Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 21, 2015 10:37pm
Ok....the only difference I see is one was during the play and 1 was several seconds after.
I have no problem with Mitchell being out as long as Eifort and his salary withheld those weeks.
I think Wallace's and Beckhams were worse.
Using your theory should Wallace only be fined $23,152?....I think it should be about $200,000 more than that.
Also, why was it that odd number? Mitchell makes more than that per game I assume?
I have no problem with Mitchell being out as long as Eifort and his salary withheld those weeks.
I think Wallace's and Beckhams were worse.
Using your theory should Wallace only be fined $23,152?....I think it should be about $200,000 more than that.
Also, why was it that odd number? Mitchell makes more than that per game I assume?
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Dec 21, 2015 10:43pm
I think the number was a percentage of the salary.Ironman92;1770897 wrote:Ok....the only difference I see is one was during the play and 1 was several seconds after.
I have no problem with Mitchell being out as long as Eifort and his salary withheld those weeks.
I think Wallace's and Beckhams were worse.
Using your theory should Wallace only be fined $23,152?....I think it should be about $200,000 more than that.
Also, why was it that odd number? Mitchell makes more than that per game I assume?
Odell's hit was after the play but it was a first offense for him. Mitchell had a history. Also Mitchell was making threats before the game.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 21, 2015 10:52pm
Odell had 2 other personal fouls,swung and missed and then came back to drill him. To me Mitchell would've dove and whiffed on Eifert, got up and then went back and did that it would be the same.superman;1770900 wrote:I think the number was a percentage of the salary.
Odell's hit was after the play but it was a first offense for him. Mitchell had a history. Also Mitchell was making threats before the game.
I do have no issue with any history adding to the punishment.
We both agree Mitchell should've gotten more....but I think Beckham and Wallace should get more than Mitchell.
The $23152 number is weird but Burfict was fined for 3 plays in that game and his total was $69456 so 3x.....maybe $23,152 per personal foul fine.....I don't know but IMO it's not nearly enough for anyone. It needs eliminated across the league.
Ironman92
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Dec 21, 2015 10:54pm
Beckham's past isn't perfectly clean. http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/13827893/odell-beckham-jr-new-york-giants-fined-actions-game-vs-buffalo-bills
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 21, 2015 11:32pm
Saints receiver just got destroyed right in the helmet.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Dec 22, 2015 9:33am
The whole "suspend the guy until the player he hurts is back" opens up a slippery slope that nobody would want.
What happens if you horse collar a guy and he shreds his knee? He never recovers. Should the guy who got the penalty also never play again? What's the difference between an illegal horse collar and a head shot? Both penalties, both on purpose, why discriminate?
The stuff in the Pittsburgh/Cincinnati and New York/Carolina games specifically were over the top. Both games had multiple altercations, fights and personal fouls. However, there's no fair way to police that stuff for the resulting injuries that happen. This is fucking football...guys get hit...guys get emotional and do things in the heat of the moment.
What happens if you horse collar a guy and he shreds his knee? He never recovers. Should the guy who got the penalty also never play again? What's the difference between an illegal horse collar and a head shot? Both penalties, both on purpose, why discriminate?
The stuff in the Pittsburgh/Cincinnati and New York/Carolina games specifically were over the top. Both games had multiple altercations, fights and personal fouls. However, there's no fair way to police that stuff for the resulting injuries that happen. This is fucking football...guys get hit...guys get emotional and do things in the heat of the moment.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 22, 2015 11:33am
Up to 4 games or something...there are waysAzubuike24;1770940 wrote:The whole "suspend the guy until the player he hurts is back" opens up a slippery slope that nobody would want.
What happens if you horse collar a guy and he shreds his knee? He never recovers. Should the guy who got the penalty also never play again? What's the difference between an illegal horse collar and a head shot? Both penalties, both on purpose, why discriminate?
