BR1986FB;1747906 wrote:Just my personal belief. I think that defensive minded coaches like Pettine/Rex Ryan have a certain arrogance where they don't value the QB position as much as other organizations and feel that they can be highly competitive with this "run the ball/win with defense" bullshit.

iclfan2;1748028 wrote:Haha Trent Richardson released again. Still can't believe we got a 1 for him.


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sleeper;1748036 wrote:I think he just never improved once he got to the NFL. He doesn't have the work ethic needed to be an elite back in the NFL and tried to rely solely on his college level talent to succeed.

He's also the perfect example of why you don't spend a high draft pick on a RB.

lhslep134;1747931 wrote:I would be completely miserable going into each season with a "championship" or bust attitude as a fan of a non-contender. There are acceptable outcomes other than "win a championship." LOL @ BR believing otherwise.

BR1986FB;1748072 wrote:Who said anything about "each season" being "championship or bust?"

BR1986FB;1747928 wrote: For me, it's championship or bust.

SportsAndLady;1748074 wrote:There is definitely a middle ground to "championship or bust"

That middle ground isn't some win number though. I think we'll all just know if the season was successful at the end of the season.

If the season is exciting, some defensive guys step up as studs, and a QB emerges as someone for the future, I don't care if we have 2 wins or 10.

Edit: should also add that our coaching staff doesn't make boneheaded in-game decisions like every other coach we've had recently.

lhslep134;1748075 wrote:You did asshole





Also, I don't give a shit about you getting your panties into a bunch because I picked apart what you said. Don't want me to pick apart what you say? Then stop making stupid fucking posts about how winning is championship or bust. If you want to keep thinking along those insane lines, take your crying to the IQQY thread.

BR1986FB;1747856 wrote:Pretty obvious the front office doesn't GAF about the QB position so they will have to win in other ways..

lhslep134;1747900 wrote:Not giving a fuck and understanding your limitations are two very distinct concepts. Not surprised you blurred the line.

BR1986FB;1747906 wrote:Just my personal belief. I think that defensive minded coaches like Pettine/Rex Ryan have a certain arrogance where they don't value the QB position as much as other organizations and feel that they can be highly competitive with this "run the ball/win with defense" bullshit.

lhslep134;1747908 wrote:If you consider back to back AFC title games with Mark Sanchez at QB to not be a highly competitive form of "run the ball/win with defense bullshit", then continue to whine like a little baby because that's what you sound like right now.

BR1986FB;1747913 wrote:If I thought the Browns had a defense/running game like those Jets teams I might agree with you.

lhslep134;1747921 wrote:Keep moving those goalposts back BR. First it was "arrogance to think they can win with that bullshit." And now you're saying "well if the Browns were as good as those teams who won with that bullshit I might agree".

:rolleyes:

BR1986FB;1747928 wrote:We obviously have different definitions of "win." For me, it's championship or bust. For you, it must be "win some games."

BR1986FB;1748081 wrote:. No need to take everything so literally, Johnnie Cochran.

SportsAndLady;1748074 wrote:There is definitely a middle ground to "championship or bust"

That middle ground isn't some win number though. I think we'll all just know if the season was successful at the end of the season.

If the season is exciting, some defensive guys step up as studs, and a QB emerges as someone for the future, I don't care if we have 2 wins or 10.

Edit: should also add that our coaching staff doesn't make boneheaded in-game decisions like every other coach we've had recently.

BR1986FB;1748081 wrote:And here we go with Mr Anal Retentive/Attorney Boy and his laundry list of quotes.

In case you forgot, I'm the one who has been saying "3-13, Haslam blows it up & Mack leaves in free agency" since their season ended last year so the expectations of "championship or bust" for THIS year are a bit contradictory to what I've been saying. No need to take everything so literally, Johnnie Cochran.

like_that;1748105 wrote:Based on your expectations, what would you consider a successful season or at least a season that would satisfy you?

BR1986FB;1748119 wrote:That won't happen this year. My expectations for this year are very low. Until they get that QB, I'm expecting very little. Unfortunately, they are probably going to have a miserable season to get that QB.

Love what I'm hearing about Pryor's "I'll do whatever it takes to help this squad" attitude. Sounds like he's been begging Tabor to play special teams. Heard they have been toying around with the idea of making him a protector on punts. That opens up a ton of possibilities (direct snap) for gadget plays that the opposition would have to respect.

BR1986FB;1748119 wrote:That won't happen this year. My expectations for this year are very low. Until they get that QB, I'm expecting very little. Unfortunately, they are probably going to have a miserable season to get that QB.

Love what I'm hearing about Pryor's "I'll do whatever it takes to help this squad" attitude. Sounds like he's been begging Tabor to play special teams. Heard they have been toying around with the idea of making him a protector on punts. That opens up a ton of possibilities (direct snap) for gadget plays that the opposition would have to respect.

like_that;1748124 wrote:That doesn't really answer the question. What needs to happen this year where you will be ok with the outcome?

like_that;1748124 wrote:That doesn't really answer the question. What needs to happen this year where you will be ok with the outcome?

BR1986FB;1748132 wrote:The Cavs tanked for Lebron. Don't care if I have to dive on that grenade of a two win season as a fan as long as they get the QB. Do NOT want to see a 7 win season and Matt Cassel or Sanchez as their QB next year, continuing the cycle of QB purgatory.