Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 27, 2015 5:37pm
Yeah, I'll wait on a reputable source. Never heard of that fan site before. According to OBR, no offer was made as of yesterday.Dr. KnOiTaLL;1700439 wrote:According to a report from NFL Draft Diamonds, Cleveland Browns tight end Jordan Cameron has turned down an offer worth $6-7 million a year.
http://cle.247sports.com/Bolt/REPORT-TE-Cameron-turns-down-Browns-offer-35092418
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 27, 2015 5:38pm
This. Lovie being lovie. He's not a good HC, and I expect him to be canned after this season.Heretic;1700438 wrote:Well, in fairness, that was mainly Lovie Smith and his fear of playing younger, less-tested players when he can simply throw out a crappy veteran player.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 27, 2015 5:44pm
I'd rather Cameron walk. More $ to spend on more valuable positions and an extra pick (provided them make the qualifying offer).
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jan 27, 2015 5:49pm
I dont know, TE can be a very important position, and they have $$$$ to burn. Find it hard to believe though that he would turn down that sort of deal coming off of his concussion issues.Laley23;1700453 wrote:I'd rather Cameron walk. More $ to spend on more valuable positions and an extra pick (provided them make the qualifying offer).
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 27, 2015 6:24pm
It's important, and there are plenty of TEs who can do what Cameron can do...and stay healthy...and are cheaper.thavoice;1700456 wrote:I dont know, TE can be a very important position, and they have $$$$ to burn. Find it hard to believe though that he would turn down that sort of deal coming off of his concussion issues.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 27, 2015 6:27pm
Yep. Scout the NCAA Tournament and find someone to draft late/Sign as FA and develop.Laley23;1700461 wrote:It's important, and there are plenty of TEs who can do what Cameron can do...and stay healthy...and are cheaper.
Sign an decent TE on a 1/2 year deal. Plenty of them out there.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jan 27, 2015 6:40pm
I guess the big if is if he stays healthy. Unfortunately he has struggled to do that. A healthy Cameron is a top 5 TE in the league imo. Not many TEs can make big plays like he does.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 27, 2015 8:19pm
While he may be top 5 when healthy, he is closer to the guys behind him then those ahead. I think he is very replaceable.like_that;1700464 wrote:I guess the big if is if he stays healthy. Unfortunately he has struggled to do that. A healthy Cameron is a top 5 TE in the league imo. Not many TEs can make big plays like he does.
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se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 27, 2015 9:23pm
Looks like Duron Carter will sign with the Colts.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/27/reports-colts-wr-duron-carter-close-to-contract/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/27/reports-colts-wr-duron-carter-close-to-contract/
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 27, 2015 10:07pm
Hope he continues what he started at osu.se-alum;1700506 wrote:Looks like Duron Carter will sign with the Colts.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/27/reports-colts-wr-duron-carter-close-to-contract/
Commander of Awesome
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Jan 27, 2015 11:39pm
http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-1/Phil-Taylor-says-he-wants-to-retire-as-a-Brown/b4b50a7a-ca44-4a3a-8e56-fc3509c067c0
Fine by me, but fuck stay healthy.
Fine by me, but fuck stay healthy.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jan 28, 2015 11:19am
One thing about big DL....they seem to drop off pretty quickly. The constant pounding they take is brutal to their bodies. May just be my perception but it just seems that position usually sees less of a general, slow decline but more of a fast drop.Commander of Awesome;1700550 wrote:http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-1/Phil-Taylor-says-he-wants-to-retire-as-a-Brown/b4b50a7a-ca44-4a3a-8e56-fc3509c067c0
Fine by me, but fuck stay healthy.
Commander of Awesome
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Jan 28, 2015 11:30am
http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Positions-Current-Browns-Used-to-Play/653d9c30-70f1-400c-a459-dde585ec3564
I wanna Joe GOAThomas kick, and Skrine wrestle.
I wanna Joe GOAThomas kick, and Skrine wrestle.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 28, 2015 4:03pm
Not a bad mock, but I'd take Strong in Round 2 instead of Grayson.
http://walterfootball.com/draft2015.php
http://walterfootball.com/draft2015.php
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 28, 2015 4:33pm
Agreed, Grayson is a bum. Not the biggest Strong fan, but wouldn't QQ. Rather Go bennet there and shore up the dline with a top shelf talent than get a WR who I dont think has elite/special talent.se-alum;1700746 wrote:Not a bad mock, but I'd take Strong in Round 2 instead of Grayson.
http://walterfootball.com/draft2015.php
I'd also consider Devin Fuchess with this point. LOL at Grayson.
Also, I like the RT as a priority, but I dont see that happening. Also said "plans to move schwatrz inside" which is wild speculation. I don't see him moving to guard successfully. Could see Hundley, Devin Smith, or Coates there as well.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jan 28, 2015 4:41pm
If we can get Funchess I'm cool with letting Cameron walk.Commander of Awesome;1700764 wrote:
I'd also consider Devin Fuchess with this point..
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 28, 2015 4:46pm
Prob is FA is before draft. I 'd like to keep Cameron bc our offense weapons are terrible. However if he's turning down the deal reported (still very skeptical of that, and be pissed if browns offered that to him tbh he could very easily not play a single regular season down due to concussions) then let him go.lhslep134;1700772 wrote:If we can get Funchess I'm cool with letting Cameron walk.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jan 28, 2015 6:43pm
Right. My take is based on him reportedly turning down the $6/7/yr deal. I agree it's not worth paying that much money to a guy that injury prone.
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wkfan
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Jan 29, 2015 9:04am
Do not want Funchess. Absolutely no heart in the player.lhslep134;1700772 wrote:If we can get Funchess I'm cool with letting Cameron walk.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 29, 2015 9:30am
Not to mention suspect hands. We don't need another UM product that can't catch.wkfan;1700965 wrote:Do not want Funchess. Absolutely no heart in the player.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jan 29, 2015 11:17am
Has there been an refutable source saying he turned that deal down?
Dr. KnOiTaLL
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Jan 29, 2015 11:31am
You mean reputable? I think the first source was refutable, but wouldn't say I've heard a reputable source yet. :RpS_flapper:thavoice;1701053 wrote:Has there been an refutable source saying he turned that deal down?
bases_loaded
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Jan 29, 2015 11:35am
se-alum;1700746 wrote:Not a bad mock, but I'd take Strong in Round 2 instead of Grayson.
http://walterfootball.com/draft2015.php
He has the Patriots taking 3 Buckeye's in the first 4 rounds.
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wkfan
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Jan 29, 2015 12:06pm
Interesting that he has Devin Smith taken before Sammy Coates....bases_loaded;1701060 wrote:He has the Patriots taking 3 Buckeye's in the first 4 rounds.
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wkfan
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Jan 29, 2015 12:21pm
Not to mention that Joey Bosa is his #1 selection and Cardale Jones is #3 in the 2016 draft.