the Big 12).
If this is the case...Oklahoma should be #1 this week. The only current conference champion in the nation.
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Nov 30, 2015 1:05pm
That is not what they say, though. They say "conference championships" and not "conference championship games."iclfan2;1766584 wrote:I believe they mean Conference Championship games are important, which hurts the Big 12.
Source: http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/selection-committee-protocolPrinciples. The committee will select the teams using a process that distinguishes among otherwise comparable teams by considering:
- Conference championships won,
- Strength of schedule,
- Head-to-head competition,
- Comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory), and,
- Other relevant factors such as key injuries that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance.