GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Nov 23, 2014 10:29pm
^ Yikes.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 23, 2014 10:32pm
Yeah....might hurt WC chances for whoever is second/third in the division but getting KC and SD and you control some tie breakers with teams you would guess to be also in the WC race.GOONx19;1677581 wrote:^ Yikes.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 23, 2014 10:34pm
This doesn't bode well for the Browns....have Denver and Raiders at home and KC and SD on the road....I'd prefer the opposite.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 23, 2014 10:35pm
Good point. But NFC West is brutal. Hopefully the Browns/Cardinals game will be in AZIronman92;1677583 wrote:Yeah....might hurt WC chances for whoever is second/third in the division but getting KC and SD and you control some tie breakers with teams you would guess to be also in the WC race.
Edit: Reading comprehension fail on my part. Damn, wish it was in AZ.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 23, 2014 10:37pm
Natural rivals indeedlhslep134;1677585 wrote:Good point. But NFC West is brutal. Hopefully the Browns/Cardinals game will be in AZ
Edit: I92 just saw your post. Browns in AZ!! I'll definitely be there.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 23, 2014 10:38pm
Arizona at Clevelandlhslep134;1677585 wrote:Good point. But NFC West is brutal. Hopefully the Browns/Cardinals game will be in AZ
Edit: I92 just saw your post. Browns in AZ!! I'll definitely be there.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 23, 2014 10:39pm
Yeah reading comprehension fail for me. Edited my postIronman92;1677588 wrote:Arizona at Cleveland
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Nov 23, 2014 10:49pm
I will say that now that Gordon is back and is still the stud he has always been it will be electric next season when the Browns are playing night games and Johnny hits Gordon on a broken play bomb for a TD the first time.
The stadium will come unglued, and true Browns fans will finally be able to enjoy themselves knowing the future is here instead of what we are stuck with now which is biding out time with a mediocre QB we all know will be gone.
The stadium will come unglued, and true Browns fans will finally be able to enjoy themselves knowing the future is here instead of what we are stuck with now which is biding out time with a mediocre QB we all know will be gone.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 23, 2014 11:04pm
How would you know how true Browns fans will feel? You're not a Cleveland fanIggyPride00;1677598 wrote:true Browns fans will finally be able to enjoy themselves
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Nov 23, 2014 11:24pm
You keep saying that, but as the season has gone on all of you who called me a troll have had to face the reality that I was right the entire time. What many of you thought of as "trolling" was me just telling a truth too many of you were too blind/unwilling to see.lhslep134;1677602 wrote:How would you know how true Browns fans will feel? You're not a Cleveland fan
I don't hold grudges though and am more than willing to accept apologies from those of you who now probably realize just how wrong you were.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Nov 23, 2014 11:59pm
I think Johnny will be the qb next year, but why would it be more enjoyable to have played all year and be 3-8 now?IggyPride00;1677608 wrote:You keep saying that, but as the season has gone on all of you who called me a troll have had to face the reality that I was right the entire time. What many of you thought of as "trolling" was me just telling a truth too many of you were too blind/unwilling to see.
I don't hold grudges though and am more than willing to accept apologies from those of you who now probably realize just how wrong you were.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Nov 24, 2014 1:06am
So....you play the guy with the stronger arm, MUCH more accurate arm, the ability to run for 75 yards plus per game, and you will lose 4 more games....got it. Is there a sale going on regarding dumb pill you want to share?Al Bundy;1677630 wrote:I think Johnny will be the qb next year, but why would it be more enjoyable to have played all year and be 3-8 now?
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Nov 24, 2014 2:00am
Your boy doesn't understand an NFL playbook. I hope he develops into a good NFL qb, but he didn't put in the work over the summer to learn the offense.Footwedge;1677636 wrote:So....you play the guy with the stronger arm, MUCH more accurate arm, the ability to run for 75 yards plus per game, and you will lose 4 more games....got it. Is there a sale going on regarding dumb pill you want to share?
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Nov 24, 2014 6:08am
Footwedge;1677567 wrote:...
Unlike you, I like Kojak as a coach. ....
...then like him for choosing the QB that wouldn't take Shanahan's playbook down to one page.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Nov 24, 2014 7:58am
So not a single QB in the NFL is averaging more than 52 rush yards per game and now Manziel will get 75+ per game? I know you have trouble with simple math, but you don't really believe he is the best scrambler in the NFL by far do you?Footwedge;1677636 wrote:So....you play the guy with the stronger arm, MUCH more accurate arm, the ability to run for 75 yards plus per game, and you will lose 4 more games....got it. Is there a sale going on regarding dumb pill you want to share?
