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Nov 12, 2015 9:45 PM
Are these the color infused uniforms? Pretty bright and gross
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Nov 12, 2015 9:51 PM
Ugh....just saw Stacy's leg go very bad on that return at the half. Not good
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Nov 12, 2015 10:59 PM
Sick of hearing about the Cowboys and their POS players.
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Nov 12, 2015 11:06 PM
Good to see the Rex Ryan Bills in the playoffs. Not
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Nov 12, 2015 11:28 PM
I'd root for Philip Rivers leading the Browns before I'd root for Rex Ryan
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Nov 14, 2015 11:55 AM
Ironman92;1762837 wrote:I'd root for Philip Rivers leading the Browns before I'd root for Rex Ryan
lol'd

Who are the MVP candidates thus far this season?

Brady, Newton and Palmer have to be in the discussion, but anyone else?
Nov 14, 2015 11:55am
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Nov 14, 2015 11:59 AM
I think it's Brady's to lose.
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Nov 14, 2015 12:17 PM
Commander of Awesome;1763149 wrote:lol'd

Who are the MVP candidates thus far this season?

Brady, Newton and Palmer have to be in the discussion, but anyone else?
Dalton
Nov 14, 2015 12:17pm
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Nov 14, 2015 12:28 PM
Tom Brady and then all the way down is second place, who is irrelevant
Nov 14, 2015 12:28pm
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Nov 14, 2015 1:03 PM
Brady



Newton

Dalton, right now would get many many many top 5 votes. He has been good but his weapons and oline are huge huge factors.
Nov 14, 2015 1:03pm
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Nov 14, 2015 1:09 PM
Dalton is doing what he should have been doing the last 4 years. Not getting in the way of the rest of his team.
Nov 14, 2015 1:09pm
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Nov 14, 2015 1:24 PM
like_that;1763182 wrote:Dalton is doing what he should have been doing the last 4 years. Not getting in the way of the rest of his team.
Am I ridiculous and stupid to think him getting booed mercilessly by a packed stadium in his town during a CELEBRITY SOFTBALL game during the MLB all-star break put a big chip on his shoulder for this season and that's a factor to why he's more focused and better?

I feel the same about Brady and deflate gate.
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Nov 14, 2015 2:47 PM
Ironman92;1763188 wrote:Am I ridiculous and stupid to think him getting booed mercilessly by a packed stadium in his town during a CELEBRITY SOFTBALL game during the MLB all-star break put a big chip on his shoulder for this season and that's a factor to why he's more focused and better?
He should have seen the writing on the wall long before that.
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Nov 14, 2015 3:02 PM
Ironman92;1763188 wrote:Am I ridiculous and stupid to think him getting booed mercilessly by a packed stadium in his town during a CELEBRITY SOFTBALL game during the MLB all-star break put a big chip on his shoulder for this season and that's a factor to why he's more focused and better?

I feel the same about Brady and deflate gate.
I think it has more to do with everyone being healthy and the line protecting Andy.
Nov 14, 2015 3:02pm
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Nov 14, 2015 3:02 PM
friendfromlowry;1763211 wrote:He should have seen the writing on the wall long before that.
Agree completely....but it was such a memorable moment. I felt horrible for him. I think a little bit of that is in the back of his head.

I've been wrong before though...
Nov 14, 2015 3:02pm
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Nov 14, 2015 4:52 PM
It's kind of funny how people are slowly starting to discredit Dalton, still, and are saying he's just not messing up and letting the team around him perform.

Yet when the team around him was decimated (last year), he got all the blame.

When this season is over, Dalton will hold numerous records for accomplishments for a QB in his first 5 seasons. Somehow, he will still be labeled as a shitty player. It's weird.
Nov 14, 2015 4:52pm
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Nov 14, 2015 5:12 PM
Azubuike24;1763233 wrote:It's kind of funny how people are slowly starting to discredit Dalton, still, and are saying he's just not messing up and letting the team around him perform.

Yet when the team around him was decimated (last year), he got all the blame.

