Anyone catch that last night? I saw bits and pieces and will watch the rest tonight and will try to find the whole thing from last night.

Kinda cool stuff, but still not right for him to be talking about it. The SEALs are supposed to be the Silent Warriors and I know what he and the other shooter are not looked upon too kindly for doing this.

Taped it. Can't wait to watch it.

I have mixed feelings. I get the whole 'silent warrior' and 'not supposed to talk about it' / 'don't give away the trade secrets'... but at the same time, this guy is a war hero/icon and it sounds like he's not being treated as such. So... I kinda find myself stuck in the middle of who's right with all of this.

Scarlet_Buckeye;1673772 wrote:Taped it. Can't wait to watch it.

I have mixed feelings. I get the whole 'silent warrior' and 'not supposed to talk about it' / 'don't give away the trade secrets'... but at the same time, this guy is a war hero/icon and it sounds like he's not being treated as such. So... I kinda find myself stuck in the middle of who's right with all of this.

I have mixed feelings as well, to a point. I think it is wrong, but then I buy the books, watch the movies, and watch the specials so I guess I am a hypocrite about it. Part of it is the Navy's fault for putting the SEALs out there. No one used to know much, if anything, about them. To boost interest and recruits to try it they started to show things like a discovery special of the BUD/s (Basic Underwater Demolitions training/SEALs that was popular. They put themselves out there to get more people interested because 85% of those who start the training dont finish. (My brother's class started with like 140 and 19 made it through the first shot). Then everything started to snowball and it became the cool thing to do and talk about.
Of my brother's 4 deployments in 5 years, I knew where he was once. He isnt a big fan of all of this coming out and I dont think it is a jealousy thing. It is just a vast majority of them take that Silent Warrior very seriously.

As for this guy not getting taken care of.........From what I read he got out after 16 years and is getting whatever that gets everyone. If he stayed 4 more he would get the full boat from what I understand.


The beginning of the special on Tuesday was some from that BUD/s series and other training aspects. All good, good stuff. I will watch tonite, even though I shouldnt, but damn it is interesting shit.

No mixed feelings here. He didn't kill Bin Laden, his team did. That is understood when you sign up, he is acting without honor.

queencitybuckeye;1673781 wrote:No mixed feelings here. He didn't kill Bin Laden, his team did. That is understood when you sign up, he is acting without honor.

Bingo. There was a lot of effort that went into the events that led to him pulling the trigger. He's disrespecting everyone else involved by claiming individual credit.

queencitybuckeye;1673781 wrote:No mixed feelings here. He didn't kill Bin Laden, his team did. That is understood when you sign up, he is acting without honor.

He did bring that up, that it could have been any one of those guys, and it just happened to be him that got the chance.

Fuck that silence stuff.

My tax dollars paid for that mission, they should have it on YouTube.

thavoice;1673683 wrote:Anyone catch that last night? I saw bits and pieces and will watch the rest tonight and will try to find the whole thing from last night.

Kinda cool stuff, but still not right for him to be talking about it. The SEALs are supposed to be the Silent Warriors and I know what he and the other shooter are not looked upon too kindly for doing this.

He really wanted his free meal on Veterans day.

Finally got around to watching these 2 episodes last night. Say what you will, but I thought it was very good. I enjoyed seeing the 'inside perspective' on how it all went down. One of the more fascinating parts I thought was the description of how & why the one Blackhawk Chinook went down & crashed. Evidently when they had practiced, they had practiced around a model/set-up where the walls were a chain-linked fence, instead of cinderblocks (or whatever). Evidently the cinderblocks created a heat-storm and caused the helicopter to lose control one it entered the premise. I thought this was a fascinating detail, whether true or not. Also, it baffled me how these guys tested EVERYTHING and had ALL this detail and a pre-plotted environment for when they tested, yet they decided to use a chain-linked fence instead of an actual wall like they could clearly see from the satellite images?! Why go thru all that level of detail and trouble, but yet diverge away from probably the most obvious piece of detail?!?! Sounded like the pilots that were flying the two Blackhawk Chinooks were highly intelligent and had a ton of history flying.

USA! USA! USA!

Scarlet_Buckeye;1681578 wrote:Finally got around to watching these 2 episodes last night. Say what you will, but I thought it was very good. I enjoyed seeing the 'inside perspective' on how it all went down. One of the more fascinating parts I thought was the description of how & why the one Blackhawk Chinook went down & crashed. Evidently when they had practiced, they had practiced around a model/set-up where the walls were a chain-linked fence, instead of cinderblocks (or whatever). Evidently the cinderblocks created a heat-storm and caused the helicopter to lose control one it entered the premise. I thought this was a fascinating detail, whether true or not. Also, it baffled me how these guys tested EVERYTHING and had ALL this detail and a pre-plotted environment for when they tested, yet they decided to use a chain-linked fence instead of an actual wall like they could clearly see from the satellite images?! Why go thru all that level of detail and trouble, but yet diverge away from probably the most obvious piece of detail?!?! Sounded like the pilots that were flying the two Blackhawk Chinooks were highly intelligent and had a ton of history flying.

USA! USA! USA!

The Nightstalkers are the best and that is why they fly around the SpecOps community.
Yeah, woulda made sense to go with the wall but hey, nothing is perfect right! Those special helo's (not Chinooks) had very little fly time and experience. I dont know, possible that is something unique to them about the issue they had, no idea.

They do go through extensive detail for many of their missions. Train, train, and train more and that is one of the reasons why they are highly successful.

thavoice;1681591 wrote:The Nightstalkers are the best and that is why they fly around the SpecOps community.
Yeah, woulda made sense to go with the wall but hey, nothing is perfect right! Those special helo's (not Chinooks) had very little fly time and experience. I dont know, possible that is something unique to them about the issue they had, no idea.

They do go through extensive detail for many of their missions. Train, train, and train more and that is one of the reasons why they are highly successful.

You're right. helos, not chinooks. My bad.

Was he a vampire?