The stuff in the Pittsburgh/Cincinnati and New York/Carolina games specifically were over the top. Both games had multiple altercations, fights and personal fouls. However, there's no fair way to police that stuff for the resulting injuries that happen. This is fucking football...guys get hit...guys get emotional and do things in the heat of the moment.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 22, 2015 11:38am
Any word on the steelers player? He def should be getting a suspension right along with OBJ.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 22, 2015 11:59am
He has a history of being an asshole too so I expect he gets more, but probably won't. I honestly can't believe the player came back into the game shortly thereafter. It was so violent.Commander of Awesome;1770963 wrote:Any word on the steelers player? He def should be getting a suspension right along with OBJ.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Dec 22, 2015 9:20pm
I'm almost positive Cincinnati will end up with a home playoff game vs Pittsburgh where they'll lose some snoozer of a game like 17-6. The kind where neither team looks great but the Bengals offense is just so miserable you keep hoping they finally get something going, but never do.Azubuike24;1770680 wrote:For the Bengals, it's a nightmare scenario. A Denver loss is likely. They are going to win the North, but that puts them at the 3-seed, and the likely 6-seed is Pittsburgh. That would set up a rematch with Pittsburgh, and Andy Dalton trying to come back after just 3 weeks in the playoffs.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 22, 2015 10:32pm
Not sure Pittsburgh's offense is capable of putting just 17 points up.friendfromlowry;1771057 wrote:I'm almost positive Cincinnati will end up with a home playoff game vs Pittsburgh where they'll lose some snoozer of a game like 17-6. The kind where neither team looks great but the Bengals offense is just so miserable you keep hoping they finally get something going, but never do.
If it's Pittsburgh @ Cinci...that's not good for Bengals fans
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Dec 22, 2015 10:52pm
It'd just be one of those things where Pittsburgh has an off day and if Cincinnati played well at all, they'd win. But they don't.SportsAndLady;1771069 wrote:Not sure Pittsburgh's offense is capable of putting just 17 points up.
If it's Pittsburgh @ Cinci...that's not good for Bengals fans
/sob story'd
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 23, 2015 11:45am
Steelers only had 3 make Pro Bowl and no one on defense (not surprisingly but Heyward has had a very good season)
Figured only AB and Ben would make it. Nice to have a lineman make it after so many shitty years of only having a good center. DeCastro has been a pleasant surprise.
AFC QB position is currently quite weak
Figured only AB and Ben would make it. Nice to have a lineman make it after so many shitty years of only having a good center. DeCastro has been a pleasant surprise.
AFC QB position is currently quite weak
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Dec 23, 2015 12:31pm
Eifert likely out for the season. Definitely out Monday.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 23, 2015 12:44pm
Really? Don't remember where (probably one of the fails at ESPN) said he could probably play this week if it were a playoff game.Azubuike24;1771113 wrote:Eifert likely out for the season. Definitely out Monday.
Hopefully he'll be at 100% by playoffs. They need him to win in the playoffs, may not help either of these 2 final weeks.
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Dec 23, 2015 12:51pm
Offensive line needs to put a bounty out on Bitchell.Azubuike24;1771113 wrote:Eifert likely out for the season. Definitely out Monday.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 24, 2015 11:08pm
Holding call on a FG attempt on Khalil Mack? Weak IMO...next play TD
Yuck
Yuck
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Dec 24, 2015 11:10pm
5 yard penalties should never, ever result in a first down; unless, of course, it's 5 or less to gain.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 24, 2015 11:18pm
What a clusterfuck of penalties made FG, take back, score TD, review no TD, penalty miss FG
Glad this game doesn't affect playoffs
Glad this game doesn't affect playoffs
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 24, 2015 11:19pm
Agree 100%....what Mack did earned a 4th and 18 conversion? Uh nowildcats20;1771276 wrote:5 yard penalties should never, ever result in a first down; unless, of course, it's 5 or less to gain.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 24, 2015 11:36pm
Not sure I've seen an all-star professional athlete act on the field like Philip Rivers
Ironman92
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Dec 24, 2015 11:38pm
Fan ran onto the field and was yelling something at Charles Woodson and Woodson put his hands together and did an "O" sign I think???
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 24, 2015 11:45pm
This game is a big clusterfuck
Ironman92
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Dec 25, 2015 12:06am
Wow....a big play without a penalty
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 25, 2015 12:07am
Should be taunting on Te'o....I've seen that called multiple times this season. 24 penalties called but not that one.