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 24, 2014 8:06am
He's not going to go for 75 yards per game.jmog;1677654 wrote:So not a single QB in the NFL is averaging more than 52 rush yards per game and now Manziel will get 75+ per game? I know you have trouble with simple math, but you don't really believe he is the best scrambler in the NFL by far do you?
My frustrations with Hoyer, for the most part, is that he shrivels up once he gets in the red zone. I'm fine with him between the 20's but when they need a TD inside the 20, he falls short. This is where I'd like to see them put together some kind of package for JFF on a shorter field. I think his threat to run, in these situations, would open things up for the offense. Just so tired of seeing Hoyer shit his pants when they get close and have to settle for FG's. That's going to come back to bite them at some point.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 24, 2014 8:11am
It already has.BR1986FB;1677658 wrote:He's not going to go for 75 yards per game.
My frustrations with Hoyer, for the most part, is that he shrivels up once he gets in the red zone. I'm fine with him between the 20's but when they need a TD inside the 20, he falls short. This is where I'd like to see them put together some kind of package for JFF on a shorter field. I think his threat to run, in these situations, would open things up for the offense. Just so tired of seeing Hoyer shit his pants when they get close and have to settle for FG's. That's going to come back to bite them at some point.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Nov 24, 2014 8:11am
I don't disagree that Hoyer sucked the last 2 weeks, but I just like to point out Failwedge's stupidity sometimes.
If they lose that game I wouldn't have been surprised to see a QB change, but doubt it happens now.
If they lose that game I wouldn't have been surprised to see a QB change, but doubt it happens now.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 24, 2014 8:13am
Oh, I know but I mean when it counts. I could see him "Derek Anderson'ing" the season, at some point, in one of these coming games. Still think they will finish 8-8 or 9-7, just short of the playoffs.like_that;1677659 wrote:It already has.
rrfan
Posts: 1,922
Nov 24, 2014 8:44am
Man some people have a lot more confidence in Johnny Football than I do. I don't know what he will end up in the NFL but to say he is the savior off of what??? Also, not many Heisman winners (especially QB's pan out in the NFL)
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Nov 24, 2014 8:48am
How do you know that he doesn't't understand the playbook? Guess what? You don't. He's been with the team a long time now Dufus. You want to talk about his wonderlic score?Al Bundy;1677640 wrote:Your boy doesn't understand an NFL playbook. I hope he develops into a good NFL qb, but he didn't put in the work over the summer to learn the offense.
Keep apologizing for Hoyer. You're becoming a rare breed here in Cleveland.
Coach Sam R was on Kylie and Boom this morning. And even Sam, a notorious Hoyer nut squeezer was saying that a change should be discussed.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 24, 2014 8:50am
rrfan;1677669 wrote:Man some people have a lot more confidence in Johnny Football than I do. I don't know what he will end up in the NFL but to say he is the savior off of what??? Also, not many Heisman winners (especially QB's pan out in the NFL)
I get what you're saying but I don't hold much stock in the Heisman argument.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Nov 24, 2014 8:51am
How many 19 year old Heisman winners have failed in the NFL? The answer is none. Another pseudofan football fan that never watched the kid play at A&M. Let's keep throwing out one of the worst quarterbacks in the league instead.rrfan;1677669 wrote:Man some people have a lot more confidence in Johnny Football than I do. I don't know what he will end up in the NFL but to say he is the savior off of what??? Also, not many Heisman winners (especially QB's pan out in the NFL)
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Nov 24, 2014 8:54am
Why don't you bump your thread asking me to STFU smog? This town has had it up to here with your boy. Your boy has sucked the whole year. Why don't you woman up and admit you are wrong for once in your life?jmog;1677660 wrote:I don't disagree that Hoyer sucked the last 2 weeks, but I just like to point out Failwedge's stupidity sometimes.
If they lose that game I wouldn't have been surprised to see a QB change, but doubt it happens now.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Nov 24, 2014 8:55am
The red zone...the blue zone...the yellow zone....he's been equally bad no matter where he is on the field.BR1986FB;1677658 wrote:He's not going to go for 75 yards per game.
My frustrations with Hoyer, for the most part, is that he shrivels up once he gets in the red zone. I'm fine with him between the 20's but when they need a TD inside the 20, he falls short. This is where I'd like to see them put together some kind of package for JFF on a shorter field. I think his threat to run, in these situations, would open things up for the offense. Just so tired of seeing Hoyer shit his pants when they get close and have to settle for FG's. That's going to come back to bite them at some point.