SportsAndLady;1744415 wrote:You give no reason as to why Gilbert and Mingo sucks. You just say they suck because they were drafted in the top 10 and haven't been an all-pro yet.

Lumping them in with weeden just further strengthens Like That's point that you are just butthurt you were wrong about weeden and are looking for a target to "get us back".

like_that;1744407 wrote:Where do you see that?

BR1986FB;1744417 wrote:They suck because top 10 picks are supposed to make an IMPACT. These clowns won't even be on the field consistently. You don't use top 10 picks hoping they will be "contributing role players."

And no, the only reason I brought up Weeden was because you guys are a bunch of hypocrites. Jump on one player calling him a "bust" right out of the gate while another, who was drafted higher, can't even get on the field and is being passed by 4th rounders and (possibly) UDFA's on the depth chart. Gilbert should be embarrassed. Hopefully he is.

SportsAndLady;1744421 wrote:They're supposed to make an impact, yes. A) there's still time. And B) but if they aren't an impact player, they can still be valuable to the team. If you're valuable to the team, you don't suck. If you're Brandon weeden, you suck. If you're Mingo , who isn't an impact player but can still make plays and help in other areas like pass coverage, you don't suck. You accept them for what they are: busts for where they were drafted but still quality players on our team. The problem we have with your Mingo and Gilbert opinions lies in the fact that you only view them as all pros or busts. And anything but the former means they suck. It's flawed logic.

BR1986FB;1744419 wrote:http://www.dawgpoundnation.com/2015/08/05/browns-training-camp-observations-day-6/

Commander of Awesome;1744426 wrote:Remember when he was saying Hartline would be cut?

LOL
"Hartline has been excellent these past two days at camp. He even caught this absurd behind the back pass today:"

Commander of Awesome;1744450 wrote:Love what I'm reading about Shelton and X Cooper.

http://www.scout.com/nfl/browns/story/1570278-browns-believe-rush-defense-will-improve

Browns other D-line draftee Xavier Cooper. “The thing about him is he’s a football junkie. For instance, I was eating a snack with him the other night at 9 o’clock and almost everybody was going home. I went home. He told me he was going home. (Defensive coordinator) Jimmy O’Neil walked by the meeting room around 9:30 p.m. ,and he was in there watching film."

shook_17;1744477 wrote:'ll agree to disagree. Mingo sucks and is a bust for where he was drafted. The dude can't stop the run and can't stay healthy.

shook_17;1744477 wrote:'ll agree to disagree. Mingo sucks and is a bust for where he was drafted. The dude can't stop the run and can't stay healthy.

SportsAndLady;1744480 wrote:Oh look another weeden supporter.

BR1986FB;1744483 wrote:And how fucking DUMB is this post? Saying Mingo sucks = Weeden supporter? Got it. :rolleyes:

You guys crack me up. Bunch of apologists. "Well....he doesn't perform up to the level of where he was drafted but at least he's a contributor!"

THAT'S WHAT'S GOTTEN THIS FRANCHISE INTO THE SHITTY STATE THAT IT'S BEEN IN FOR YEARS.

Faine, Winslow, Edwards, Wimbley, Quinn, Richardson, Weeden, Mingo, Gilbert (likely) and Manziel (likely).....Miss after miss after miss....the only "keepers" they've had since 2003 are Thomas, Mack & Haden. I'm "meh" on Phil Taylor.

But it's "ok" to keep on missing on impact players as long as they can be "contributors!"

SportsAndLady;1744485 wrote: it's no surprise you've turned to calling okay players shitty and saying the fans thinking that's okay is why we've been so bad. LOL.

BR1986FB;1744486 wrote:That's exactly what you're doing, Orange & Brown apologist. Mingo & Gilbert aren't "ok" players. In fact, when their rookie contracts are up, they will be lucky to still be in the league. Gilbert MIGHT have a future as a returner if he wasn't such a damn diva and would play special teams ("I don't do punts. I won't return them.")

SportsAndLady;1744490 wrote:Yeah, you're reaching iggy levels. Keep it up. Pretty soon you and him can jerk each other off on his thread while you both continue to not be Browns fans.

shook_17;1744498 wrote:I was a weeden supporter. Big fucking whoop. I'm sure you all gobbled on Richardsons dick when we drafted him. Mingo has been a huge disappointment for where he was drafted.

shook_17;1744498 wrote:I was a weeden supporter. Big fucking whoop. I'm sure you all gobbled on Richardsons dick when we drafted him. Mingo has been a huge disappointment for where he was drafted.

shook_17;1744498 wrote:I was a weeden supporter. Big fucking whoop. I'm sure you all gobbled on Richardsons dick when we drafted him. Mingo has been a huge disappointment for where he was drafted.