When this season is over, Dalton will hold numerous records for accomplishments for a QB in his first 5 seasons. Somehow, he will still be labeled as a shitty player. It's weird.
Who is saying shitty?
Nov 14, 2015 5:12pm
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Nov 14, 2015 8:25 PM
Obviously shitty is an exaggeration. A way of saying, he gets little credit.
Nov 14, 2015 8:25pm
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Nov 14, 2015 11:31 PM
Azubuike24;1763295 wrote:Obviously shitty is an exaggeration. A way of saying, he gets little credit.
If he goes 5,000 yards, 40 TD and 5 int and loses first playoff game with a sub par performance....shitty may happen
Nov 14, 2015 11:31pm
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Nov 15, 2015 12:02 AM
Ironman92;1763345 wrote:If he goes 5,000 yards, 40 TD and 5 int and loses first playoff game with a sub par performance....shitty may happen
You could argue winning one may not be sufficient. They might get a bye so it's a moot point, but winning one game then getting stomped in the second round is underachieving, IMO.
Nov 15, 2015 12:02am
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Nov 15, 2015 12:05 AM
friendfromlowry;1763354 wrote:You could argue winning one may not be sufficient. They might get a bye so it's a moot point, but winning one game then getting stomped in the second round is underachieving, IMO.
Agree
Nov 15, 2015 12:05am
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Nov 15, 2015 1:28 AM
Azubuike24;1763233 wrote:It's kind of funny how people are slowly starting to discredit Dalton, still, and are saying he's just not messing up and letting the team around him perform.

Yet when the team around him was decimated (last year), he got all the blame.

When this season is over, Dalton will hold numerous records for accomplishments for a QB in his first 5 seasons. Somehow, he will still be labeled as a shitty player. It's weird.
4 yrs of being mediocre to shitty, and now 8 game stretch of great play. I don't blame ppl for not over reacting and jumping on the bandwagon immediately. He's played well this season, but not ready to annoit him best QB in first 5 yrs after 4 yrs of subpar play.

As for his records, that's just the time of the NFL. It's like comparing salaries, of course any big name FA is going to be paid more than the best player of the 1980s, doesn't mean they're better players.
Nov 15, 2015 1:28am
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Nov 15, 2015 9:37 AM
Thing is though...he came in as a 2nd rounder...started day 1, has led playoff teams every year. I just think expectations jumped very fast for him BECAUSE they got to the playoffs so quickly. A QB who slowly got built up and took 3-4 years to even make the playoffs wouldn't get the same criticism.

He's actually been mediocre to good his entire career, at least 80% of it. It's just the bad 20% usually came in the playoff games or the spotlight games where he got some attention. He's got a near 88 overall QBR for his career.

...and yes, he can win league MVP this year but if he chokes in his first playoff game, the arguments will remain.
Nov 15, 2015 9:37am
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Nov 15, 2015 9:39 AM
Commander of Awesome;1763369 wrote:4 yrs of being mediocre to shitty, and now 8 game stretch of great play. I don't blame ppl for not over reacting and jumping on the bandwagon immediately. He's played well this season, but not ready to annoit him best QB in first 5 yrs after 4 yrs of subpar play.

As for his records, that's just the time of the NFL. It's like comparing salaries, of course any big name FA is going to be paid more than the best player of the 1980s, doesn't mean they're better players.
He's got more wins in his first 5 years as any QB...ever. He's got more road wins in his first 5 years...ever. That's a pretty big sample size of QB's over a long period of time. It's not like he achieved those stats by just being in the league.
Nov 15, 2015 9:39am
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Nov 15, 2015 10:07 AM
friendfromlowry;1763354 wrote:You could argue winning one may not be sufficient. They might get a bye so it's a moot point, but winning one game then getting stomped in the second round is underachieving, IMO.
Agreed. In the absurd Tom Brady-Peyton Manning debate the Brady supporters point to the times the Colts lost in the second round after getting a bye and say that's a bad result. I don't think that would be any different if it happened with the Bengals.
Nov 15, 2015 10:07am